Just confirmed ncaa basketball is rigged!

[EBDOGGN]

first off i want to say that what im about to tell you guys is 100% true. this conversation took place at my friends barbershop 7pm last night and I am still in complete shock.

I walked into my friends barbershop and saw an old neighborhood friend talking basketball with my barber. he happens to be a former starter on the kansas state basketball team.. Long story short , the terrell pryor convo came up and this dude starts yapping away how its no big thing and it happens everywhere.. then starts saying how late in the season he and 2 other starters took on about 3 offers of 3k+ to 'take it easy on a team".. When the cheating subject came up from my barber he mentioned he never agreed to tank a game, he says these dudes will tell them " go out there and do what you do but make sure ya'll dont run it past 14" or w.e the number was for the game.

We obv didnt hate on him or give him shit about it cause you gatta do what you gatta do. But danm, from a bettors perspective I dont know what to make of the whole thing.. Luckily I rarely bet a college game. I'm pretty sure pro's dont do this since they have the millions already and it just wouldnt be worth doing for a few $$$ but considering that most of these college students are dead broke its a win/win situation.

[saints7011]

nothin new...

[face]

yep, thinking of making only first half/first quarter bets on ncaa

[allabout the $$$]

is someone really gonna admit that in a public place not very smart if they do could bring some serious penalties if someone there got busted for something and wanted to trade up for a lesser sentence considering that the fbi would get involved

[thetrinity]

guy walks into a barbershop and admits to shaving points to basically complete strangers

[EBDOGGN]

he wasn't broadcasting this info. it was 4 of us and we all grew up 2together. doubt any of us will snitch on him for a lower sentence on our criminal activities.. lmao

[kmarinouofm]

wish this guy would stop giving up my secrets.. now i am gonna have to come after both of you for running your mouths..




we had an understanding...

[face]

no one cares if you win by 11 points or just 7, so why not make some cash. scary sport to bet on.

[MichaelWaters]

doesnt this just tell you to bet more +14 games then -14 games late in the season. yes i know someone from the +14 team could try to make it a 20 pt loss but if he goes 2-20 fg its more obvious

[koz-man]

as long as I'm the right side. who cares

[ACoochy]

guy walks into a barbershop and admits to shaving points to basically complete strangers

Youd be surprised that the more outlandish the claim the less ppl are inclined to believe it...Gotten myself outta a few sticky situations in life using this same ideology. Think of it as another form of calling the bluff :-)

[Br0nxer]

Cool story bro

No way its fukkin true. kansas st as we all know is big time d1 basketball. No way this kid walks into the barbershop and lets all this loose in front of everybody out loud. Total BS. Convo recorded or it never fukkin happened pal.

Not saying shaving points doesnt happen. Cause we all know it does. But this story is BS

[EBDOGGN]

its funny how ignorant people are.

[CarpeDime]

FWIW, here are all the games Kansas St has been a double-digit fave in the regular season in Feb or March since 2000:

02/23/05 Baylor W 80-69 L -13
02/10/07 Colorado W 78-59 W -16
02/17/07 Iowa St. W 65-47 W -10.5
02/09/08 Oklahoma St. W 82-61 W -11.5
02/06/08 Nebraska W 74-59 W -11
03/04/08 Colorado W 78-72 L -16
02/03/09 Iowa St. W 65-50 W -12
02/11/09 Texas Tech W 85-73 W -11.5
03/07/09 Colorado W 76-64 L -16
02/17/10 Nebraska W 91-87 L -14.5
02/13/10 Colorado W 68-51 W -15
03/06/10 Iowa St. L 82-85 (OT) L -15



7-5 ATS overall but 0-3 ATS in March

[Br0nxer]

Dont worry guy

We wont hold your attempt to look cool against you

I repeat. 0 chance this is true. 0.

Nothing to see here men. Move along. Just a fictitous story. Guy made a mistake. He didnt realize PT was full of sharps and we would see right thru this story.

[Brock Landers]

point shaving is cool!

[k13]

Lot of these guys fail at point shaving as they do classes.

The Boston College story is worth a read.

[mike1234]

Watch "The Gambler" - similar story that probably happens - but who knows

[dfberger23]

Story sounds like BS, doubt guy would talk about this in public. But of course some college basketball games are fixed. So many meaningless games that can be fixed.

