Let's get it out in the open - SBR Poker rigged?

[eberetta1]

I don't understand the connection.

Yisman, I hinted in thread #54 a future announcement, ' There is only one variable my poker software cannot control. I will announce it at a later time. '
Then in post #71 last paragraph I announced' Software cannot do a thing about it, except maybe lose the internet connection.
then I said quoted in thread #95 that one of the things I would do as a programmier
is lose the players connection if I rigged the software against a person.

I was playing later on at night after making that post and a person who wanted to bet
with any two cards was pissed because his internet connection froze when he wanted to
bet, and two 8's flopped on the board. You know what he had in his hand. An 8 and a face.

I did not get the print screen in time of the cards on the table, (I guess I could have gone into the hand history and printed the flopped hand) but I did get the print screen of the
Merge poker chat that he was pissed that he was not allowed in the hand. His chat is what struck me as funny. If
my software detects he has the best hand instead of letting him have his turn, I just have him lose his internet connection to my program and he has to relogin and losing blinds and antes until he gets back in.

[BigDeem5]

I get bad beated quite a bit, but I believe in 'variance'

[Ghenghis Kahn]

thing about losers. they only remember the times they lose.

people that think online poker is rigged just aren't good...

[yisman]

Yisman, I hinted in thread #54 a future announcement, ' There is only one variable my poker software cannot control. I will announce it at a later time. '
Then in post #71 last paragraph I announced' Software cannot do a thing about it, except maybe lose the internet connection.
then I said quoted in thread #95 that one of the things I would do as a programmier
is lose the players connection if I rigged the software against a person.

I was playing later on at night after making that post and a person who wanted to bet
with any two cards was pissed because his internet connection froze when he wanted to
bet, and two 8's flopped on the board. You know what he had in his hand. An 8 and a face.

I did not get the print screen in time of the cards on the table, (I guess I could have gone into the hand history and printed the flopped hand) but I did get the print screen of the
Merge poker chat that he was pissed that he was not allowed in the hand. His chat is what struck me as funny. If
my software detects he has the best hand instead of letting him have his turn, I just have him lose his internet connection to my program and he has to relogin and losing blinds and antes until he gets back in.

I see.

[SBR_John]

thing about losers. they only remember the times they lose.

people that think online poker is rigged just aren't good...

You nailed it.

Some expect to never lose hands where they have a 66% chance to win. But the math says you will lose 1 in 3 of these big leads. They remember the one and start singing the someone done did me wrong song.

[Inspirited]

all poker software is rigged
all sports games are fixed
all casino games are rigged

time to retire from gambling bros

[buyacka1]

All i know is I deposited 5 weeks ago and have gottien it in with [layers needing guts 4 flushers 2 otuers 1 outers etcect to win and hiting 90 plus percent when I made it to top 20 in tourney finished 98 percent on buttle with those type of beats. Betonline dosen't put you in correlaation of last blinds on tablre breaks i have been dragged blinded out from other tourneys so its a wonderfull site . Also it dosen't give you any rakeback only pops which driblle out in drips and drops.

[daneblazer]

Bump


So let's be honest here, nobody has near enough data to say whether or not SBR Poker is "rigged" in some way. All we have is snap shots of bad beats from various posters. Bad beats happen all the time. There may be 10 players who if they maintained a database could plug their data into a pivot table or spread sheet somehow to see if specific combinations of hands hold up the percentage of time they should. So throwing out the common sense notion that nobody has enough hands and there is absolutely no motive for SBR to rig anything, lets look at logical explanations.

1. Cognitive & Negative Bias. People tend to remember the bad worse than the good. It's a natural human survival mechanism. You can't remember the 3 hands you won as a favorite during the 3pm tournament yesterday, nor the time your JJ hit a set on the flop vs KK two days ago, but you can bet your ass you can remember the runner runner flush that knocked you out of the tournament from 14 weeks ago. You add all the bad memories vs forgetting all the good and it sure does seem like the software is "out to get you!"

2. The play here. I know everyone here sees themselves as Phil Galfond or Tom Dwan, including myself, but the fact is that the play on SBR is very novice. I've used tracking software to track the play here at times…you get a lot of 40+ vpip players in tournaments and 50-60+vpip players in cash games. That means the players play 40 to 60% of the hands that they are dealt. That's looser than your girlfriend after a night out with AutoDonk. You combine these stations and bad lags together on one table and you're going to see more "bad beats" because there are more hands played, more flops and showdowns seen, and often times more multi-way hands played. That's not even counting the amount of times someone butchers the hand by offering great calling odds and flat out checks down and "gets sucked out on". It's not variance when you play the hand poorly. Even the tight players vs lags and stations are going to get sucked out on fairly often here because there are more opportunities to do so. I know of one specific player here who has been called an employee, lucky, SBR favorite, maybe even a cheater…by multiple posters over the last 6-7 years. He plays super lag and gets in players heads causing them to dump off the rest of their chips then they create SBR is Rigged threads on the forum. He's probably the genesis of half the rigged threads. In the long run…the cream rises to the top. You play well, keep your cool, you're going to come out ahead. Particularly on SBR.

3. The amount of opportunities to play. You can go to a casino and play more hands in one day than you can in an entire week on SBR due to the 1 a day limitation. So when you run bad because of #2 above, it can get really bad in your head due to #1 above. There isn't much of an opportunity to make up ground by playing volume when you are running bad on SBR. And run bad happens…to everybody.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/poker/3302814-fk-you-rigged-poker-bs-p4.html#post26255754

[pavyracer]

I'd say it's not rigged but I believe that there are players that own software which lets them know opponents hands.

[bobbywaves]

but I believe that there are players that own software which lets them know opponents hands.

Name your suspects, as I want to download this software.

[sinmiedo]

I'd say it's not rigged but I believe that there are players that own software which lets them know opponents hands.

I know my opponents............................tha t is it.
Their hands are read by the way they play as you know, probably that may give you the feeling that you have.

[pavyracer]

Name your suspects, as I want to download this software.

Send me 10,000 points and I will email you the link to download the software.

[bobbywaves]

Send me 10,000 points and I will email you the link to download the software.

Sent.