Iwinyourmoney.... let's see if you're just a big talker...

**DeluxeLiner** · 03-17-09, 09:34 AM

This would be an epic showdown.

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 09:39 AM

Wow what an offer...even I win over 300 plays (10-12 days worth) every now and then. Hopefully Iwin accepts this.

**Junkyard Dog** · 03-17-09, 09:50 AM

**Bread** · 03-17-09, 09:50 AM

Iwin is gonna be my sugar daddy.

**pavyracer** · 03-17-09, 09:52 AM

Iwinyourmoney only pays for his own food.

**Nicky Santoro** · 03-17-09, 09:55 AM

boys, when iwin comes in here and says, why should i have to prove to you that i am a winner, then we will all know he's full of it that he makes a living off this cause if he did, then he'd take the free 1k.. i am even offering him pinny's 10 cent lines here, not 20 cent lines of CW.. so his chances are way better.. and 300 games is enough for him to prove he's a winner in gambling. if he's that good, he'll win the $$.

will iwin accept my offer of 1k?

NO -325
YES +265

________

Does Iwin really make a living off gambling?

NO -700
YES +580

_______

Is Iwin a big talker?

YES -1300
NO +1050

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 09:57 AM

Anything can happen over 300 plays but if I were a winning gambler I would definitely take the offer. I can hit 47% over 3000 bets which isn't too bad and would consider the offer.

Looks like some decent prices on the dogs..I'll look for better lines elsewhere first.

**DeluxeLiner** · 03-17-09, 10:00 AM

Anything can happen in 300 games. Could be very exciting.

**Matt Rain** · 03-17-09, 10:00 AM

Good call Nicky. No way Iwin will accept.

**pavyracer** · 03-17-09, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by diogee

Anything can happen over 300 plays but if I were a winning gambler I would definitely take the offer. I can hit 47% over 3000 bets which isn't too bad and would consider the offer.

Looks like some decent prices on the dogs..I'll look for better lines elsewhere first.

Can I be your book?

3,000 bets x $110 per bet = $330,000 risked
3000 x $210 x 0.47 = $296,100 paid back
Net Loss = $33,900

Please let me be your bookie Diogee.

**Nicky Santoro** · 03-17-09, 10:03 AM

Originally posted by DeluxeLiner

Anything can happen in 300 games. Could be very exciting.

i agree, i am willing to make it 500 games if he wants, but he needs to put em all in in 3 months. i am not waiting 2 yrs for him to finish 500 bets.. in fact, i will even say this.. he can bet 500-1000 games if he wants, but he has 3 months to put in bets, but he can't put in more than 1000 bets, and no less than 500.. how's that?

**Matt Rain** · 03-17-09, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Can I be your book?

3,000 bets x $110 per bet = $330,000 risked
3000 x $210 x 0.47 = $296,100 paid back
Net Loss = $33,900

Please let me be your bookie Diogee.

Diogee does not play sharp/mature/fair lines (most of the time anyway). He's also the only documented, statistically-significant winner on this whole site.

**daggerkobe** · 03-17-09, 10:05 AM

Why wouldn't he agree to this?

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 10:05 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Can I be your book?

3,000 bets x $110 per bet = $330,000 risked
3000 x $210 x 0.47 = $296,100 paid back
Net Loss = $33,900

Please let me be your bookie Diogee.

Pavy looking for early retirement. Almost 2200 this year so far. Could have already been 2/3 the way there.

**Nicky Santoro** · 03-17-09, 10:07 AM

Originally posted by daggerkobe

Why wouldn't he agree to this?

ain't i being very fair dags? 500 to 1000 plays.. that gives him a lot to play with.. if he's a long term winner, he'd be throwing money away if he didn't take offer.. it would prove he's not a real winner.

i can't make it more easy for him than this..

lets see now if he accepts offer.. i still say no..

**DeluxeLiner** · 03-17-09, 10:14 AM

Looking at his spreadsheet it would make sense for Iwin to take this offer (if he could hit the line when he posts instead of closing line). He has made mostly straight bets and some parlays and some moneylines but currently hitting pretty well and is in the black thus far with this month with over a hundred bets already made. So it should be no problem for him to make over 500 bets in 3 months. Also Iwin would be risking two straight bets (he bets 500 a game according to spreadsheet) for this. Seems pretty fair.

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Matt Rain

Diogee does not play sharp/mature/fair lines (most of the time anyway). He's also the only documented, statistically-significant winner on this whole site.

I just play anything I feel I have the slightest edge in whether it is taking an off number at a different site compared to pinny, fading the public, fading a hot team due to over adjustment, etc. Very thin line between winning and losing in this game...regression could absolutely slam me at any time. Still learning this game...finally have a year under my belt but plenty to learn.

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by DeluxeLiner

Looking at his spreadsheet it would make sense for Iwin to take this offer (if he could hit the line when he posts instead of closing line). He has made mostly straight bets and some parlays and some moneylines but currently hitting pretty well and is in the black thus far with this month with over a hundred bets already made. So it should be no problem for him to make over 500 bets in 3 months. Also Iwin would be risking two straight bets (he bets 500 a game according to spreadsheet) for this. Seems pretty fair.