FWIW, here are all the games Kansas St has been a double-digit fave in the regular season in Feb or March since 2000: 02/23/05 Baylor W 80-69 L -13 02/10/07 Colorado W 78-59 W -16 02/17/07 Iowa St. W 65-47 W -10.5 02/09/08 Oklahoma St. W 82-61 W -11.5 02/06/08 Nebraska W 74-59 W -11 03/04/08 Colorado W 78-72 L -16 02/03/09 Iowa St. W 65-50 W -12 02/11/09 Texas Tech W 85-73 W -11.5 03/07/09 Colorado W 76-64 L -16 02/17/10 Nebraska W 91-87 L -14.5 02/13/10 Colorado W 68-51 W -15 03/06/10 Iowa St. L 82-85 (OT) L -15 7-5 ATS overall but 0-3 ATS in March

How the fuk did you find these stats? That's some Elias Stats Bureau shit.

[SlickRick1382]

FWIW, here are all the games Kansas St has been a double-digit fave in the regular season in Feb or March since 2000: 02/23/05 Baylor W 80-69 L -13 02/10/07 Colorado W 78-59 W -16 02/17/07 Iowa St. W 65-47 W -10.5 02/09/08 Oklahoma St. W 82-61 W -11.5 02/06/08 Nebraska W 74-59 W -11 03/04/08 Colorado W 78-72 L -16 02/03/09 Iowa St. W 65-50 W -12 02/11/09 Texas Tech W 85-73 W -11.5 03/07/09 Colorado W 76-64 L -16 02/17/10 Nebraska W 91-87 L -14.5 02/13/10 Colorado W 68-51 W -15 03/06/10 Iowa St. L 82-85 (OT) L -15 7-5 ATS overall but 0-3 ATS in March

Not that I'm trying to give his story any credibility but that's a pretty interesting piece of info right there ....

Good detective work ....

[drfunkmaster]

[raydog]

you will find a few of these stories around....they are always from guys who werent good enough for the nba, yet want to feel important somehow and make up ridiculous shit like this story... it gives me a good laugh to hear what shit they make up, but gives me a bigger laugh to hear that complete idiots believe them.

boys, carpe knew those stats off the top of his head...didnt have to look that up anywhere...yes, he is that good

[MC PICKS]

Never lay double digit chalk, its easier to miss shots then it is to make em if you catch my drift.

[DrStale]

So overhearing some guy talking at a barbershop is now "confirmation"

If he puts it on his facebook page does that make it super confirmed?

[BernardMadoff]

Not sure if story is true, but why did you need to hear such to believe these kids take money, its been documented many times over that they do.

[CarpeDime]

Not sure if story is true, but why did you need to hear such to believe these kids take money, its been documented many times over that they do.

of course

I think "likelihood of point shaving" in college hoops is a legit handicapping factor, not as a play-on factor, but as a stay-off influencing factor

I remember seeing a graph from a somewhat famous study a few years ago where the curve of ATS results in college basketball was skewed in a way that you would expect it to be if there were not-insignificant point-shaving going on in big-spread games

[tokio]

Aint gonna lie, if I was playing college ball and some chump in a suit offered me $3K to not let the other team lose by 10, I'd do it.

[shockers02]

k-state is a shady program. never liked coach martin...doubt this happens everywhere

[CarpeDime]

k-state is a shady program. never liked coach martin...doubt this happens everywhere

yeah, "program shadiness" is another key component of handicapping point shaving likelihood, along with the line and game situation

pretty much the entire OVC I would give the max shadiness rating to

[scORRgasm]

Great story.

Can you tell it again?

[isotopes]

Thats why you don't bet meaningless games. I might be wrong, but the sports fan in me has me convinced that if you stick to teams that are in the national title hunt (i.e. top 25 and good major conference teams) or if you stick to in conference games in the bigger conferences such as the big east, acc, sec, etc. then the players wouldn't do this. I just can't imagine that a player from a big school with a storied basketball program such as Duke, UNC, Michigan State, Syracuse, Uconn, etc. would ever do this.

[riffraff24]

Of course this happens. And to the people saying "the guy would never admit this in public"...you'd be surprised how stupid some people are.

I believe it 100%

[bkeith12]

I believe it happened last night, Iowa State loss smells real fishy.

[Inkwell77]

Thats why you don't bet meaningless games. I might be wrong, but the sports fan in me has me convinced that if you stick to teams that are in the national title hunt (i.e. top 25 and good major conference teams) or if you stick to in conference games in the bigger conferences such as the big east, acc, sec, etc. then the players wouldn't do this. I just can't imagine that a player from a big school with a storied basketball program such as Duke, UNC, Michigan State, Syracuse, Uconn, etc. would ever do this.

If I remember correctly there was some controversy around a Syracuse game last year. Not sure if it ended up being true or not.

[Powderguy]

LOL, and I'm the reason the NBA lockout is still going on