SBRLines II ver 2.1 is now up!

**GJMike** · 10-06-05, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by ganchrow

As much as I love SBR Odds, and as little convinced of G&J's product's value as I currently remain, you still need accept the fact that SBR has a built-in 5 second delay between client updates. This means that even if SBR manages to get line changes a second faster than G&J (itself a highly dubious assumption) you would still on average see it a full 1.5 seconds more slowly.

As to the true import for the vast, vast majority of punters? I'd have to say de minimis.

You are correct, and I never mean any of this as negative to SBR. I met the guy in vegas and offered to help him with feeds if he so needed. I would love for these guys to succeed. The only problem I see with your post is that I believe the delay is 15 seconds, not 5. Although Smith can correct me if I am wrong.

**Ganchrow** · 10-06-05, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by GJMike

I believe the delay is 15 seconds, not 5.

As of the latest release, if the source is to be believed, it's 5 seconds. Line 23 of default.aspx, where pwTimer is created.

**GJMike** · 10-06-05, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by ganchrow

As of the latest release, if the source is to be believed, it's 5 seconds. Line 23 of default.aspx, where pwTimer is created.

ok, you are probably right... i havent looked. I just know it used to freeze up on me every 15 seconds.

also, one more note to smith. I think if you have sounds on, it will sound on a change for football, even if you are looking at baseball. So you search for the change and there isnt one.

**jjgold** · 10-06-05, 02:19 PM

that delay means ZERO in sports betting

this is not the stock market

Your lucky on a busy day to get 20 line changes at best in a 24hr period

Do the math

**GJMike** · 10-06-05, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

that delay means ZERO in sports betting

this is not the stock market

Your lucky on a busy day to get 20 line changes at best in a 24hr period

Do the math

I just checked archive table. It is at 12,000 changes today, and I dont exactly call today a *busy* day.

**jjgold** · 10-06-05, 03:46 PM

Mikey each game is lucky to change 5-7 times on an average

I am a pro at this

**tacomax** · 10-06-05, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Mikey each game is lucky to change 5-7 times on an average

I am a pro at this

You're not the pro - GJMike is the pro.

He's saying there are 12,000 line changes today. You say there should be 20 line changes today. Someone's talking BS - I know who my money's on.

**jjgold** · 10-06-05, 04:24 PM

Taxy so your going to pay money for service than you can get for free somewhere else and and the free serice is faster??

Taxy if Knicks move to -3 at Greek and then all the other books move to 3 I do not consider that all different line changes . Its the same change.

What I am saying is lines do not change that much in a 24 hr period and split second speed is useless. This is not wall street.

Taxy many lines do not move much all day and when they move it is a half a point or 1 the most but it akes 12 hrs or so to see the difference.

Liquidity is very very small in sports betting to see any "wall street" type changes.

The amateurs here is very laughable

**tacomax** · 10-06-05, 04:24 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

We appreciate your comments because we have a full time staff that wants to give you exactly what you want(sorry no lapdances though).

Looking excellent, John, especially now it's firefox-friendly.

One thing, though.

When I have it in firefox it updates every 10 seconds and flashes each time it refreshes (i.e. the lines disappear and then reappear). However, using it in IE it updates every 2-3 seconds without a flash.

**tacomax** · 10-06-05, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Taxy so your going to pay money for service than you can get for free somewhere else and and the free serice is faster??

I'm not saying I'm going to pay for any line service. Nor am I saying that one service is faster than another since I'm not subscribed to GJ to make that comparison. What I am saying that one person is saying there are 20 line moves a day, another person is saying there are 12,000. Someone's talking BS.

Aside from that, any my Firefox gripe, I'm loving the new SBR Odds.

**jjgold** · 10-06-05, 04:43 PM

Taxy I am not saying total changes

I am saying per each game there is not much fluctuation at all in a 24 hr period where you need to pay money for

**SBR_John** · 10-06-05, 04:47 PM

Thanks Taco. I'm going to get your Firefox comments on the board.

**Agent Smith** · 10-06-05, 06:15 PM

Mike - Thanks for all your supportive comments.

Just a quick objection, at one time we were at 15 second delay. However as you have pointed out we have moved to a more stable, much quicker component.

1. There should be no more locking of the web browser.
2. What you guys think is 5 seconds, is actually 500 milliseconds and that is equal to HALF a second delay. The truth is we are 2-3 seconds off real time. From the time we access the feed until the time the data is displayed on our grid is about 2 - 3 seconds.

Firefox still seems to be a problem. We will continue to work on that.

**Ganchrow** · 10-06-05, 06:23 PM

Originally posted by Agent Smith

What you guys think is 5 seconds, is actually 500 milliseconds and that is equal to HALF a second delay.

Whoops. Obviously you're right. Don't I look silly. Mea culpa.

**GJMike** · 10-07-05, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Agent Smith

Mike - Thanks for all your supportive comments.

Just a quick objection, at one time we were at 15 second delay. However as you have pointed out we have moved to a more stable, much quicker component.

1. There should be no more locking of the web browser.
2. What you guys think is 5 seconds, is actually 500 milliseconds and that is equal to HALF a second delay. The truth is we are 2-3 seconds off real time. From the time we access the feed until the time the data is displayed on our grid is about 2 - 3 seconds.

Firefox still seems to be a problem. We will continue to work on that.

Yea, I hadnt checked since the upgrade. I stated that. Keep up the good work. And take my comments as helpful hints. I only wish I had someone as picky as me to beta test out the bugs, G&J woulda been off to a faster start.

**InTheHole** · 03-20-09, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by GJMike

I wont lie. We actually did lose *1* guy to SBR. A recreational guy that didnt need all that G&JUpdate had to offer. I like the approach they are taking, its a great free service. Still need to fix that it freezes up my screen for a few seconds on every refresh, although them switching to DART seemed to help. As far as lowering our price, not going to happen. For what we offer our price cant be beat. As good as SBR is, a book or bookie still cant work off of it. And honestly, that day wont come.

Sounds like the President of IBM who allegedly said "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers"

**jjgold** · 03-20-09, 04:48 AM

SBR basically has bankrupted the whore shit G-J

Did anyone see that bubble gum software they use??

LOL!!! Plus they type the lines in themselves with some books and other they steal on the internet using scraping