Five Major League Baseball Players Who Haven't Made the Hall of Fame but Should

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  • Andy117
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-07-10
    • 9511

    #36
    [QUOTE=Mr KLC;16290260]
    Originally posted by Andy117
    Bagwell only gets in if the other steroid guys get in. And if you don't think Bagwell did roids you've never really looked at him.

    No legitimate proof. Nothing to see here.
    Fails the eyeball test. He has the look of a steroid guy, just didn't get named on any of the leaked reports. For a borderline guy that is not gonna help. So if Bagwell gets in does Delgado get in too?
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    • Chi_archie
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-22-08
      • 63168

      #37
      Bagwell got very very skinny shortly after his retirement
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      • Harry N. Lloyd
        SBR MVP
        • 03-26-08
        • 4810

        #38
        Pete Rose and Luis Tiante should be in. legends forever. The rest of the list? I'm not gonna shed any tears over guys who took the juice.
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        • rockaflocka
          SBR Sharp
          • 08-07-10
          • 482

          #39
          1. Vada Pinson

          2. Harold Baines

          3. Jim Kaat

          4. Dale Murphy

          5 A) Fred McGriff

          5 B) Lee Smith
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          • ttwarrior1
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 06-23-09
            • 28456

            #40
            dale murphy
            don mattingly
            dave parker belong
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            • TommieGunshot
              SBR MVP
              • 03-27-12
              • 1604

              #41
              It warms my heart to see that Jack Morris hasn't been mentioned. For some reason a lot of people like to pretend he was somehow good enough to be worthy of the Hall-of-Fame. Not really all that close

              Dave Kingman was paid to help his team win. And there are at least 100 players who helped their team more than he did who aren't in the Hall-of-Fame

              Jeff Bagwell is the best eligible player not in the Hall-of-Fame. Joe Torre should be in for what he did as a player and manager. Tim Raines (better than Murphy) deserves to be in. Dwight Evans was far better than Rice and Dawson and Perez.of Trammell is another good choice mentioned. Other than those few, none of the names listed exceed the standards set by the writers

              A lot of guys wouldn't be too horrible: Dick Allen, Minnie Minoso, Fred Lynn, Keith Hernandez, Murphy, Will Clark, Larry Walker, but at some point you have to understand that there will be a lot of very good players who weren't good enough

              Tommy John is close to being the best pitcher not in the Hall-of-Fame. I'll take Kevin Brown over him, though
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              • NYSportsGuy210
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-07-09
                • 11347

                #42
                Originally posted by robmpink
                Def Dale Murphy. Joey "Albert" Bell was a known cheat who corked his bat.
                Corked his bat? That guy had to be on steroids too.....it is so obvious.
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                • Andy117
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-07-10
                  • 9511

                  #43
                  Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                  dale murphy
                  don mattingly
                  dave parker belong
                  no
                  no
                  no

                  You start putting those types of guys in you're gonna double the size of the place in a few years. None of them were good enough for a long enough time.
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                  • daimoshokage
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-07-11
                    • 8935

                    #44
                    Pete Rose
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                    • Mr. Jones
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 09-02-05
                      • 942

                      #45
                      Can make at least some case for all these guys. Only a few mentioned above:

                      Norm Cash
                      Allie Reynolds
                      Jerry Koosman
                      Edgar Martinez
                      Vada Pinson
                      Luis Tiant
                      Andres Galaraga
                      Tim Raines
                      Ted Simmons
                      Kieth Hernandez
                      Lee Smith
                      Maury Wills
                      Ken Boyer

                      I have left Jack Morris off this list. Although he was the winningest pitcher of a decade, he's been on too many lists.

                      Kingman did provide a few cheap thrills at Wrigley when he hit balls through second flooor windows
                      of buildings across Waveland Avenue. At least once he hit, on the fly, the front porch of the second building on the north-south street that dead ends at Waveland. Jack Brickhouse almost shit his pants describing these feats. At the end of the day however, a few cheap thrills was all he ever provided though he did probably provide them roid free. So his inclusion in this discussion, while almost comical, is nevertheless colorful..
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                      • TallAzCrowe
                        SBR Sharp
                        • 05-02-09
                        • 299

                        #46
                        Larry Walker HOF worthy

                        He may make the Rockies HOF if there's such a thing.

