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  • vasilli07
    SBR MVP
    • 05-08-11
    • 3955

    #106
    Originally posted by Big Bear
    Ivory Coast.

    Of they could play defense they would be legit.
    They are powerhouse only on paper. Their so-called golden generation have choked at all the african cup of nations and world cups that they went to.
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    • wikkidinsane
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 05-30-10
      • 13799

      #107
      iLL LIST THE BEST VALUES:

      Netherlands
      25/1 <input type="checkbox" value="17390150" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Netherlands to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;">
      Russia
      80/1
      Portugal
      28/1 <input type="checkbox" value="16594346" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Portugal to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;">

      Colombia
      28/1 <input type="checkbox" value="18485814" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Colombia to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;">


      Ivory Coast
      125/1 <input type="checkbox" value="16594194" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Ivory Coast to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;">


      Nigeria
      250/1 <input type="checkbox" value="16107839" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Nigeria to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;">

      Cameroon
      500/1 <input type="checkbox" value="16107842" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Cameroon to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;">
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82734

        #108
        I don't think people really understand how difficult is to win a World Cup. Has anyone done any research to see what were the odds on past winners? I'd bet no team with more than 10 to 1 odds has ever win it. Do your homework.
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        • wikkidinsane
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 05-30-10
          • 13799

          #109
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          I don't think people really understand how difficult is to win a World Cup. Has anyone done any research to see what were the odds on past winners? I'd bet no team with more than 10 to 1 odds has ever win it. Do your homework.

          Thats why we have odds.
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          • thetrinity
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-25-11
            • 22430

            #110
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            I don't think people really understand how difficult is to win a World Cup. Has anyone done any research to see what were the odds on past winners? I'd bet no team with more than 10 to 1 odds has ever win it. Do your homework.
            i think i remember seeing that uruguay in 1950 was the longest odds ever to win the world cup, ironically that was in brazil as well. its usually chalk, longshots dont even make the final.
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            • zizoudane10
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              • 03-27-12
              • 7272

              #111
              Originally posted by thetrinity
              i think i remember seeing that uruguay in 1950 was the longest odds ever to win the world cup, ironically that was in brazil as well. its usually chalk, longshots dont even make the final.
              It was the EM, but remember Greece 2004. 150:1 odds.
              Or the major upset 1954, when Germany did not only make the final, but also won against the best team ever.

              But: I agree, longshots have 0 chance this year.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82734

                #112
                Originally posted by zizoudane10
                It was the EM, but remember Greece 2004. 150:1 odds.
                Or the major upset 1954, when Germany did not only make the final, but also won against the best team ever.

                But: I agree, longshots have 0 chance this year.
                I know about Greece in Euro 2004 but the World Cup is a bigger tourney. You have 32 teams instead of 16 teams. You have teams travelling thousands of miles in other continents in unfamiliar weather or stadiums. There are many variables making it harder for a long shot to win the World Cup than the Euro.
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                • packerd_00
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-22-13
                  • 17804

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Big Bear
                  Ivory Coast.

                  Of they could play defense they would be legit.
                  They've not done much in the WC even with Drogba in his prime.I'd say Ghana is the best African Team.
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                  • RubberKettle
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                    • 12-28-09
                    • 6421

                    #114
                    Only 3 teams can win this world cup boys

                    Argentina
                    Brazil
                    Germany
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                    • wikkidinsane
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 05-30-10
                      • 13799

                      #115
                      Originally posted by RubberKettle
                      Only 3 teams can win this world cup boys

                      Argentina
                      Brazil
                      Germany
                      replace Germany with SPAIN
                      Germans have 0 chance
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                      • zizoudane10
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 03-27-12
                        • 7272

                        #116
                        Originally posted by wikkidinsane
                        replace Germany with SPAIN
                        Germans have 0 chance
                        Zero chance is bullshit. However, I am not happy with my team. Löw is a laughable idiot of a coach. Period.

