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  • BetsandBeer
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    • 12-06-13
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    #36
    most pittsbuirgh area folks make minimum wage on slave labor cant afford to go to the game so see this guy kick a ball 5 times a game for a million dollars. thats the real shame
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    • Mase of Base
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      #37
      Originally posted by firedawg
      obviously you have never played the sport at any level above pee wee so you wouldn't know
      [QUOTE=firedawg;20571800]
      Originally posted by Rangers901

      its football....... shit happens
      These^

      I've had nearly the same thing happen to me playing rugby, kicked the ball away the opposing player didn't care and smashed me anyway blowing my shoulder out, didn't care then, don't care now that's sport. And to Rangers my friends and family (well not mum!) had a laugh about it and it still get's brought up every now and then.

      He can get a desk job if he doesn't like it I'll take his place.

      *Quote thing didn't work properly but those were both firedawg quotes.
      Last edited by Mase of Base; 12-16-13, 05:18 PM.
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      • El Nino
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        #38
        Led with the helmet, helmet to helmet contact. There was a great still shot last night of the helmet making contact with the Punter's jaw first. Dirty hit.
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        • firedawg
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          #39
          Originally posted by El Nino
          Led with the helmet, helmet to helmet contact. There was a great still shot last night of the helmet making contact with the Punter's jaw first. Dirty hit.
          they are asking guys to stop playing the way they were taught........... there was nothing wrong with the hit.
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          • bez
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            #40
            Originally posted by firedawg
            wasn't a cheap shot at all... punter was going down field to cover the punt... if he didn't want to get hit he should kick the fukkin ball and run to the sideline.. any of you minions ever heard of keep your head on a swivel?
            easily the stupidest, pardon my french, fukking thing i've ever heard in my life
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            • firedawg
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              #41
              Originally posted by bez
              easily the stupidest, pardon my french, penetrating thing i've ever heard in my life
              and you are clueless...
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              • firedawg
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                #42
                Originally posted by bez
                easily the stupidest, pardon my french, fukking thing i've ever heard in my life
                11 players on the field you dumb shit.... is the punter a player?
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                • Kermit
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                  #43
                  You don't get a broken jaw or broken neck without getting his in that region. It was a blatant helmet to the face.
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                  • Kermit
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by firedawg
                    do you realize how many hits like that occur every weekend? just because hes a punter doesn't give him a free pass..
                    No, can you give me a break down? I check the injury reports every week and haven't seen any broken jaws or broken necks on it yet.
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                    • Kermit
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                      #45
                      Originally posted by thebestthereis
                      This the nfl, it was a perfectly legal hit.
                      Then no fine or punishment will come then correct?
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                      • King Mayan
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Kermit
                        That hit that he took was a completely unnecessary helmet to face shot.
                        Fukking liberals.
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                        • DiCaprioHD1995
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by Bet10Heinekens
                          How long will his jaw be wire shut,
                          big puszy move going after 100lb flyweight punter
                          left you private message Bet10
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                          • El Nino
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by firedawg
                            they are asking guys to stop playing the way they were taught........... there was nothing wrong with the hit.
                            It was both illegal and dirty and he will be fined because of it. Yes, players have to ease up on their hits and slow things down so they are in more control. If they don't, it's only a matter of time before someone dies. You don't break a guy's jaw with a legal hit. He lowered his helmet and body at a 45 degree angle and directed his hit at the Punter's jaw/face. I get that you don't like it, but it was completely illegal.
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                            • bez
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by firedawg
                              and you are clueless...
                              Ya looks that way... apparently you're fukking blind as well
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                              • firedawg
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by bez
                                Ya looks that way... apparently you're fukking blind as well
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                                • Kermit
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                                  #51




                                  I have to admit, this was the first thing that popped into my head

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                                    #52
                                    Natural selection. The kickers that learn not to be looking the other way when a giant is coming at them will survive. Guys like this one, not so much.

                                    Kicker is a key position, if opposition coach is dumb enough to send a "dfenseless kicker" into a play where I can smash his ass legally, thats how Id coach my boys to play it.

                                    We'd soon be rid of "defenseless" players I think.
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                                    • firedawg
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                                      #53
                                      clean hit
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                                        #54
                                        Why isn't there more fist fights in NFL?

