If Mayweather keeps pushing his luck he will get clipped
Maybe pacman could beat him now
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Ron_Paul_2012
SBR MVP
01-31-13
3953
#37
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
What a penetrating moronic conclusion.
The entire handle on unanimous decision across the entire market is probably sub $30k, but there's a giant conspiracy to wipe out that specific prop bet that is only offered by a FEW books.
No GIANT conspiracy Scoots. Just a little money exchanged that's all. Happen's all the time. You might want to listen to this interview & read the deadspin article as well. Cheers!
I had it 116-112 but a couple of the rounds I gave to Maidana due to thinking I was perhaps being biased but I don't think he did very much effectively. Floyd consistently landed the cleaner shots and only significant shots throughout the fight. He was like a sharpshooter tonight.
How do you know the judge was corrupt? This is a very serious allegation if true.
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SBR Lou
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08-02-07
37863
#39
Originally posted by pavyracer
How do you know the judge was corrupt? This is a very serious allegation if true.
Teddy Atlas said it best when he mentioned the judge who scored a draw should be blood tested to see what was in his system.
"I had it 117-112, Floyd winning the fight. The first thought I had is that judge should be blood tested to find out what he's taking .. whatever drug that he was on, the judge that had it even. That was not an even fight. I thought Floyd dominated down the stretch." -Teddy Atlas
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#40
Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
No GIANT conspiracy Scoots. Just a little money exchanged that's all. Happen's all the time. You might want to listen to this interview & read the deadspin article as well. Cheers!
Fixing fights is one thing, this is a completely other thing. For you to believe this to be true requires you to understand absolutely nothing of the underlying mechanics of the betting world.
If it were the books that were in on it, they would've elevated the line on Unan to a point where it would draw action, unfortunately it was only about 30 cents higher than straight up decision. If it were outside influences causing this fix, the not side would've taken heavy action, again raising the price on Unan, which in turn would've been hammered by the unknowing public. These movements were not occurring.
Please respond and continue to make yourself look stupid.
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SBR Lou
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08-02-07
37863
#41
Originally posted by homie1975
I had it 7-5 so 6-6 not a stretch at all
Just one other point on this. A lot of times people say, well I had it xx so a two round difference is conceivable. This is flawed logic. I do not believe that scoring this one round by round that there were enough 'swing' rounds in this fight to make a legitimate case for Maidana winning 6 of them. The most likely scenario is Maidana getting undeserved credit for punches that failed to hit their mark but pleased the crowd and may have looked like they landed. We do have the benefit of the best angles watching on TV like I believe raydog touched on. That being said, if anyone gave Maidana rounds with the realization that he was missing most of his shots but looked more active you scored your card incorrectly. Read a little bit about effective aggression and realize that clean shots are what score, and Floyd was extremely more accurate in his punch output and landed the crispest shots of the fight in most of the rounds.
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homie1975
SBR Posting Legend
12-24-13
15452
#42
Lou now that the fight adrenaline has worn off I agree 100% with what u just wrote. Maidana missed about 90% of his Haymaker s and what did land was not effective. I watched it agn and scored it a clear 8-4 for Floyd but one rd I gave to maidana could've been a draw so 8-3-1 is very plausible.
Love him or hate him, floyd is a once in a generation talent the likes of which we haven't seen in a long long time and may not again for a few decades
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Time is Money
SBR MVP
12-03-07
2255
#43
Originally posted by raydog
i had 116-112 ...as did my old man, who is much more experienced at scoring fights than any of us... the 114-114 wasnt corrupt and i didnt think the 117-111 was either... ... its just ridiculous how much more action you can see on tv... i would give the judges monitors in the future, so they can see it all from different angles... seems like guys win rounds by bull rushing guys into the ropes and throwing a lot of insignificant shit, that hits nothing but air or arms, and its enough to give them rounds... great fight... khan and broner looked good too
khan is the biggest bitch i've ever seen in gloves
the amount of holding arms and headlocking he was doing was pitiful and shows the state of boxing when he's one of the premier fighters in what's become an absolute joke
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ballahollic2
SBR Wise Guy
11-30-10
986
#44
Originally posted by Ron_Paul_2012
A lot of causal boxing fans here. The hardcore's have it scored 9 rounds Gayweather & 3 rounds to Maidana. 114-114 was just to bust the U Dec. prop bets. Childish wish thinking that Maidana won more than 3 or 4 rounds. End of story.
I would have to go back and look at the exact rounds but I had it 76-76 thru 8 rounds. I think 1,4,6 and 8 were all Maidana's. I thought Floyd won 2,3,5,7,9,10. 11 and 12 were pretty damn close IMO. I ended up scoring it 115-113 Mayweather but depending on how u score the early rounds + 11/12 its not inconceivable to score it a draw.
