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  • obama our lord
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-24-08
    • 562

    #1
    Obama Continues To Set Records For Incompetence
    There are growing indications that the Obama administration is melting down, unraveling and falling apart. The clearest indication is Barack Obama and his treasury secretary failing to come up with a plan to fix the bank/credit crisis. He is proposing solutions for every social problem ever identified by liberal Democrats, but doesn’t seem to be dealing with what should be his No. 1 priority. The bank fix is supposed to be announced by Secretary of the Treasury, Timothy Geithner, during this week.

    Nero fiddled while Rome burned, but the early days of the Obama administration will be remembered for his picking NCAA basketball tournament winners, appearing on “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno” and making fun of special needs children — while the American economy is burning.

    If the public fully understood President Obama and the Obama administration, there would be endless calls for his impeachment. Of course, the U.S. Constitution does not make incompetence, radicalism, socialism, the abandonment of American values and world-class lies and hypocrisy impeachable offenses. So all of these disillusioned Americans will have to satisfy themselves with calling for his resignation. Mr. Obama has done the impossible — proven he is a worse president than even his vice president, Joe Biden, would be.
    During the election, this column stressed then-Sen. Obama was a world-class phony, hypocrite, liar and a few other choice descriptions. Then we added incompetence to our long and growing list. I’m afraid my opinion has not only been vindicated since the election, but more and more pundits are finally taking the same tack.

    Consider the charge of incompetence. Dick Morris now says our president is not only a socialist, but also an incompetent socialist. Howard Fineman, of Newsweek, one of the bastions of Obamania, now says the establishment now thinks Obama isn’t up to the job. This is of special significance as it suggests even people at Newsweek, almost a campaign adjunct of the Obama headquarters, are finally seeing the light. You’ll remember Newsweek was being called Obamaweek and had a picture of Mr. Obama on front-page cover after cover. It treated him as a Messiah, not an inexperienced, untested, unvetted, radical with a parade of questionable associates and all kinds of unknowns in his biography.

    On March 10, Mr. Fineman wrote, “But in ways both large and small, what’s left of the American establishment is taking his measure and, with surprising swiftness, they are finding him lacking.”
    Mr. Fineman cataloged a long list of criticism coming from the establishment. Here is some of that criticism:

    • “The president gave up the moral high ground on spending not so much with the “stim” [stimulus law] but the $400 billion supplemental spending bill, larded as it was with 9,000 earmarks.”
    Mr. Fineman is a bit too kind. First what he calls the stim is also loaded with pork and involved him breaking a whole series of his campaign promises. Mr. Obama not only gave up the moral high ground, but also showed his most important promises are broken and broken in a hurry. Why should anyone trust him again? He showed he was not a new kind of politician, but one just as bad or worse than the old kind, what you might expect from someone who rises from the sewer and slime that is the Chicago Democratic machine. All the perfume of pretty speeches will not ride Mr. Obama’s breaking of campaign promise after campaign promise in record speed.

    • “The failure to call for genuine sacrifice on the part of all Americans, despite the rhetorical claim that everyone would have to ‘give up’ something.”

    This is just typical Obama, with rhetoric never matching reality. He says one thing (I’ll be bipartisan) and does the opposite (hyper-partisan ship led by Dead Fish Rahm Emanuel, his chief of staff, who earned that title when he sent a dead fish to a political adversary).

    • “A willingness to give too much leeway to Congress to handle crucial details, from the stim to the vague promise to ‘reform’ medical care without stating what costs could be cut.”

    As usual, Mr. Fineman and Newsweek are slowly catching on, but are still soft-pedaling Mr. Obama’s fundamental failures. For example, on the stimulus bill, he turned the whole thing over to those out-of-control liberals in Congress, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi and Majority Leader Harry Reid. This was not “willingness to give too much leeway.” This was total abdication of his responsibility to craft the first major piece of legislation of his administration and perhaps one of the most important.

    Our presidents do not turn over the responsibility of drafting the most important legislation of their term to Congress — except for Obama. He is not paying attention to basics and seems more interested in flying around the country to give speeches in front of cheering audiences and participating in ceremonies. Even a basketball coach at Duke had to tell him to fix the economy before he worries about his NCAA basketball brackets.

