SBRLines II ver 2.1 is now up!

**MAB** · 10-04-05, 10:40 PM

I can no longer see the SRB lines. They don't seem to want to load. Anyone else having this problem?

**freebie** · 10-04-05, 10:43 PM

seems like a DNS issue. sbrline not found.

another question, why isn't wsex.com on sbrline? Just curious

**onlooker** · 10-04-05, 10:45 PM

Ya, the lines arent loading now.

**Senator7** · 10-04-05, 10:46 PM

Having the same problem...

Senator 7

**SBR_John** · 10-04-05, 10:47 PM

Sorry guys... There are server upgrades going on tonight.

WSEX? Well, they bought a spot on SBRLines and gave it to Matchbook which I guess they own some percentage of. We are asking them to buy another spot but I'm not sure how that will play out. We would love to have them up there.

**freebie** · 10-04-05, 11:50 PM

SBR_John,
I would like to see wsex buy another spot on here too. Good for wsex players and good biz for SBR.

**bigboydan** · 10-05-05, 04:25 AM

john, will this service offer puck lines ?

**jjgold** · 10-05-05, 06:14 AM

wsex would be great

This product is great and the new upgrades make it even better. I will look more at it later with comments.

Nice Work

**SBR_John** · 10-05-05, 06:29 AM

puck lines?? It should. Agent Smith? Shmity worked overnight on the server upgrades, I'll get him to respond today.

**GJMike** · 10-05-05, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by SBR_John

puck lines?? It should. Agent Smith? Shmity worked overnight on the server upgrades, I'll get him to respond today.

WSEX would be an absolute nightmare for your programmers. They dont have a non-delayed feed and they dont use international rotation numbers. I am sure your boys could do it, but barely worth the hassle.

**Agent Smith** · 10-05-05, 11:04 AM

Yes, we have a few issues to attend to and then we will work on NHL and Shading best prices.

GJ Mike - I got to have them, even if I have to input them by hand.

**jjgold** · 10-05-05, 11:16 AM

Smitty your making a big turn around

Good Job

**GJMike** · 10-05-05, 02:48 PM

Originally posted by Agent Smith

Yes, we have a few issues to attend to and then we will work on NHL and Shading best prices.

GJ Mike - I got to have them, even if I have to input them by hand.

I just remember what we went through when we put them up. (eventually replaced them with matchbook also). Their Rotation numbers were crazy (although you can do some math on them to make them right), but even after you did that they were still delayed a minute on the XML, and 5 minutes on the text feed. So not an option for a live line service.

**jjgold** · 10-05-05, 04:12 PM

Mikey your in deep trouble with G-J not because you do not have a great product but because SBR's is free and offers same exact data and real time.

You will need to reduce price

AK · 10-05-05, 04:20 PM

Oops! We ran into some problems.

http://www.eog.com/forums/newreply.php?do=newreply&noquote=1&p=36086

Help needed SBR Odds staff

**Agent Smith** · 10-05-05, 04:31 PM

I guess I need to register,

Can anyone give me feedback on different browser types? How well does sbrlines work on your preferred browser?

**jjgold** · 10-05-05, 04:34 PM

Works fine with Explorer

Smitty I think you should make scores like Bold Dark Blue or something striking.

Smitty I think like you had before a divider/header if game on a different day than today

**Agent Smith** · 10-05-05, 04:34 PM

AK -

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AK · 10-05-05, 04:40 PM

Ok I'm lost

**Agent Smith** · 10-05-05, 04:44 PM

JJ, we are puting that back in. I really liked it too, but we had a bug to kill 1st.

As far as scores. I dont like the way they look at all. We have something super pimp we are working on. Just give us a little time.

**Agent Smith** · 10-05-05, 04:49 PM

sorry AK, im going to have to boycott EOG. It looks like a nice site, they must have a graphics team, so I dont understand why they stole my SBRlines graphics. We took the time to make nice logo graphics for each book and they snagged em.

:an_shake:

**GJMike** · 10-05-05, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Mikey your in deep trouble with G-J not because you do not have a great product but because SBR's is free and offers same exact data and real time.

You will need to reduce price

I wont lie. We actually did lose *1* guy to SBR. A recreational guy that didnt need all that G&JUpdate had to offer. I like the approach they are taking, its a great free service. Still need to fix that it freezes up my screen for a few seconds on every refresh, although them switching to DART seemed to help. As far as lowering our price, not going to happen. For what we offer our price cant be beat. As good as SBR is, a book or bookie still cant work off of it. And honestly, that day wont come.

