what books have lines on spring training games?

**pimike** · 02-25-09, 02:56 AM

Good points

**pat venditto** · 02-25-09, 02:57 AM

Not true.

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 03:01 AM

which part?

**tullamore** · 02-25-09, 03:02 AM

Most of the mangers intentions for the game is public info before the game. Pitcher x is pitching for 2 innings, Pitcher y for 3, I think you maybe able to find some value if keep up on the day to day roster.

**Shortstop** · 02-25-09, 03:03 AM

I'm putting $5K on the Cleveland Indians tomorrow.

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 03:07 AM

Originally posted by tullamore

Most of the mangers intentions for the game is public info before the game. Pitcher x is pitching for 2 innings, Pitcher y for 3, I think you maybe able to find some value if keep up on the day to day roster.

problem is you need to know which players have worked out over the winter, and who didn't swing a bat...

certain pitchers are trying to develop a new pitch and are throwing them in crazy counts... some pitchers are only throwing fastballs all games... you need REALLY in depth info...and you can't get it very easy....

players pull out of games right before it starts, because they still have a sore hammy ect...

you have non-roster and single A players coming into the game or even starting....

10 times harder to get an edge

**Shortstop** · 02-25-09, 03:10 AM

Paralysis by over analysis.

**tullamore** · 02-25-09, 03:12 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

problem is you need to know which players have worked out over the winter, and who didn't swing a bat...

certain pitchers are trying to develop a new pitch and are throwing them in crazy counts... some pitchers are only throwing fastballs all games... you need REALLY in depth info...and you can't get it very easy....

players pull out of games right before it starts, because they still have a sore hammy ect...

you have non-roster and single A players coming into the game or even starting....

10 times harder to get an edge

I think if you follow a few teams you can figure this stuff out, I don't think you can cap every game. But if you follow a few teams closely, I think you may find some value with the lines. I know living in the Boston area there are reports constantly coming from Fort Myers about what is going on. The Boston Media I feel over does it with Spring Training coverage, but atleast you get a feel for the team.

**pimike** · 02-25-09, 03:14 AM

I know most games are no higher than 140 and they lose a lot. Take the dogs in spring training.

**Tsoprano** · 02-25-09, 03:14 AM

everything is a coinflip in gambling

nothing wrong with tossing a little action on an event

**pat venditto** · 02-25-09, 03:14 AM

shortstop u should have a 500k bankroll if you bet 5000 a game.

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 03:15 AM

just tell me how you get an edge? that would be better then any edge in a real game in the reg season....

how can you handicap baseball? you are an action junkie if you bet this stuff

more like no chance to do ANY analysis.... if anything take every dog blindly... maybe that would be profitable

too much left to chance

for instance tomorrow the pirates have NINE mother-fukers pitching... 1 inning each... all it takes is for one of those AA pitchers that suck anyways.... to give up 5 runs and your bet is screwed... and with pirate minor leaguers, you better beleive that the odds that 1/9 pitchers blows up is very very very very high... 3/9 prob will....

1 out of 9 is very very likely.... so take the phillies if you are really sick

**pat venditto** · 02-25-09, 03:16 AM

T chareston playing @ unc is a coinflip? Not everything is a coin flip.

**Shortstop** · 02-25-09, 03:19 AM

It's no sicker than betting on the Super Bowl.

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 03:23 AM

Originally posted by Shortstop

It's no sicker than betting on the Super Bowl.

shortstop are you even serious about this

you are comparing betting the first game of season that doesn't even count with players you've never heard of that don't care if they win or lose???????..... to betting a game that is the LAST game of the year, where you've been able to watch both teams for the entire year?

I think if you only had 1,000 dollars left to your name.... and you HAD to bet it on one game... you would pick the super bowl before you would pick some meaningless spring training game that could be a tie....

**Slim** · 02-25-09, 03:24 AM

Everything's a coinflip. You can't predict anything. A spring training game is just like last night's Pitt game.

