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  • UntilTheNDofTimE
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    • 05-29-08
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    #1
    Can someone better explain action points for me
    Ive been betting for 4 years but i dont understand this completely, ok i understnd the concept if your bet is lakers/spurs Ov 196 and you wager $100 per point on action points

    the final is 115-114 for 229 you would win 33 x 100= $3300

    reversely if the game ended 94-86 for 180 youd loose 16 x 110= for $1760

    where are these wagers offered and can they only be accepted on a credit book?, if i had 2,000 in 5 dimes and i bet a under with action points at 100 and it went over by like 25 points my account would be broke so id owe them money i assume, so are these bets only offered through locals, and if offered online at what books, thanks
  • Tsoprano
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    #2
    Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
    Ive been betting for 4 years but i dont understand this completely, ok i understnd the concept if your bet is lakers/spurs Ov 196 and you wager $100 per point on action points

    the final is 115-114 for 229 you would win 33 x 100= $3300

    reversely if the game ended 94-86 for 180 youd loose 16 x 110= for $1760
    correct

    You pick an amount for each point that goes above/below the total.
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    • onthewhat
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      • 05-14-08
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      #3
      good question, dont know what happens if you dont have enough in your account to cover the losses
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      • UntilTheNDofTimE
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        #4
        i no that tsoprano my question is will any non credit book accept these wagers because your balance might not beable to cover a big loss in action points, if anyone had action point on the under in the miami game they coulda had 3,000 in there account and be broke, so what books accept these wagers and how is it settled if it goes over,
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        • fearless
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          • 08-14-06
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          #5
          Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
          i no that tsoprano my question is will any non credit book accept these wagers because your balance might not beable to cover a big loss in action points, if anyone had action point on the under in the miami game they coulda had 3,000 in there account and be broke, so what books accept these wagers and how is it settled if it goes over,
          Betcris/bookmaker does but you have to phone it in and you must be "approved". Also, your wins and losses are limited to ten points max per game. Pico mentioned to me today that the Greek has action point betting, I don't know about that for sure.
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          • VegasDave
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            • 01-03-07
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            #6
            If I'm not mistaken Until (someone can verify this I'm sure) you SET a maximum beforehand.

            So you would say 55 to win 50, up to 10 points... so the most you stand to lose is 550 and the most you stand to win is 500.

            As such, if the maximum you set X the unit you set = more than your account, the wager would not be accepted.
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            • onthewhat
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              #7
              good call dave

              what if someone bet a dime a point on syracuse/uconn game over and set a max at 10 points

              they probably committed suicide
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              • Tsoprano
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                #8
                A great way to get wiped out
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                • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by VegasDave
                  If I'm not mistaken Until (someone can verify this I'm sure) you SET a maximum beforehand.

                  So you would say 55 to win 50, up to 10 points... so the most you stand to lose is 550 and the most you stand to win is 500.

                  As such, if the maximum you set X the unit you set = more than your account, the wager would not be accepted.
                  thanks dave i didnt no there was a max under or over u can set, thanks for the clariffication,
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                  • VegasDave
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by onthewhat
                    good call dave

                    what if someone bet a dime a point on syracuse/uconn game over and set a max at 10 points

                    they probably committed suicide
                    On the contrary, they'd be thanking God that they set the maximum at 10 points and only lost $10,000 instead of the $99,000 they'd have lost with no max
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                    • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                      #11
                      IF you can set a maximum to say 35 points could this be possible to profit long term, as i said above ive been betting roughly 3-4 and im my experience it seems overs go WAY OVER alot more than unders go WAY UNDER, for instance

                      u see lines of 205-215 go from 230+ pretty often
                      contraversely you dont see 180 lines hit 155-160 very often
                      anyone have any stats to support the average number of how many points a total goes under vs over?
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                      • Immortality
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                        • 12-20-07
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by VegasDave
                        On the contrary, they'd be thanking God that they set the maximum at 10 points and only lost $10,000 instead of the $99,000 they'd have lost with no max
                        Dave if they took the over for action points then the max would of prevented them from winning more not losing more.
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                        • fearless
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                          IF you can set a maximum to say 35 points could this be possible to profit long term, as i said above ive been betting roughly 3-4 and im my experience it seems overs go WAY OVER alot more than unders go WAY UNDER, for instance

                          u see lines of 205-215 go from 230+ pretty often
                          contraversely you dont see 180 lines hit 155-160 very often
                          anyone have any stats to support the average number of how many points a total goes under vs over?
                          That's exactly right, I've noticed that too. The thread below has a perfect example. A Knicks-Warriors game is played at such a speed that if the players shoot well at all, the game is guaranteed to zoom over. If you take the under you're hoping that it's an off shooting night, imho. If it's an off shooting night then it will still probably be pretty close to the total even if it goes under, imho.

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                          • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                            #14
                            so will books over a unlimited limit on the amount of points u can set, say 35 in my example, i think playing these games as stated above can be profitable because theyd go way over alot more than way under,
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                            • Tsoprano
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                              #15
                              locals are unlimited in certain cases
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                              • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                                #16
                                Theres not really too many LOCALS around here, most of them are asain and they only deal with parlays that dont even pay true odds, the one local i have found has maxes at 500( win or loss per week), which is like 2 loosing wagers at my unit, so its not worth it, ill keep using 5 dimes and carib with those options
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                                • Tsoprano
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                                  #17
                                  Where are you located?
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                                  • UntilTheNDofTimE
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                                    #18
                                    Sacramento CA
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                                    • Tsoprano
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                                      #19
                                      Ah
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                                      • VegasDave
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Immortality
                                        Dave if they took the over for action points then the max would of prevented them from winning more not losing more.
                                        Oops, good call, I misread
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                                        • Bluehorseshoe
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                                          • 07-13-06
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                                          #21
                                          The Greek takes them.

                                          You have to put a cap on it either way.
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