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#45
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
Fixing fights is one thing, this is a completely other thing. For you to believe this to be true requires you to understand absolutely nothing of the underlying mechanics of the betting world.
If it were the books that were in on it, they would've elevated the line on Unan to a point where it would draw action, unfortunately it was only about 30 cents higher than straight up decision. If it were outside influences causing this fix, the not side would've taken heavy action, again raising the price on Unan, which in turn would've been hammered by the unknowing public. These movements were not occurring.
Please respond and continue to make yourself look stupid.
Ron paul is right, your only digging yourself deeper nunya, listen to the experts
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SBR Lou
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08-02-07
37863
#46
Originally posted by Time is Money
khan is the biggest bitch i've ever seen in gloves
the amount of holding arms and headlocking he was doing was pitiful and shows the state of boxing when he's one of the premier fighters in what's become an absolute joke
What I was most impressed with was how strong he looked at 147. This is the guy that was hitting the canvas more than a WWE wrestler in his last few fights. I thought he looked strong, very well conditioned, fast, he's always been a decent boxer but most of all he kept his composure. Say what you will about his tactics, he was well in control of the fight throughout and if he wasn't issued stern warnings or being docked points then why adjust. I would have to watch the fight again but I don't remember him ever looking hurt; I'd like to see him in with a rematch against Danny Garcia at 147 since Garcia is supposed to be moving up. That fight makes a lot of sense.
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Thor4140
SBR Posting Legend
02-09-08
22296
#47
There is nothing here to say that hasn't been said before. The 114-114 score was the same reason Canilo got a 114-114. It wiped out all the unanimous decision win wager. This is where the books got their money and it is a lot of it plus the nitwits who took a shot at those odds just because of the odds. Floyd 8-4. Enuf said. He barely got hit again but if u like missed punches than u most likely had it a close fight. Pacman is the only guy out there that can challenge him and i doubt we will ever see it. A fast accurate lefty would be the only thing that would give Floyd problems. The problem with posters judging is they want Floyd to lose so bad that every close wrong goes to his opponent.
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#48
Originally posted by Thor4140
There is nothing here to say that hasn't been said before. The 114-114 score was the same reason Canilo got a 114-114. It wiped out all the unanimous decision win wager.
You're a moron.
Floyd not knocking down Maidana killed the Floyd knocks down Maidana wager. The books told him not to. Damn the millions of dollars on the line, there's 30k on one bet that we're going to scoop up. Cue Maniacal laughter.
Interesting that your stupid ass conspiracies are always stated after the fight is over.
Also, interesting that your conspiracies always involve the books paying off to get the results; which to my knowledge there has never been a fixed match where the books were anything but screwed in the process. That's the point, to beat the book. Why would the bookie need to fix the match to make 1 more % on it?
It's like the dumbasses who think online casinos are rigged. They don't have to rig it, it's already in their favor.
Ron paul is right, your only digging yourself deeper nunya, listen to the experts
I guess if I were a brokeass who lived with his mum, I'd think some percentage of 30k was worth risking your career over too.
But in the real world, that doesn't happen.
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MD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-31-12
9728
#50
Double standard, boys. You accuse a judge of trying to rob Mayweather and you're a genius; you accuse Mayweather of trying to rob a judge and you're a racist. You can't win in this world.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388179
#51
What killed boxing was fixing/corruption
It's where the MMA is headed also
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#52
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
I guess if I were a brokeass who lived with his mum, I'd think some percentage of 30k was worth risking your career over too.
But in the real world, that doesn't happen.
Resulting to insults now scoots?
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#53
Originally posted by marzwoody
Resulting to insults now scoots?
When haven't I, you scrawny oyster?
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#54
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
When haven't I, you scrawny oyster?
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#55
Cool hyperlink bro.
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19th Hole
SBR Posting Legend
03-22-09
18934
#56
Here's how I had it scored:
Mayweather's Payout
$14.815.00 per second
$888,889.00 per minute
$2,666,667.00 per round
$32 Million in 36 minutes
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#57
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
Cool hyperlink bro.
Do some simple research for once and you will realize your wrong. but its ok your ignorance about judging is expected and forgiven.
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#58
Originally posted by marzwoody
Do some simple research for once and you will realize your wrong. but its ok your ignorance about judging is expected and forgiven.
Link to evidence refuting anything I said? I'll ship $100 to your paypal account upon receipt. Or as you call it, 20 units.
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#59
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
Link to evidence refuting anything I said? I'll ship $100 to your paypal account upon receipt. Or as you call it, 20 units.
Ok then a large percentage of judges are extremely incompetent at there jobs no corruption whatsoever says professor nunya,
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NunyaBidness
SBR Hall of Famer
07-26-09
9345
#60
Originally posted by marzwoody
Ok then a large percentage of judges are extremely incompetent at there jobs no corruption whatsoever says professor nunya,
Read what I said, dumbass.