    After all, at this writing, he still has not come up with the final proposal for fixing the banking/credit crisis and his Treasury Department, the key spot in government at this moment, is in total disarray. Yet he has time to fly out to Los Angeles to be interviewed by comic Jay Leno and come up with a presentation for ESPN on his basketball picks. As one Congressman put it, it’s fitting he’s on Leno at this time, as the previous weeks have been like a comedy show.

    • “A treasury secretary who has been ridiculed on ‘Saturday Night Live’ and compared to Doogie Howser, M.D., Barney Fife and Macaulay Culkin in ‘Home Alone’ — and those are the nice ones.”
    Here again, the criticism is devastating, but all too kind. This was, perhaps, his most important appointment at a time he claimed we were in our worst crisis since the great depression and he comes up with a total incompetent and tax-cheat.

    The man who is supposed to inspire confidence in the business community and the rest of America is inspiring exactly the opposite. As Rep. Connie Mack, R-Fla., pointed out, everything this man has done has failed (even before he was appointed, as he was involved in the bailout as head of the Federal Reserve of New York) and everyone has lost confidence in him. He is considered a joke on Wall Street where he is referred to as Tiny Tim.

    Mr. Fineman still thinks Mr. Obama has the support of the American people, but warns he better be careful “that the gathering judgment of the Bigs doesn’t trickle down to the rest of us.” It will trickle down and it would do so a lot faster if the mainstream media wasn’t running interference for him.

    If that doesn’t show you the drift of how Mr. Obama is being perceived as incompetent, even Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., one of the most liberal members of Congress, has started criticizing him for not knowing what is going on with the bonuses. And she is one of the most liberal members of Congress. Of the AIG bonuses, she said, “Maybe the president is not up to speed …” This bonus scandal is a major issue according to Mr. Obama, yet he doesn’t know about what’s going on in his own administration.

    The evidence is stacking up even if it always doesn’t get into mainstream media reporting. We’ve already seen the parade of high-level appointments that turned out to be tax cheats or to be carrying other disqualifying baggage (such as being under investigation for corruption a la Gov. Bill Richardson or virtually being an agent for China and Saudi Arabia a la Charles Freeman. This inability to get first-rate appointments is best symbolized at Treasury, where it appears an incompetent has appointed another incompetent, and a tax cheat at that, to head the IRS. And don’t forget he still doesn’t have even one of the 17 top political Treasury appointments lined up. That’s no wonder. Perhaps as Groucho Marx said in another context, anyone who would accept an appointment to serve under Mr. Geithner isn’t fit to be in government.

    There are already calls for his resignation. It is clear no one has confidence in him. Rep. Mack is at the head of the line for those calling for his resignation and that line is growing. Mr. Geithner was involved in the AIG retention bonuses almost from the beginning in his capacity as head of the New York Federal Reserve, that the Obama administration is now condemning. This suggests high levels of incompetence on the part of the Secretary of the Treasury, the President and his staff.

    The level of hypocrisy here is beyond unbearable. The right to the bonuses was in the bonus bill engineered by the White House. The stimulus package permitted the bonuses at the request of the Secretary of Treasury himself. It is also clear the Secretary of the Treasury knew about the bonuses last year in his capacity as head of the Federal Reserve of New York. The bonuses have Mr. Obama written all over them, but he complains loudly about them as do the rest of his top lieutenants. This, in one grand story, shows Mr. Obama and his team are incompetent liars, hypocrites of the first order, and phony as a $3 bill.

    The latest twist in the AIG bonus fiasco comes with the discovery that 13 of the companies owe about $220 million in federal taxes. This came out in hearings before Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga. Now to try to cover-up their mistakes in legislation and leadership, the Democrats in Congress are trying to pass legislation to subject the bonuses to a 90 percent federal income tax. Of course, this kind of tax provision may be an unconstitutional bill of attainder, prohibited by Article 1, section 9, paragraph 3 of the U.S. Constitution.
    It is a form of legislative punishment directed at one person or a small group. Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., has already condemned the bill as unconstitutional. David Boies, the famed attorney that represented Al Gore in the election case before the U.S. Supreme Court, disagrees but says the matter could have been handled by a conventional lawsuit for violation of fiduciary duties.

