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  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #1
    Swisssssss to advance +355
    Any value in this number? Or would it be a dead bet? Take them at +0.5/+1 (+130)? Or not at all? I have hardly bet the World Cup at all, but I'm looking for some degen morning action and wondering when there will finally be an upset in the WC.
  • homie1975
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-24-13
    • 15452

    #2
    I love the swiss but the problem is the firepower. Argentina has more weapons than the swiss. Swiss equal better team though.
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    • No coincidences
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 01-18-10
      • 76300

      #3
      Originally posted by homie1975
      I love the swiss but the problem is the firepower. Argentina has more weapons than the swiss. Swiss equal better team though.
      So at +355? Worth a small play?
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      • homie1975
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 12-24-13
        • 15452

        #4
        Yes small play only
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        • homie1975
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-24-13
          • 15452

          #5
          Messi and that dam. Left foot can easily break a tie
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          • Dollars2Donuts
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-07-13
            • 8803

            #6
            I like the Swiss +1 at even money. Thats the bet here.
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            • homie1975
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-24-13
              • 15452

              #7
              Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
              I like the Swiss +1 at even money. Thats the bet here.

              Forgive the ignorance because i dont bet soccer. If regulation incl ot ends in a tie and goes to pk, do u win?
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              • Dollars2Donuts
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-07-13
                • 8803

                #8
                Yes. Even if it goes to an extra period, the plus 1 is a winner.
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                • BadLuckSanta
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-30-10
                  • 2756

                  #9
                  Not worth it

                  If you want a dog take USA
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                  • Dollars2Donuts
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                    • 02-07-13
                    • 8803

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BadLuckSanta
                    Not worth it

                    If you want a dog take USA
                    The US (IMO) doesn't pay enough for the risk. Belgium in regulation is the best bet on that game. If I could get the US plus 1 at even money I would be all over it.
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                    • nskokov
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 06-16-14
                      • 30

                      #11
                      The Swiss are a very solid team. Went 7-0-3 in qualifying, giving up only 6 goals in 10 games. They also beat Brazil 1-0 in a friendly. The only real bad game was the France game where they lost 5-2, but the second half was a 2-2 draw.

                      Besides Messi Argentina has not impressed at all and I'm still confused as to why everyone is riding them in this tournament.

                      Are they the better team than Switzerland? Probably. Is there any value in betting them? I dont think so. This round of 16 has also been crazy so far with every game coming so dang close to being an upset. This one finally will be.

                      I'm taking Swiss ML +600 at 2 units.
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                      • k13
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 07-16-10
                        • 18104

                        #12
                        Live dog for sure.

                        Refs probably screw them.
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                        • Cuse0323
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-09-09
                          • 30169

                          #13
                          Like Argentina to win by 2, myself.
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                          • crustyme
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 09-29-10
                            • 16896

                            #14
                            just donate to a charity.

                            argentina will advance.
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                            • Robin Van Rogan
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-21-14
                              • 115

                              #15
                              I'm in 1st goal after 27.5 min at + money.

                              There is the natural anxiety of an elimination game, also Swiss play defense very well and it'll try to defend 1st half and frustrate Argentina.

                              Also it's a safe bet, because after the 27,5 minute mark, your're safe, because if there's no goals in the match, it's a push.
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                              • Big Bear
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-01-11
                                • 43253

                                #16
                                Originally posted by crustyme
                                just donate to a charity.

                                argentina will advance.
                                OP would never donate to charity.
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                                • no1here
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-23-09
                                  • 5914

                                  #17
                                  agentina and usa both on a mission today
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                                  • oldscho0led
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-18-11
                                    • 1407

                                    #18
                                    at +355 def has value... Swiss Cheese is looking to attack, Argentina too.. and both have bad defense..

                                    and the best part in this is a DOG has yet to advance this round
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                                    • RubberKettle
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-28-09
                                      • 6421

                                      #19
                                      Swiss played last game in Manuas, every team thats played in Manaus has lost their next game bar Portugal.

                                      Swiss better keep the ball or they chase Albiceleste all over the pitch. Thought this line would be more like +500.
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                                      • bruins35
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-19-11
                                        • 4011

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by nskokov
                                        The Swiss are a very solid team. Went 7-0-3 in qualifying, giving up only 6 goals in 10 games. They also beat Brazil 1-0 in a friendly. The only real bad game was the France game where they lost 5-2, but the second half was a 2-2 draw.

                                        Besides Messi Argentina has not impressed at all and I'm still confused as to why everyone is riding them in this tournament.

                                        Are they the better team than Switzerland? Probably. Is there any value in betting them? I dont think so. This round of 16 has also been crazy so far with every game coming so dang close to being an upset. This one finally will be.