I never said boxing wasn't corrupt, it's very corrupt, fixed fights all the time, probably every week.
It's the specific type of fixing that is being discussed that is ludicrous. Paying off a judge to specifically score a fight a draw in order to kill exactly one tiny market prop bet. The idea is so ridiculous I can't believe anyone would argue it.
The three of you look like imbeciles here. I mean, christ, I know you love to disagree, but pick your battles to something within the realm of reason.
Consider this, it's somehow ridiculously easy to find a judge to score a fight a draw, which may net you $30k worth of profit, so then, why not pay off TWO judges to score the fight 115-113 for the +1000 dog, and pour money onto every site and vegas sportsbook. Why make $30k when you could make tens of millions?
But nope, the conspiracy is to kill that one prop bet.
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raydog
SBR Hall of Famer
11-07-07
6984
#62
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
You're a moron.
Floyd not knocking down Maidana killed the Floyd knocks down Maidana wager. The books told him not to. Damn the millions of dollars on the line, there's 30k on one bet that we're going to scoop up. Cue Maniacal laughter.
Interesting that your stupid ass conspiracies are always stated after the fight is over.
Also, interesting that your conspiracies always involve the books paying off to get the results; which to my knowledge there has never been a fixed match where the books were anything but screwed in the process. That's the point, to beat the book. Why would the bookie need to fix the match to make 1 more % on it?
It's like the dumbasses who think online casinos are rigged. They don't have to rig it, it's already in their favor.
i wish i had more hands so i facepalm you more than twice... floyd by unanimous was the largest play at a lot of books worldwide... boxing is incredibly corrupt... it was no surprise to anyone with a clue that there was a draw on the card and the squarest bet on the board lost...
floyd by unanimous was the largest play at a lot of books worldwide...
Citation please?
Originally posted by raydog
it was no surprise to anyone with a clue that there was a draw on the card and the squarest bet on the board lost...
Post your ticket of Not Floyd by unanimous, or even better, Floyd by majority decision. Don't have one? Just another 20/20 hindsighter?
Make sure you let me know tomorrow who covers in the portland game tonight.
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Vaughany
SBR Aristocracy
03-07-10
45563
#64
Hahha this is painful
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#65
Nunya has to be the dumbest "smart" person iv'e ever encountered. first he thought me and ron paul were the same person now he thinks there is no corruption in boxing.
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MD
SBR Hall of Famer
01-31-12
9728
#66
Originally posted by marzwoody
Nunya has to be the dumbest "smart" person iv'e ever encountered. first he thought me and ron paul were the same person now he thinks there is no corruption in boxing.
Jesus, you're incredibly stupid. He literally just replied to your post before you posted it.
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
Read what I said, dumbass. I never said boxing wasn't corrupt, it's very corrupt, fixed fights all the time, probably every week.
Ironic use of a facepalm image, jackass. Is it 2008 in Sunderland?
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#67
Originally posted by MD
Jesus, you're incredibly stupid. He literally just replied to your post before you posted it.
Ironic use of a facepalm image, jackass. Is it 2008 in Sunderland?
No but its Nunya's sausage party in your mouth it sounds like, how salty does his balls taste? Must suck to be so bad at betting on fights you have to rely on lord Nunya's input, in exchange for jumping to his defense like a good little manlet slave.
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Thor4140
SBR Posting Legend
02-09-08
22296
#68
Originally posted by NunyaBidness
You're a moron.
Floyd not knocking down Maidana killed the Floyd knocks down Maidana wager. The books told him not to. Damn the millions of dollars on the line, there's 30k on one bet that we're going to scoop up. Cue Maniacal laughter.
Interesting that your stupid ass conspiracies are always stated after the fight is over.
Also, interesting that your conspiracies always involve the books paying off to get the results; which to my knowledge there has never been a fixed match where the books were anything but screwed in the process. That's the point, to beat the book. Why would the bookie need to fix the match to make 1 more % on it?
It's like the dumbasses who think online casinos are rigged. They don't have to rig it, it's already in their favor.
look i understand these are ur hero's we have been over that. It isn't my fault u are a gullible nitwit who thinks a trillion dollar business is all on the up and up. To think people are this blind to score a fight 114-114 when they are supposed to do it for a living and don't have an agenda, i don't know what to say. Maybe change ur screen name to dumbyaBidness? Just a thought.
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Thor4140
SBR Posting Legend
02-09-08
22296
#69
Originally posted by raydog
i wish i had more hands so i facepalm you more than twice... floyd by unanimous was the largest play at a lot of books worldwide... boxing is incredibly corrupt... it was no surprise to anyone with a clue that there was a draw on the card and the squarest bet on the board lost...
Thank you Ray. This guy puts the N in Naive.
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marzwoody
SBR MVP
01-03-14
3902
#70
Don't bother Thor, this guy is very ignorant to how the world works. he would make a good citizen in north korea