    The whole flap about the bonuses is a diversion from much larger issues. But it does serve to reinforce some important lessons. When you rush a bill and pass it without reading it (as was also the case with the stimulus bill and the 90 percent tax bill), you are courting disaster. It is clear those who passed the stimulus bill and advocated it, including the President, didn’t bother to read it and that’s why a provision permitting the bonuses became law.

    Bankers have criticized this punitive tax as another move that will hurt America’s position as a leader in the financial world. One Wall Street executive said, “There are three big industries where the U.S. has global leadership: financial services, media and technology. Introducing this 90 percent tax is like taking one of those industries out the back and shooting it.”

    If Congress wants to use the taxing power to punish, it ought to start by a 90 percent tax on all those who voted for the stimulus package. Then they should vote a 90 percent tax on people like Rep. Barney Frank,D-Mass., and Sen. Chris Dodd,D-Conn., for defending Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac and resisting efforts of reform that might have avoided the great financial crisis. And they should put a 90 percent tax on the big recipients of campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie. That would include Sen. Dodd and President Obama at the top of the list.

    There is another disgraceful aspect of the AIG bonus fiasco. Congress passed the new tax provision despite its likely unconstitutionality. What’s worse, this kind of behavior is designed to impair a contract entered into legally by AIG and even sanctioned by Congressional legislation. At a time when there is already a loss of confidence in the financial system, the last thing you want to do is shake confidence further by putting into doubt the validity of contracts. And to further rattle the system, warnings are going out to banks to watch their compensation arrangements. Again, at a time like this, we should not start to paralyze management by all kinds of new warnings and regulations.

    But the most important recent development involves President Obama’s proposal to have veterans wounded in combat pay with their own health insurance for their own medical care received at VA facilities. Anyone with even one-half of a non-functioning brain would know this proposal would never fly and it would be rejected almost universally by Congress, veterans’ groups and the public. When a president even proposes this kind of a dagger-in-the-back of battle-wounded veterans, the proposal should have a P.S. reading “I’m incompetent as demonstrated by this asinine proposal.”
    Yet, Mr. Obama and his people were so incompetent as to propose this betrayal of our veterans. He not only proposed it, but also kept pushing it. For example, he had a meeting last Monday, with the national commander of the American Legion, who said, after the meeting, the President “intended to move forward” with the proposal. Finally, on Wednesday, his press secretary announced, “The president has instructed that its consideration be dropped.”
    The outrage at the proposal should have been easily predicted. For example, here are some of the comments found in published reports:

    • Eleven veterans’ organizations, in a letter to the president, wrote the proposal is “a total abrogation of our government’s moral and legal responsibility” to treat service-connected medical problems.

    • An Amvets spokesman said the proposal “flew in the face of the government’s covenant to care for all service-connected needs of our veterans.”

    • A Congressman said, “Our budget cannot be balanced on the backs of our nation’s combat-wounded heroes.”

    As far as I’m concerned, this proposal, backed personally and advocated personally by Mr. Obama, shows the incompetence of the White House from Mr. Obama on down.

    And we had another demonstration of that on the “Tonight Show with Jay Leno” on Thursday, when in discussing his bowling score, President Obama said his 129 had been “like the Special Olympics or something.” This was interpreted as a disparagement of the kids who take part in the Special Olympics. Later, his press secretary apologized for the insult, telling reporters the president “made an offhand remark making fun of his own bowling that was in no way intended to disparage the Special Olympics.” He also called Special Olympics Chairman Tim Shriver to apologize for his comment, even before it aired.