                        Brazil
                        Spain
                        Italy
                        Germany

                        These are my 4, in that particular order. I don't like Italy as a team. And I hate the football they play. But they are hard to score against, and they are an experienced team that is able to show up at a tourney.
                        Brazil doesn't even have such a great team. However, this is their tourney, their country, and their Fans will push them big time.
                        Spain: They haven't lost one percent. Guys can say this again and again, doesn't make it true. Hard to score against when you don't have the ball, and they are easily good enough to put one in every game. Simple as that. Plus their coach is great.

                        Major upsets: I don't see any. France, Portugal, England can reach the semis with a lot of luck. And that's it. Argentina may reach the semis, but imo they have nothing. Lots of individual offensive weapons, no army though.
                        Chile is the team that might surprise us all with a deep run.
                        It isn't the time for Belgium now. Maybe in 2 years.
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                        • packerd_00
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-22-13
                          • 17804

                          #117
                          Originally posted by zizoudane10
                          Zero chance is bullshit. However, I am not happy with my team. Löw is a laughable idiot of a coach. Period.

                          Brazil
                          Spain
                          Italy
                          Germany

                          These are my 4, in that particular order. I don't like Italy as a team. And I hate the football they play. But they are hard to score against, and they are an experienced team that is able to show up at a tourney.
                          Brazil doesn't even have such a great team. However, this is their tourney, their country, and their Fans will push them big time.
                          Spain: They haven't lost one percent. Guys can say this again and again, doesn't make it true. Hard to score against when you don't have the ball, and they are easily good enough to put one in every game. Simple as that. Plus their coach is great.

                          Major upsets: I don't see any. France, Portugal, England can reach the semis with a lot of luck. And that's it. Argentina may reach the semis, but imo they have nothing. Lots of individual offensive weapons, no army though.
                          Chile is the team that might surprise us all with a deep run.
                          It isn't the time for Belgium now. Maybe in 2 years.
                          Argentina are always very overrated come WC time,I wasted money picking them in the past two WC
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                          • zizoudane10
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-27-12
                            • 7272

                            #118
                            Originally posted by packerd_00
                            Argentina are always very overrated come WC time,I wasted money picking them in the past two WC
                            Yep.
                            They have a slightly better chance this year, just because there will be lots of their own fans at the games, but other than that....
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                            • zizoudane10
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-27-12
                              • 7272

                              #119
                              Funny how I forgot Netherland btw
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                              • vasilli07
                                SBR MVP
                                • 05-08-11
                                • 3955

                                #120
                                Beside European and South American nations, which nation/nations do you guys think will have the highest chance of reaching the quarter-finals?
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                                • MakePwithMe
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 04-06-14
                                  • 547

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by vasilli07
                                  have the highest chance of reaching the quarter-finals?
                                  italy
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                                  • vasilli07
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-08-11
                                    • 3955

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by MakePwithMe
                                    italy
                                    Are you trying to tell me that Italy is not in Europe?
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                                    • zizoudane10
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-27-12
                                      • 7272

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by vasilli07
                                      Beside European and South American nations, which nation/nations do you guys think will have the highest chance of reaching the quarter-finals?
                                      Honestly? None.
                                      If I absolutely had to pick one from each continent I'd go with Ghana, Mexico/US (can't decide), Japan. Algerie might be a dark horse here, talented team...
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                                      • MakePwithMe
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 04-06-14
                                        • 547

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by vasilli07
                                        Are you trying to tell me that Italy is not in Europe?
                                        south korea hands down worth it

                                        easy group

                                        most adaptable to conditions

                                        less pressure

                                        actual up & coming talented players
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                                        • MoneyLineDawg
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-01-09
                                          • 13253

