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  • jaytee20
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-02-09
    • 140

    #1
    is Heritage still a respectable book?
    Replaced by Ladbrokes again?
  • flyingillini
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 12-06-06
    • 41219

    #2
    Heritage has always been a top notch outfit and they continue to be leaders in the industry.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388179

      #3
      Top notch
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      • BigDeem5
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 02-26-11
        • 17191

        #4
        It's like asking is your girl still a *** guzzling slut?
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        • relaaxx
          SBR MVP
          • 06-15-06
          • 3281

          #5
          one of only a few good choices if you are in the US.
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          • jjgold
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 07-20-05
            • 388179

            #6
            Do they even take new customers anymore?
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            • darkhat
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 08-18-10
              • 5722

              #7
              top 3 US book

              don't accept new customers
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              • mets1981
                SBR Rookie
                • 05-04-14
                • 34

                #8
                If you want to try out heritage, I can see if I can refer you. I was trying to get into heritage for years, then out of the blue they called me one day to deposit. Turns out I had a bet Jamaica account and when they closed down heritage took their US customers.
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                • darkhat
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-18-10
                  • 5722

                  #9
                  they are pretty strict right now, they wont' let me refer anyone

                  i even have a friend that had a dormant account, but was a loser there, and they still wouldn't let him deposit recently.
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                  • flyingillini
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 12-06-06
                    • 41219

                    #10
                    I can refer people but only those I can "vouch" for. And I can't vouch for anyone on this site.
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                    • LT Profits
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 10-27-06
                      • 90963

                      #11
                      No more USA customers at Heritage. Take note:

                      Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                      • darkhat
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 08-18-10
                        • 5722

                        #12
                        Originally posted by LT Profits
                        No more USA customers at Heritage. Take note:

                        http://www.sbrforum.com/ratings/
                        for new accounts only, unless something changed in the last 48 hours
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                        • LT Profits
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 10-27-06
                          • 90963

                          #13
                          Originally posted by darkhat
                          for new accounts only, unless something changed in the last 48 hours
                          Correct. So referring new USA guys is a no-go.
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                          • mets1981
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 05-04-14
                            • 34

                            #14
                            What is there to vouch for anyway? It's not like asking for credit. They are one of my favorite outs.
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              I would think they are filled to capacity too, must have book for usa sports players
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                              • John Dough
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-21-05
                                • 1785

                                #16
                                Top notch, A+, see all above posts, etc...
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                                • rangerz2478
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-06-12
                                  • 1194

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by John Dough
                                  Top notch, A+, see all above posts, etc...
                                  Top notch unless you are a winning player. Im cut to 50 bucks across the board. Top of the industry is nonsense.
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                                  • lecubs28
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-17-11
                                    • 638

                                    #18
                                    lol no fking way

                                    **** BOOK
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                                    • OUTCAST
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 05-10-10
                                      • 284

                                      #19
                                      Heritage has always been one of my favorite books even it has lowered my limits lately.
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                                      • SBRMAN23
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-07-11
                                        • 6905

                                        #20
                                        My fav book they treat you like a real person unlike 5crimes with their terrible promotions you cant be eligible for no matter how much money you lose if you play their poker wtf dumb shittt is that.
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                                        • flyingillini
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 12-06-06
                                          • 41219

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by mets1981
                                          What is there to vouch for anyway? It's not like asking for credit. They are one of my favorite outs.
                                          I have been with Heritage for many years now and have a very good rapport with them. I could refer someone and they become a problem or a shot taker with them , many different things one could do. I refer personal friends that's it.
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                                          • jaytee20
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 11-02-09
                                            • 140

                                            #22
                                            I'm there, after getting kicked out of The Greek, because of my citizenship accident. I like the book. Their column on the SBR odds pages replaced by Ladbrokes.

                                            Edit by SBR Admin: Hi jaytee20, can you please clear your cookies? This should not be occurring.
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                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 01-02-12
                                              • 19734

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jaytee20
                                              I'm there, after getting kicked out of The Greek, because of my citizenship accident. I like the book. Their column on the SBR odds pages replaced by Ladbrokes.
                                              that's an error. mine was like that too and they fixed it. retry your book order.
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                It's probably top four books in the last 10 years
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                                                • unluckysob
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-21-08
                                                  • 1527

                                                  #25
                                                  what is a citizenship accident?
                                                  Originally posted by jaytee20
                                                  I'm there, after getting kicked out of The Greek, because of my citizenship accident. I like the book. Their column on the SBR odds pages replaced by Ladbrokes.
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                                                  • Bill Dozer
                                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                    • 10894

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by rangerz2478
                                                    Top notch unless you are a winning player. Im cut to 50 bucks across the board. Top of the industry is nonsense.
                                                    Rangers, Heritage doesnt cut straights to $50 as far as we know. They wouldnt bother. Are you sure this isn't live betting only? Id guess you can get down more on today's NBA or MLB game.
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                                                    • Ian
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 11-09-09
                                                      • 6071

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                      Rangers, Heritage doesnt cut straights to $50 as far as we know. They wouldnt bother. Are you sure this isn't live betting only? Id guess you can get down more on today's NBA or MLB game.
                                                      Bill,

                                                      I've never made a live bet in my life and I'm cut to $50 straight bets on a handful of sports. Not major markets.

                                                      EDIT: Once they start limiting a customer they are aggressive. CS also goes from fantastic to nasty.
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                                                      • lecubs28
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 10-17-11
                                                        • 638

                                                        #28
                                                        there are lots of better books that deal only one set of lines. it's just easier that way, if a book sets a line on a game, you know they aren't offering other customers a different line. because if they get to set the line for each individual player, then you are probably getting a terrible price on your bets, based on your betting patterns that they notice. it's just not worth it when there are better options out there.