That's a good assessment...so far at 66-48 (57.89%) you would expect some regression though. Say he is a 54% overall capper and regression runs it's course over the next 500 plays he would still win even at -110 (268-232 +12.8). Great deal offered imo...only downfall is that hoops season is winding down and I don't think he is big into bases.

**Nicky Santoro** · 03-17-09, 10:32 AM

i dont care what his record is over the last 100 games or so... it means nothing to me.. i want to see him accept offer of 1k.. which he won't.. iwin, where the fukk are you?? come in here and respond. i have to go out soon and i will not be back for 3-4 hrs..

iwin, put the eggs and toast away for a minute and tell me if you accept the offer, even though i know you won't, mr professional gambler

**DeluxeLiner** · 03-17-09, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by diogee

That's a good assessment...so far at 66-48 (57.89%) you would expect some regression though. Say he is a 54% overall capper and regression runs it's course over the next 500 plays he would still win even at -110 (268-232 +12.8). Great deal offered imo...only downfall is that hoops season is winding down and I don't think he is big into bases.

That is true. He is big on football and bball. And last year he got crushed by the NCAA (sorry to bring up painful memories) I guess this is not the best time to propose this.

Just to add another positive for iwin which is big in his favor...the 10 cent line from pinny over the 20 cent lines he uses (so his profits would obviously be better)

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by Nicky Santoro

i dont care what his record is over the last 100 games or so... it means nothing to me.. i want to see him accept offer of 1k.. which he won't.. iwin, where the fukk are you?? come in here and respond. i have to go out soon and i will not be back for 3-4 hrs..

iwin, put the eggs and toast away for a minute and tell me if you accept the offer, even though i know you won't, mr professional gambler

Yeah of course you don't care about the last 100 games but we all know that 58% isn't attainable and that statistics would suggest regression towards the mean...whether it be over the course of the next 300 games, 500 games, 1000 games, etc. C'mon Nicky you know this to be true. Happens to everybody...you go on a hot streak for a few weeks and expect a downfall just due to the nature of the game so while it may not mean anything to you it does have statistical significance for him.

**wtf** · 03-17-09, 10:53 AM

glad your calling him out on this nicky, will be interesting

especially if he gets in your face and ups the ante to 10k, which he should do if he is that good

**Nicky Santoro** · 03-17-09, 11:00 AM

Originally posted by wtf

glad your calling him out on this nicky, will be interesting

especially if he gets in your face and ups the ante to 10k, which he should do if he is that good

Up the ante to 10k?? are you kidding me?? i predict he says either.. NO.. and then say, why should i have to prove to you that i make money for? i dont have to do this..

OR

he will say that he'll do it for $200 at most.. not 1k..

those are the only 2 scenarios i foresee, but as you say, it's true that if he really meant what he said that he makes a living gmbling, then he should jump on this free money offer, and if not, then he just talks for nothing. he has to back his statement now..

i'm even making it easy for him.. 500-1000 games.. so if he's ever up units at any pt in between 500 to his 1000th game, he can quit and win contest.

i'm going out now for a few hrs.. i hope he will have responded when i get back..

**sickler** · 03-17-09, 11:12 AM

**pavyracer** · 03-17-09, 11:16 AM

I'm still waiting for Nicky "The Chicken" Santoro to respond to my $50,000 capping challenge from a few months back.

**Slim** · 03-17-09, 11:54 AM

I wonder what Iwin means by food and everything? If his parents pay the bills isn't that everything? So he only pays for food I guess.

**Shark79** · 03-17-09, 11:54 AM

Classic thread.

Another "capper" just got punked.

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Slim

I wonder what Iwin means by food and everything? If his parents pay the bills isn't that everything? So he only pays for food I guess.

food, alcohol, entertainment, car, insurance, gasoline, basic necessities, etc

**wtf** · 03-17-09, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I'm still waiting for Nicky "The Chicken" Santoro to respond to my $50,000 capping challenge from a few months back.

its always all about you isnt it

this whole site is about u

**pavyracer** · 03-17-09, 12:00 PM

Originally posted by wtf

its always all about you isnt it

this whole site is about u

That's what they pay me for pal. Get on the payroll so you can be me.

**Shark79** · 03-17-09, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by diogee

food, alcohol, entertainment, car, insurance, gasoline, basic necessities, etc

Dont forget paying trailer chicks for sex.

And ex girlfriends phone bill.

**AgainstAllOdds** · 03-17-09, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by wtf

its always all about you isnt it

this whole site is about u

Pavy likes to try to be the center of attention on things. Most of the time he just makes dumb comments to get people riled up.

As for Iwin, he will probably decline because he doesnt gamble as a profession and would lose his ass to nicky.

**diogee** · 03-17-09, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by Shark79

Dont forget paying trailer chicks for sex.

And ex girlfriends phone bill.

That is included in the entertainment section.

If he declines I'm sure someone would accept the offer if Nicky extended it out.

**pavyracer** · 03-17-09, 12:06 PM

Like AAO said you can't start a fire without a spark...