                                        That would sort out the cheap shot takers fast.... if they had to defend their shit the old fashioned way.
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                                        • Kermit
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                                          #55
                                          Also, I am pretty sure that a punter is considered a defenseless receiver during the entire duration of a punt or kick because they do not wear the padding and helmets that normal players wear.
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                                          • PAULYPOKER
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                                            #56
                                            If a player is about to make a saving tackle

                                            He or she is fair game of being taken out of the play

                                            Hence when the play is @ full speed

                                            There is no time to think of how you will block the player let alone know who the fukk he or she is,...

                                            Fair hit

                                            wrong place at wrong time

                                            that's football
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                                            • firedawg
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Kermit
                                              Also, I am pretty sure that a punter is considered a defenseless receiver during the entire duration of a punt or kick because they do not wear the padding and helmets that normal players wear.
                                              once again you show your ignorance
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                                              • Wilfred
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                                                #58
                                                ok the Kicker wasn't aware, but it's still a dirty hit. If it's clean it's one that we can all laugh about and the punter just gets the wind knocked out of him gets up and will be made fun of in film the next day. Guy put his helmet right under the chin, that's probably the worst thing you can do.
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                                                • RubberKettle
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                                                  #59
                                                  Serious injuries almost every game. Tons of concussions and life change injuries. Enjoy the nfl now cause it will likely be unrecognizable in 25 years. Diminished player pools and new rules regulating all tackles will decimate this sport.
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                                                  • Kermit
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by firedawg
                                                    once again you show your ignorance
                                                    I don't know what you're laughing at.

                                                    Steelers linebacker Terence Garvin blindsided Huber while Antonio Brown was running back Huber’s punt for a 67-yard touchdown. Huber was focused on Brown and didn’t see Garvin coming.

                                                    Garvin drove his helmet into Huber around his chin and broke his jaw. There was no penalty called on the play. However, according to Pro Football Talk, Garvin’s hit should have been flagged because it would be considered a hit on a defenseless player. Punters and kickers are always in that category, so it’s illegal to hit them with the helmet or from the neck up.
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                                                    • Kermit
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                                                      #61
                                                      Definition of a Defenseless player according to the NFL

                                                      (6) A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return;
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                                                      • King Mayan
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                                                        #62
                                                        Kermit didn't you start this thread last week

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                                                        Now you don't like this clean hit??
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                                                        • firedawg
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                                                          #63
                                                          you think a punter/kicker is off limits?
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                                                          • firedawg
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by Kermit
                                                            Definition of a Defenseless player according to the NFL

                                                            (6) A kicker/punter during the kick or during the return;
                                                            and that's why football isn't football anymore
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                                                            • Kermit
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by King Mayan
                                                              Kermit didn't you start this thread last week

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                                                              Now you don't like this clean hit??
                                                              A helmet to the jaw isn't a clean hit though. I have no issue with the punter getting leveled, but it was not a clean hit. Helmet to helmet is one thing, but helmet to unprotected jaw is another.
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                                                              • therocket
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                                                                #66
                                                                clean hit. head was up. too bad the punter didnt see it. Same thing happened to me covering a kick in freshman football 20 years ago.

                                                                Ive never been the same since.
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                                                                • Kermit
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by firedawg
                                                                  and that's why football isn't football anymore
                                                                  Yeah, but you have these guys out there playing in half of the padding and protection that the other players are wearing. Don't you think that gives then a slight disadvantage?
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                                                                  • firedawg
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                    Yeah, but you have these guys out there playing in half of the padding and protection that the other players are wearing. Don't you think that gives then a slight disadvantage?
                                                                    1/2 the padding?
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                                                                    • PAULYPOKER
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Garvin was a bad ass @ West VA as well

                                                                      http://Ryan Nassib takes massive hit...Terence Garvin
                                                                      “You Got Knocked the F*ck Out!”: Syracuse QB Ryan Nassib Takes ...

                                                                      Last edited by PAULYPOKER; 12-16-13, 06:25 PM.
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                                                                      • Mase of Base
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Kermit
                                                                        Yeah, but you have these guys out there playing in half of the padding and protection that the other players are wearing. Don't you think that gives then a slight disadvantage?
                                                                        Then do what firedawg mentioned and run off the field. If he could of he would laid that same hit on the returner, deserved to get drilled if he's going to try tackle the guy.

                                                                        Sucks it ended up helmet to helmet and the guy got hurt but I don't think it was intentional and shit happens.
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