    Everyone can make a stupid mistake, but this one is especially instructive: Now you know why he has to be on teleprompter whenever possible. That’s because, with all due respect to his supporters who think he is the smartest man on the planet, when he is off the teleprompter he is as gaffe-prone as Vice President Joe Biden. That led to a cartoonist putting Mr. Obama in bed with his wife and his teleprompter, with the caption of Mrs. Obama saying the president should put his teleprompter away and go to bed.
    Incidentally, if he is really so brilliant why can’t he talk without a teleprompter? When criticized for taking time off from the White House to be on the Jay Leno show he tried to defend his trip to California by saying critics are wrong who say that “I can handle that [appearance on Leno show] and the economy at the same time.”
    I’m afraid, Mr. President, any observer who is not afflicted with Obamamania, will conclude you can’t handle either one of those, together or separately. And he knows little about presidential history, so he doesn’t know that even competent presidents have trouble handling more than one major issue at a time.

    Perhaps the most frightening aspect of the Obama administration is its willingness to pass any law and utilize any procedure even if it seems to violate our most important Democratic values and our usual governmental processes. For example, the Democrats are backing the card check bill, officially called the Employee Free Choice Act, which for all intents and purposes abandons the secret ballot in union election.

    They are also flirting the Fairness Doctrine to kill conservative talk radio. And now they are considering the reconciliation process for passing such legislation as health-care reform. That would essentially freeze the Democrats out of the legislative process and severely limit debate. Former Gov. Mike Huckabee described the reconciliation route as “very dangerous.” This all suggests the Obama administration has lost its fundamental bearings and is willing to put political power ahead of its principles.

    Beware when an apparent incompetent radical, both inexperienced and untested, starts to implement the greatest governmental transformation in history within his first two months in office. But you need not wait for the results. Just observe what is going on now.
    This is especially disturbing, as it is coming from a president whose background and record are little known and understood. As Judicial Watch has pointed out, “No president in modern times has received as little scrutiny on matters of ethics and corruption as Barack Obama. … But because of our dogged tenacity in asking ‘Just who is Barack Obama?’ his ethical lapses and links to possible corruption are still very much in play.”

    Too many questions remain unanswered and what we know by itself is very bad enough.

    Americans better be prepared to fight the Obama proposals if we want America to look like America four years hence, or for that matter, if we want America even to survive.
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  • obama our lord
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-24-08
    • 562

    #2
    Did you see Hussein the Incompetent on 60 Minutes? I swear he was stoned to the gills!
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    • obama our lord
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-24-08
      • 562

      #3
      And Bush Was Supposed to be an Idiot....

      We would like to think that this is a joke. Sadly, the French media is reporting as true that Barack Obama sent a letter to the President of France pledging support and friendship. His actual words were
      “I am certain that we will be able to work together, in the coming four years, in a spirit of peace and friendship to build a safer world.”
      There’s just one problem: he sent it to the wrong guy. That’s right. Barack Obama sent the letter to the former President of France, not the present President.


      And Nicholas Sarkozy is not amused.*


      As my wife said, we no longer have to worry that Obama is the anti-Christ — he’s too incompetent. But let’s still withhold judgment on the teleprompter.


      *Let’s say that Barack Obama knew he was communicating with the former President of France. He still hacked off the present President who has a lot of bad blood with the old guy. Burning bridges with an ally? I thought that’s what he accused Bush of doing.
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      • obama our lord
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 12-24-08
        • 562

        #4
        Now, Even the Lefties Can't Deny Obama's Incompetence

        Wow, President Obama must be doing a historically bad job if the New York Times editorial page is writing about how bad of a President he is:
        The leading liberal voices of the New York Times editorial pages all criticized—and, in some cases, clobbered—President Obama on Sunday for his handling of the economy and national security.

        It's not unusual for Barack Obama to take a little friendly fire from the Times. But it's perhaps unprecedented for him to get hit on the same day by columnists Frank Rich, Thomas Friedman and Maureen Dowd—and in the paper's lead editorial. Their critique punctuated a weekend that started with a widely circulated blog post by Paul Krugman that said the president’s yet to be announced bank rescue plan would almost certainly fail.

        The sentiment, coming just two months after the president was sworn in, reflects elite opinion in the Washington-New York corridor that Obama is increasingly overwhelmed, and not fully appreciative of the building tsunami of populist outrage.
        And with the last sentence, Politico's Johnathan Martin may be making the understatement of the year. Read the lead editorial, and the editorials by Friedman, Rich, and Dowd for yourself to see how far reaching their criticisms are.