                                        I'm taking Swiss ML +600 at 2 units.
                                        great post changed my mind
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                                        • Dmoneytx
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                                          • 02-09-12
                                          • 6450

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by bruins35
                                          great post changed my mind
                                          Ouch...
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                                          • homie1975
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-24-13
                                            • 15452

                                            #22
                                            When they lost 5-2 to France it showed me they're not ready to play with the big boys
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                                            • homie1975
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 12-24-13
                                              • 15452

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by nskokov
                                              The Swiss are a very solid team. Went 7-0-3 in qualifying, giving up only 6 goals in 10 games. They also beat Brazil 1-0 in a friendly. The only real bad game was the France game where they lost 5-2, but the second half was a 2-2 draw.

                                              Besides Messi Argentina has not impressed at all and I'm still confused as to why everyone is riding them in this tournament.

                                              Are they the better team than Switzerland? Probably. Is there any value in betting them? I dont think so. This round of 16 has also been crazy so far with every game coming so dang close to being an upset. This one finally will be.

                                              I'm taking Swiss ML +600 at 2 units.
                                              The Round of 16 historically is always close. If u don't wanna look to far back in history just look at the 02 then 06 then 10. Literally every ko stage gm was close. It's this way because most Rd of 16 teams are good
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                                              • Dollars2Donuts
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                                                • 02-07-13
                                                • 8803

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by no1here
                                                agentina and usa both on a mission today
                                                On a mission? Lol.

                                                I believe Argentine probably advances today, but I still think the Swiss are the side to be on with the odds. First there is a good chance they go to extra time or PKs and there is a chance they win outright. Enough to justify the +100 odds anyway because there is also a good chance they push in regulation with a one goal Argentina win. My feeling is the Swiss win here in regulation 15% of the time, have a draw in regulation time 35% of the time, and lose in regulation by one goal (given their defense) 25% of the time. This should be an outright loser only one in four matches, meaning the +1 at +money is a no brainer.

                                                As for the US, I was originally looking to get all over them.....I think they have a decent chance in the game.....until I looked at the odds. I was sure that Belgium would be -1 at even odds. Instead they are -.5 and this easily sways my opinion over to Belgium. Just another straight math play.

                                                Good of luck either way. I would prefer to see the US advance on a personal level. It would be great to see two CONCACAF teams in the quarters.
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                                                • rake922
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                                                  • 12-23-07
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                                                  #25
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                                                  • Pauulzcappin
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                                                    • 04-23-10
                                                    • 20295

                                                    #26
                                                    The Swiss bet is toast even on the spread if Argentina manages to get one in early. It will make Swiss have to attack. Then they are in trouble.
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                                                    • No coincidences
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 01-18-10
                                                      • 76300

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by BadLuckSanta
                                                      Not worth it

                                                      If you want a dog take USA
                                                      Not a very good price given the chance of that happening IMHO.

                                                      +150? That's it?
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                                                      • Dollars2Donuts
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                                                        • 02-07-13
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                                                        The Swiss bet is toast even on the spread if Argentina manages to get one in early. It will make Swiss have to attack. Then they are in trouble.
                                                        Yes, that is true....but you have just named one of a bunch of different scenarios. Anyone could also say 'if Argentina doesn't score in the first half they are in trouble' or 'if it's tied at the half the Swiss defense will become even stronger'.

                                                        Argentina are not as good as people are thinking and the Swiss are better than people are giving them credit for. I am not saying that the Swiss win here, all I am saying is that I believe they are the side to be on.
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                                                        • No coincidences
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-18-10
                                                          • 76300

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by k13
                                                          Live dog for sure.

                                                          Refs probably screw them.
                                                          That's what I'm worried about -- and why I never bet soccer. This shit makes the WWE look on the level.
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                                                          • No coincidences
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 01-18-10
                                                            • 76300

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                            OP would never donate to charity.
                                                            I give more to church/charity than you make at Burger King in a year, simpleton.
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                                                            • No coincidences
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-18-10
                                                              • 76300

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Pauulzcappin
                                                              The Swiss bet is toast even on the spread if Argentina manages to get one in early. It will make Swiss have to attack. Then they are in trouble.
                                                              Couldn't you say that about most bigger dogs in the World Cup though?
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                                                              • bababooey13
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-13-13
                                                                • 1897

                                                                #32
                                                                Swiss for me. Argentina more overrated than Megan Fox
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                                                                • tien2262
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 10-15-12
                                                                  • 83

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                                  I give more to church/charity than you make at Burger King in a year, simpleton.
                                                                  If u give to church, ur a dumbfuk. Lol
                                                                  Thats all the church ever want. Money money money!!!
                                                                  Worshipping a bunch of idiots in church
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                                                                  • Doughboy22
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-01-12
                                                                    • 4189

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by bababooey13
                                                                    Swiss for me. Argentina more overrated than Megan Fox
                                                                    You sir, sound like a gay!!!
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                                                                    • bababooey13
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-13-13
                                                                      • 1897

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Doughboy22
                                                                      You sir, sound like a gay!!!
                                                                      so? its 2014 bro.. stop hating on us. from your avatar looks like youd fit right in with us.
                                                                      come check back in at 2 pm pal
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