**donjuan** · 02-25-09, 03:25 AM

talk about a true coin flip.....

Simply not true. If that were the case you would make a killing betting anything at +101 or higher.

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 03:29 AM

I recall the cubs last year, were like 10-15 at one point in spring training and all the radio sports call in shows, had people in a panic about the season.....

not sure if they had ONE 10-15 stretch during the regular season

by the way which books have spring training lines, no one told me

**Slim** · 02-25-09, 03:29 AM

SBR baseball lines aren't working.

**Shortstop** · 02-25-09, 03:29 AM

My 5 year old niece said the Cardinals will cover in the Super Bowl. Someone may have spent hours and hours researching and handicapping prior to the Super Bowl and came to the conclusion that Pittsburgh will cover the spread.

Who won the wager? My 5 year old niece.

**Tsoprano** · 02-25-09, 03:30 AM

Originally posted by Slim

Everything's a coinflip. You can't predict anything. A spring training game is just like last night's Pitt game.

agreed

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 03:34 AM

last spring the Phils were 12-18-1 and were outscored by a margin of 184 runs by 130 runs....

how did their season turn out?

**Shortstop** · 02-25-09, 03:36 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

last spring the Phils were 12-18-1 and were outscored by a margin of 184 runs by 130 runs....

how did their season turn out?

What does this have to do with betting on Spring Training games?

**Fiasco** · 02-25-09, 03:48 AM

I would think the better farm teams would have the advantage in spring training games

idk though...

I think you could see a profit by fading my braves but thats just me

**Shortstop** · 02-25-09, 04:06 AM

I thought the Braves would do pretty well this year.

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 07:35 AM

good times do bad in spring training, bad teams do good....... I'd take alot of dogs if I were betting Spring Training games, especially early when you have 9 pitchers throwing in a game...

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 09:38 AM

I had the kids at the school across the street make some picks on spring training games... I will be releasing them shortly

**BestPlay2day** · 02-25-09, 09:49 AM

There are a lot of onlines that will have spring training games to bet on. I wouldn't bet it today, but maybe after a week I'll start looking at some games.

Like to look at MLB.com as they will usually give the starting pitchers and sometimes who is scheduled to follow. Also, can see if they leave some good players home if a long road bus trip. Bet small for action, but there are times when you cap that you find good games to bet on.

**Brock Landers** · 02-25-09, 10:10 AM

Archie, one thing i always did when betting spring training, and this was about a week or so into it, was just look at the standings, the teams doing well tended to care and keep winning, while the teams doing bad, tended to not care and kept losing. No BS, there was one ST that florida was just a bad team tha season, but was like 20-5 in ST.

**pat venditto** · 02-25-09, 10:12 AM

brock with more meaningless bander.

**Brock Landers** · 02-25-09, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by pat venditto

brock with more meaningless bander.

that little tidbit i just gave was more meaningfull than 99.9% of the crap you post on here patty. But thanks!

**Bread** · 02-25-09, 10:16 AM

The Greek....to answer the original question. COME ON BASEBALL!!!!!!!!

**smitch124** · 02-25-09, 10:22 AM

5 Dimes, Matchbook, Bodog to name a few more

**Chi_archie** · 02-25-09, 11:29 AM

Originally posted by Brock Landers

that little tidbit i just gave was more meaningfull than 99.9% of the crap you post on here patty. But thanks!

might be meaningful advice.... but i'll just not bet any...

but you might be right about the teams' philosophies.... some just are looking to get some action in for the vets and evaluate some young guys while getting them some experience...

I know last year alot of "bad" teams had winning records in the spring, like oakland, S.F, texas, k.c, cincy, cleve ect

and good teams had horrible records like the Red sox, phillies, cubs, philly, dodgers..

maybe taking a big of Brock's advice and spot betting the "bad" dog teams that have a winning record in spring would be a profitable proposition..

I'm willing to pit the picks of the elementary school sharps and coin flips vs the sharpest baseball spring training handicapper here... for $50