**jjgold** · 10-05-05, 08:44 PM

Mikey why can't a bookie work off it??

They are real time

I am confused here

**Brick Tamland** · 10-05-05, 09:13 PM

Nice. We got openers.

Mike, maybe you can submit your application now?

**SBR_John** · 10-05-05, 09:45 PM

so I dont understand why they stole my SBRlines graphics

grrrrrr...
Well, I guess thats expected. SBR is copied by many many sites. But they should not outright take our copyrighted property. Check that the watermarks match and send them to our lawyer and they will be taken down.

**JoeOffsuit** · 10-05-05, 09:55 PM

I can't seem to load SBRLines either at the moment. By the way, I really like SBRLines, and I think it would be well worth it to add WSEX.

Thanks for everything about this site!

**SBR_John** · 10-05-05, 10:01 PM

JoeOffsuit,
They are working on the servers tonight so there will be a few glitches tonight. The lines will be faster when the the work has finished by tomorrow. I apologize for the down time.

AK · 10-05-05, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by SBR_John

grrrrrr...
Well, I guess thats expected. SBR is copied by many many sites. But they should not outright take our copyrighted property. Check that the watermarks match and send them to our lawyer and they will be taken down.

Don't Forget I asked for permission to use some of your content on bonusman.com

But if EOG did take content without permission I would get ahold of Ken ASAP and work something out.

**Ganchrow** · 10-06-05, 05:28 AM

Missing lines

Currently (6:25AM) lines have been up for some time on 5 Dimes and Pinnacle (and possibly some other books) for the Angels/Yankees game.

No lines are as of yet showing on SBR.

**jjgold** · 10-06-05, 06:12 AM

Ganchy there still getting bugs out

**Ganchrow** · 10-06-05, 06:23 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Ganchy there still getting bugs out

Just "kicking the tires" as John had asked.

**GJMike** · 10-06-05, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Mikey why can't a bookie work off it??

They are real time

I am confused here

I will be as constructive as possible with this. I know how it is to devote a lot of time to a line service, and the reward seldom is worth the time put in.

The reason a bookie cannot use this.

1.) The lines are inconsistent. Awhile ago I wasnt able to test this because the old version would freeze up my PC. Now that they moved over to a 3rd-party control the lag is a little better, but still freezes up if you are looking at a big board like ncaa f. What happens is during their refresh you get a 5 second freeze or so. (I am on a 6mb cable line so I dont think its on my end)

2.) Building off of the first problem, some of the lines will keep updating over and over, the same line will show up in pink or whatever, then go blue, then back to pink even though technically there wasnt an update.

3.) I think this is being added, but halftime lines, denoting when a game has started, 1H lines, Hockey, Misc Sports, etc will keep a book from being able to use this.

4.) Speed switching from sport to sport leaves some to be desired. I guess you could load a couple browsers at a time for the different sports and then just click on the different browser, but not sure how the lag or bandwidth would be affected.

Now, I state these things just to back up my argument. Right now I see SBR as the best free service there is out there. And to be honest, I dont see anyone topping them as far as free services go. Although we might build a lite version like this available on the web, we will charge. You may think its crazy, but if the market is out there, we might as well charge for it. granted it wont be anywhere near the $250 for our premium product, it wont be free either. So I really dont see SBR and GJUpdate as competitors. If I did I would not post any of this. Please take this constructively because you do have a great product, and if anyone can understand the work that is put into a product like this its me.

**jjgold** · 10-06-05, 11:23 AM

Mikey I have my fukkin finger on the ban button right now and will only take me 1.7 seconds to ban you and you can never post here again. I love the power!!!

Mikey once kinks worked out you and I will go $100 per line change to see who beats who and we will have an auditor (independant ) administer it.

This is easy cash for me.

**Ganchrow** · 10-06-05, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Mikey once kinks worked out you and I will go $100 per line change to see who beats who and we will have an auditor (independant ) administer it.

As much as I love SBR Odds, and as little convinced of G&J's product's value as I currently remain, you still need accept the fact that SBR has a built-in 5 second delay between client updates. This means that even if SBR manages to get line changes a second faster than G&J (itself a highly dubious assumption) you would still on average see it a full 1.5 seconds more slowly.

As to the true import for the vast, vast majority of punters? I'd have to say de minimis.