        While I am glad to see that some of the most outspoken, out there voices on the left are finally seeing the error of their ways, I think they might need to be reminded of why we are where we are. Obama is still their guy. They cheerleaded for him throughout 2008, glossed over his nearly blank record and his ideological shortcomings, and heaped scorn upon John McCain for having the audacity to challenge Obama's Audacity of Hope......and we see where that has gotten us. (And that speaks nothing of Obama's recent gaffe-filled statements and his complete inability to say "hello" without the use of a teleprompter).

        The problem with the New York Times crowd now realizing 60 days into his administration that Barack Obama makes a terrible, incompetent President is the fact that their realization comes a long, LONG time after the rest of the country reached that conclusion. Better late than never, I suppose.

        But what really scares the rest of us is the fact that Obama still has 46 more months in the job before the adults get an opportunity to fix the damage....
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        • Shortstop
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 01-02-09
          • 27281

          #5
          I didn't vote for Obama.
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          • obama our lord
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-24-08
            • 562

            #6
            President To Bankrupt US

            As Democrats prepared to unleash a massive public relations blitz to reassure wary voters Barack Obama’s budget is good for the nation, the man Mr. Obama previously picked to head the Commerce Department told CNN the budget would bankrupt the nation.

            “The practical implications of this is bankruptcy for the United States,” U.S. Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., said of the Obama administration’s recently released budget. “There’s no other way around it. If we maintain the proposals that are in this budget over the 10-year period that this budget covers, this country will go bankrupt. People will not buy our debt, our dollar will become devalued. It is a very severe situation.”

            By the time Mr. Gregg had made his prediction, the dollar had dropped to its lowest standing against the six major currencies in close to a quarter of a century.

            The budget the Obama administration is proposing comes with a $3.6-trillion price tag and would live deficit of more than $1 trillion for 2010. The budget is expected to create a staggering $9.3 trillion deficit over the course of a decade.


            Critics claim the budget is jam packed with wasteful spending and controversial projects that will do more to deter economic growth than encourage it.

            “The cap and trade tax and other energy taxes will drive up both electricity and gasoline prices for families and for businesses,” said Gov. Haley Barbour, R-Miss., during the weekly radio GOP address to the nation.

            “And while Wall Street gets trillions to bail them out, small businesses will get stuck with not only income tax increases but also enormous cost increases for energy: for electricity and gasoline. Families will get clobbered, too.”

            The Mississippi governor, who some suspect may be eying a long-shot run at the White House in 2012, questioned the wisdom of such a budget, especially following the record spending that has taken place in Washington since Mr. Obama took the oath of office.

            “This budget blowout comes on top of the debt for the $787-billion Obama stimulus package, the $410-billion omnibus appropriations bill passed by Congress this month, the $300 billion the Federal Reserve said this week it would spend to buy U.S. government bonds, and the $750 billion the Fed announced just Wednesday it would spend to buy mortgage-backed securities,” Mr. Barbour said.

            “Trillions and trillions in new spending mean record tax increases and record government debt.”

            Democrats, however, spent much of the weekend gearing up for a gruesome budget battle, as voters are beginning to express concerns over the government’s spending spree. Less than a majority of voters, 44 percent, hold a positive view of Mr. Obama’s budget, while 45 percent view it in an unfavorable fashion, according to a poll released by Rasmussen Reports. Twelve percent are unsure.

            When asked if they felt the budget would help the economy, 37 percent responded they thought the budget would hurt the fragile U.S. economy. Forty-three percent said the budget would help the nation.

            To counter a growing populist opposition to the budget, Democrats mounted a massive grassroots campaign over the weekend that resulted in meetings in roughly 1,200 locations across the country. The purpose was to help Mr. Obama pass his major policy initiatives, starting with the budget.

            In a video message to supporters, the president urged supporters to “head out on Saturday” and make efforts to stay involved. Many view the program, dubbed “Organizing America,” as Mr. Obama’s attempt to get a jump-start on the 2012 election.