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by zizoudane10
                                          Honestly? None.
                                          If I absolutely had to pick one from each continent I'd go with Ghana, Mexico/US (can't decide), Japan. Algerie might be a dark horse here, talented team...
                                          US is better than Mexico but Mexico has a much easier road to qualify....I would also go with Ivory Coast over Ghana because Ghana is also part of the group of death....Plus Ivory Coast has a really impressive attack, on paper anyway
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                                          • zizoudane10
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 03-27-12
                                            • 7272

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                            US is better than Mexico but Mexico has a much easier road to qualify....I would also go with Ivory Coast over Ghana because Ghana is also part of the group of death....Plus Ivory Coast has a really impressive attack, on paper anyway
                                            I am not sold on Portugal, they tend to collapse under pressure, so I do see underdog chances for Ghana/US here. Mexico lacks killer instinct, but on a good day they might beat Croatia. Ivory Coast.... well, attack is good to great, yeah. Plus Yaya Toure is one of the best players of the world right now. But it's an extremely unbalanced team - their "worst" players are really way way way worse, than their "best" players. I don't see them passing the group. BUT; I agree, that their group is pretty well balanced. Colombia should be safe, but all other 3 have a shot.
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                                            • vasilli07
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 05-08-11
                                              • 3955

                                              #127
                                              I will be going with Nigeria. The only real strong team in their group is Argentina. They should be favs against Bosnia and Iran. If they qualify, they will face either France, Switzerland, Ecuador or Honduras.
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                                              • thetrinity
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-25-11
                                                • 22430

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by vasilli07
                                                I will be going with Nigeria. The only real strong team in their group is Argentina. They should be favs against Bosnia and Iran. If they qualify, they will face either France, Switzerland, Ecuador or Honduras.
                                                bosnia minus money to advance, nigeria plus money
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                                                • MoneyLineDawg
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 01-01-09
                                                  • 13253

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by zizoudane10
                                                  I am not sold on Portugal, they tend to collapse under pressure, so I do see underdog chances for Ghana/US here. Mexico lacks killer instinct, but on a good day they might beat Croatia. Ivory Coast.... well, attack is good to great, yeah. Plus Yaya Toure is one of the best players of the world right now. But it's an extremely unbalanced team - their "worst" players are really way way way worse, than their "best" players. I don't see them passing the group. BUT; I agree, that their group is pretty well balanced. Colombia should be safe, but all other 3 have a shot.
                                                  Can't really disagree with much here....I could easily see Ivory Coast/Colombia advancing but you're right that Greece and Japan could be in the mix as well....I really don't see Mexico advancing but Croatia and Cameroon don't impress me either

                                                  As far as Ghana/US....I also think one of them can definitely steal a spot but it's just hard to pinpoint either US or Ghana as the team that will get it done. If one of them does advance they could certainly make some noise and cause some teams some problems....I'm obviously a US Soccer Homer but I'm cautiously optimistic about our chances for some reason.....Just love the squad under Klinsmann as he has completely changed our culture/mindset and has added so much competition from within for every player
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                                                  • Big Bear
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 11-01-11
                                                    • 43253

                                                    #130
                                                    good stuff. You guys clearly know a lot about soccer.

                                                    i will be looking forward to your plays for the World Cup.
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                                                    • packerd_00
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-22-13
                                                      • 17804

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by zizoudane10
                                                      Yep.
                                                      They have a slightly better chance this year, just because there will be lots of their own fans at the games, but other than that....
                                                      If Messi doesn't show up to play they won't stand much of a chance.
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                                                      • packerd_00
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-22-13
                                                        • 17804

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by vasilli07
                                                        Beside European and South American nations, which nation/nations do you guys think will have the highest chance of reaching the quarter-finals?
                                                        I like Ghana and South Korea,Japan might surprise.
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                                                        • KalouKalou
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-14-11
                                                          • 1848

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by zizoudane10
                                                          Zero chance is bullshit. However, I am not happy with my team. Löw is a laughable idiot of a coach. Period.