                                                        also customer service used to be excellent, they were best in the business. now it's just really bad, like slightly worse than most of the other costa rica books.
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                                                        • Bill Dozer
                                                          www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                          • 07-12-05
                                                          • 10894

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Ian

                                                          Bill,

                                                          I've never made a live bet in my life and I'm cut to $50 straight bets on a handful of sports. Not major markets.

                                                          EDIT: Once they start limiting a customer they are aggressive. CS also goes from fantastic to nasty.
                                                          Live bets and props, for those that only bet those off market, seem to be the ones that get the $50. I don't think theyll put a side or total at $50.

                                                          Lecubs,
                                                          That's just not true and not how dual lines work. Hate the dual line but its typically a square line and a true market line for everyone else. It's not as if all the people in Canada are getting inflated Toronto Raptors lines and people that love to bet the Chicago bulls are getting a worse line on them. A lot of new player get pissed off when a line is at -120 because of a move. They dont want to bet their team laying 120 bucks. They more often just want to get the over and the favorite and play around with those props that the guys who are trading are killin. Any newbie who checks SBRodds will get a good price on a dog.

                                                          Only book that I heard of scamming players on lines was BetUs. They gave clients of the scamdicapper a certain lineset based on who he told them to bet.
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                                                          • lecubs28
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 10-17-11
                                                            • 638

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                            Lecubs,
                                                            That's just not true and not how dual lines work. Hate the dual line but its typically a square line and a true market line for everyone else. It's not as if all the people in Canada are getting inflated Toronto Raptors lines and people that love to bet the Chicago bulls are getting a worse line on them. A lot of new player get pissed off when a line is at -120 because of a move. They dont want to bet their team laying 120 bucks. They more often just want to get the over and the favorite and play around with those props that the guys who are trading are killin. Any newbie who checks SBRodds will get a good price on a dog.
                                                            i didn't mean to imply that there is a different set of lines for every city or something. but it's just not standard to offer multiple sets of lines to different customers. that practice is explicitly illegal in vegas because it's unethical. so i don't think it's something you can just paint over and say it's okay because there are only two sets of lines. a big part of their marketing strategy is based on a lie. they promised reduced juice. -108 lines, 8c overnight mlb lines, but the reality is that there is a huge disparity among their two sets of lines, sometimes the difference is 10 or even 15c. if you can charge a recreational bettor an extra 10c from the fair market rate on a big square team like the heat or the patriots, that guy doesn't stand a chance. he's going to lose anyway, now you're just clubbing him over the head. i don't think that's right, even in this business.

                                                            it's also highly relevant that there are other shops with equal betting options, often better bonuses, and better cashiers that don't subject customers to dual lines. if heritage was the only option available, it might be different. but there's just no reason to play there with better alternatives available.
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                                                            • rangerz2478
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 08-06-12
                                                              • 1194

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                              Rangers, Heritage doesnt cut straights to $50 as far as we know. They wouldnt bother. Are you sure this isn't live betting only? Id guess you can get down more on today's NBA or MLB game.
                                                              $50 are my limits on futures/props/ALL live betting. The live betting aspect is the part that really bothers me. Pre-game wagering in my opinion will soon become a thing of the past. I love live wagering and make a huge majority of my plays live. I understand them cutting my futures/props if that is ALL I am playing. But to limit my live betting to an amount that is pretty much worthless in my opinion isn't right. I'm not doing anything wrong by playing live.

                                                              I have been in contact with someone at heritage about this so I will see what happens before commenting further.
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                                                              • Ian
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-09-09
                                                                • 6071

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by Bill Dozer
                                                                Live bets and props, for those that only bet those off market, seem to be the ones that get the $50. I don't think theyll put a side or total at $50.
                                                                You are wrong. Sides and totals for some minor market stuff is $50 for me. I don't "only bet off market." My bets are recreational, but I do line shop and try to make good bets (who doesn't?). Apparently, that's all it takes.
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                                                                • geebert74
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 09-03-09
                                                                  • 2445

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                                                  It's like asking is your girl still a *** guzzling slut?
                                                                  Deemer always knows how to put things so gently...
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                                                                  • Bill Dozer
                                                                    www.twitter.com/BillDozer
                                                                    • 07-12-05
                                                                    • 10894

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by rangerz2478

                                                                    $50 are my limits on futures/props/ALL live betting. The live betting aspect is the part that really bothers me. Pre-game wagering in my opinion will soon become a thing of the past. I love live wagering and make a huge majority of my plays live. I understand them cutting my futures/props if that is ALL I am playing. But to limit my live betting to an amount that is pretty much worthless in my opinion isn't right. I'm not doing anything wrong by playing live.

                                                                    I have been in contact with someone at heritage about this so I will see what happens before commenting further.
                                                                    Im not disagreeing with you. It sucks to be limited when you have an angle. But you said you were limited across the board which I guess isnt true. Heritage didnt even have this live betting last year and live betting wouldn't be considered main offering at this point.

                                                                    It's a big difference because straight bets have established markets like the price of gas or gold. Yea different here or there but you know what it costs. Props are often unique to the book and in-game is booked essentially another guy versus you with a vig to his advantage. I say yell loud about live bet limits and maybe you can even move the needle but you're in the same boat with everyone else. If you were down to $50 on NBA straights youd be pretty unique.
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                                                                    • robmpink
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-09-07
                                                                      • 13205

                                                                      #35
                                                                      good book. Happy I re deposited w/ them recently. My account was dormant for about 2 years.
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