            Democrats charged with defending the massive budget, however, have also taken a proactive approach and are trying to refocus attention away from the spending itself and more on to what is the spending is being spent for.

            “I am more impressed with the fact that Obama is looking for a better educated and a healthy — a stronger workforce going into a new green economy, that this has to show that America can get off the ground with the deficit and move to where we were under the Clinton administration, drawing a strong surplus,” said U.S. Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y. on Fox News Sunday.

            “The only way for us to get out of this is to change our way of living in this country, and that’s the direction in which the Obama budget is going, and I strongly support it.”

            Republicans disagree and point to Congressional Budget Office numbers showing the budget could hurt the economy, as evidence cuts must be made to the Obama budget.

            Arguing Mr. Obama will have to make substantial budget cuts, U.S. Sen. Richard Shelby, R-Ala., predicted, “We’re on a — on the fast road to financial destruction, and I see a $20 billion — a $20 trillion deficit in the few years to come.”
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            • wtf
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-22-08
              • 12983

              #7
              six months from now all the obama butt licks on this site will deny voting for him
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388189

                #8
                Obama is not too bright, too bad we all found out too late. He really fooled us. He is an entertainer.
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                • DwightShrute
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-17-09
                  • 102630

                  #9
                  1,399
                  Days Until Barack Obama is Out of Office
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                  • Igetp2s
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-21-07
                    • 1046

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jjgold
                    Obama is not too bright, too bad we all found out too late. He really fooled us. He is an entertainer.
                    Speak for yourself. Many, many people lnew that long before Barack "57 States" Obama was elected.
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                    • Tsoprano
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 04-14-08
                      • 26374

                      #11
                      Originally posted by jjgold
                      He is an entertainer.
                      yes he is



                      unreal

                      filling these out..



                      while people are losing their jobs/businesses and going broke....
                      Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 06-24-15, 12:22 PM. Reason: image does not exist
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                      • ryanXL977
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 02-24-08
                        • 20615

                        #12
                        yeah, im sure he isnt working 18 hr days, what do you guys want him to do? what will make you happy? do you understand what he is up against?
                        he should never do anything but work, everyday, no going out in public, nothing but work? get real people.
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                        • slacker00
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 10-06-05
                          • 12262

                          #13
                          Yeah, like McCain was gonna save us. Get real.
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                          • ATB515
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-08-09
                            • 734

                            #14
                            this guys link is from a website called againstobama.com
                            Are you kidding me? Very credible dipshit
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                            • reno cool
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-02-08
                              • 3567

                              #15
                              The more these guys hate him, the more I like him.
                              bird bird da bird's da word
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                              • andywend
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-20-07
                                • 4805

                                #16
                                Originally posted by reno cool
                                The more these guys hate him, the more I like him.
                                Reno, that is exactly the way I felt about President Bush.

                                I couldn't stand his overspending and making government bigger but I figured if the "far left" despised him so much, then he couldn't be all bad.

                                My fellow Obama critics are erroring in their judgment going after him for that "Special Olympics" blunder and the filling out of the NCAA basketball brackets. Those are total non-issues.

                                They need to concentrate their criticisms on the real mistakes that Obama is making like bankrupting the country with his massive, massive spending proposals.

                                When Obama gets bashed about the little things, the heat gets diminished on the major stuff.
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                                • wtf
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 08-22-08
                                  • 12983

                                  #17
                                  he ran out to california to avoid some heat on the aig stuff for a while and create a diversion

                                  mission accomplished
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                                  • Boner_18
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-24-08
                                    • 8301

                                    #18
                                    I think the dems in the house set him up to look good by passing a clearly unconstitutional law only to have him decry their methods. I mean really, they didn't actually think that using the tax code to enforce moral obligations would work.... did they?
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                                    • wtf
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-22-08
                                      • 12983

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Boner_18
                                      I think the dems in the house set him up to look good by passing a clearly unconstitutional law only to have him decry their methods. I mean really, they didn't actually think that using the tax code to enforce moral obligations would work.... did they?
                                      wow boner, you give the dems WAY TOO MUCH CREDIT

                                      they were simply reacting to constituents outrage, showing they did "something"
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