                                                          Brazil
                                                          Spain
                                                          Italy
                                                          Germany

                                                          These are my 4, in that particular order. I don't like Italy as a team. And I hate the football they play. But they are hard to score against, and they are an experienced team that is able to show up at a tourney.
                                                          Brazil doesn't even have such a great team. However, this is their tourney, their country, and their Fans will push them big time.
                                                          Spain: They haven't lost one percent. Guys can say this again and again, doesn't make it true. Hard to score against when you don't have the ball, and they are easily good enough to put one in every game. Simple as that. Plus their coach is great.

                                                          Major upsets: I don't see any. France, Portugal, England can reach the semis with a lot of luck. And that's it. Argentina may reach the semis, but imo they have nothing. Lots of individual offensive weapons, no army though.
                                                          Chile is the team that might surprise us all with a deep run.
                                                          It isn't the time for Belgium now. Maybe in 2 years.

                                                          No chance for England, I don't think they will qualify from the group stage.
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                                                          • allang198
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 05-14-14
                                                            • 288

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by wikkidinsane
                                                            iLL LIST THE BEST VALUES:

                                                            Netherlands
                                                            25/1 <input value="17390150" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Netherlands to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;" type="checkbox">
                                                            Russia
                                                            80/1
                                                            Portugal
                                                            28/1 <input value="16594346" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Portugal to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;" type="checkbox">
                                                            Colombia
                                                            28/1 <input value="18485814" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Colombia to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;" type="checkbox">
                                                            Ivory Coast
                                                            125/1 <input value="16594194" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Ivory Coast to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;" type="checkbox">
                                                            Nigeria
                                                            250/1 <input value="16107839" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Nigeria to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;" type="checkbox">
                                                            Cameroon
                                                            500/1 <input value="16107842" name="lineID" title="Click to bet on Cameroon to win straight up" class="checkbox-pos" style="border-style: none; margin: 0px 1px 0px 2px; padding: 0px;" type="checkbox">

                                                            Value? I take it you are American?

                                                            None of these teams will win the world cup, not even come close
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                                                            • allang198
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 05-14-14
                                                              • 288

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                              i know besides spain no european nation has won outside the continent but this belgian squad is stacked from top to bottom. they could field 2 teams. its probably rigged for brazil to win at home considering they are only +310 to win it deespite having an average brazilian squad. belgium used to be a darkhorse but no longer are. they were once +2800 to win it now only +1400. probably end up not making it out of the group
                                                              Dont take this the wrong way mate but you dont have a clue!

                                                              Belgium have drew with Wales and Ivory Coast, Lost to Japan and Colombia in the last 6 months.

                                                              And you think they will win it?
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                                                              • caveira
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-07-11
                                                                • 532

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by zizoudane10
                                                                Yep.
                                                                They have a slightly better chance this year, just because there will be lots of their own fans at the games, but other than that....
                                                                Brazilians hate Argentines, no matter who they play, they will always have the fans against...
                                                                Brazilians will support Portugal and Italy (if Brazil is not playing).
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                                                                • Big Bear
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 11-01-11
                                                                  • 43253

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                  I don't think people really understand how difficult is to win a World Cup. Has anyone done any research to see what were the odds on past winners? I'd bet no team with more than 10 to 1 odds has ever win it. Do your homework.
                                                                  you are correct.

                                                                  Italy won it in 2006 but they were 17 to 2 odds i believe.
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                                                                  • SixFigures
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 05-28-14
                                                                    • 35

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Lol @ everyone forgetting about Uruguay. They made the semis in 2010 back when Suarez was with Ajax, Cavani with Palermo etc now they are all better + It's in South America... (but depends if Suarez is fit or not)

                                                                    Uruguay >>> Belgium
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                                                                    • Big Bear
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 11-01-11
                                                                      • 43253

                                                                      #139
                                                                      anybody like dis parlay

                                                                      America not to advance -310

                                                                      South Korea to advance +160

                                                                      Chile to advance -120

                                                                      risking $500 wins over 2K
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Not after seeing how south korea played against tunisia
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