                        Murphy absolutly should be in but only has 1yr left to make it, he's been on the ballot for 14yrs and you're only eligible for 15yrs. He should of went in with Larkin last year.

                        Tommy John is no longer on the ballot, his last chance to get in was in `09
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                        • Mr KLC
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 12-19-07
                          • 31097

                          #47
                          Originally posted by ttwarrior1
                          dale murphy
                          don mattingly
                          dave parker belong
                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Anytime I see Dave Parker now, it takes away a piece of my heart. For someone who once was so strong physically to have his body taken over by Parkinson’s Disease.<br><br>Induct this man into Cooperstown, while he can still be around to see it. <br> <a href="https://t.co/lXNDnaJqhg">pic.twitter.com/lXNDnaJqhg</a></p>&mdash; Jason Shetler (@Jason_Shetler) <a href="https://twitter.com/Jason_Shetler/status/1794470096850518174?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >May 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                          • Mr KLC
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                            • 12-19-07
                            • 31097

                            #48
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                            • mjsuax13
                              Moderator
                              • 03-14-15
                              • 25098

                              #49
                              Trammell is now in and Lou Whitaker should be too. Shame.
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                              • Yensel
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 02-09-24
                                • 73

                                #50
                                True That!
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                                • DrunkHorseplayer
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-15-10
                                  • 7719

                                  #51
                                  I loved Dave Kingman back in the day but he was virtually a one tool player; he's no HOFer.
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                                  • homie1975
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 12-24-13
                                    • 15452

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by no gnu taxes
                                    Dave Kingman

                                    Yeah, you say, he only hit some home runs. But that was all he was paid to do and he did it pretty damn well without steroids.

                                    Tommy John

                                    A damn good pittcher who barely failed to make it 300 wins. Yeah, he had a surgery named after him, but so what? Gehrig had a disease named after him and he still made it.

                                    Albert Belle

                                    The guy was a POS and had a limited longetivity. But he was a damn good hitter, ranking among the best.

                                    Pete Rose

                                    Get off his ass. He made some bets. No evidence at all he threw games.

                                    Jeff Bagwell

                                    I think he will eventually make the HOF, but it's a shame he didn't make it on the first ballot.
                                    none of them are HOFers for a reason.

                                    Pete?
                                    the rules were simple: bet on baseball in any way and you are out.
                                    he signed his own ban !!
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                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                      • 03-11-11
                                      • 29302

                                      #53
                                      Gary Sheffield

                                      I never hear anyone going to bat for Sheffield...I believe he should get in or at minimum be in the yearly conversation.
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                                      • mjsuax13
                                        Moderator
                                        • 03-14-15
                                        • 25098

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                        Gary Sheffield

                                        I never hear anyone going to bat for Sheffield...I believe he should get in or at minimum be in the yearly conversation.
                                        What a player he was. I enjoyed watching Sheffield play. Agree. There may be a ball he hit somewhere in space right now.
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                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                          • 03-11-11
                                          • 29302

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                          What a player he was. I enjoyed watching Sheffield play. Agree. There may be a ball he hit somewhere in space right now.
                                          If you look at his stats, he should be in. Many guys with way worse stats are in.

                                          .292 lifetime batting average
                                          .393 career OBP
                                          .907 OPS
                                          60.5 WAR
                                          509 Homers
                                          2689 hits
                                          1676 RBIs
                                          253 stolen bases

                                          Check out the latest Stats, Height, Weight, Position, Rookie Status & More of Gary Sheffield. Get info about his position, age, height, weight, draft status, bats, throws, school and more on Baseball-reference.com
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65591

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by mjsuax13
                                            Trammell is now in and Lou Whitaker should be too. Shame.

                                            Parish too.
                                            He was an elite catcher.
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