Five Major League Baseball Players Who Haven't Made the Hall of Fame but Should

Sam Odom · 10-06-12, 07:27 PM

Dale Murphy

robmpink · 10-06-12, 07:36 PM

Def Dale Murphy. Joey "Albert" Bell was a known cheat who corked his bat.

no gnu taxes · 10-06-12, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Dale Murphy

He hasn't made it? Boy, I remember a big bet I made with the Braves against the Mets in the late 80's when he hit a 3 run homer to tie the game. Well, I lost anyway. As a long time Astros fan, I remember him well. The Braves seemed to be the only team they could beat in those days.

CanuckG · 10-06-12, 07:39 PM

Hey GNU you take LSU again to cover?

robmpink · 10-06-12, 07:40 PM

Belle, good chance he was on roids. If I remember, he through a ball at a fans chest and hit him after being heckled during batting practice. He also hit some kids with his vehicle after they egged his house or something like that.

Sam Odom · 10-06-12, 07:41 PM

it is a travesty Murphy is absent from the HoF

no gnu taxes · 10-06-12, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by CanuckG

Hey GNU you take LSU again to cover?

Well. no.

You still waxing your carrot to skanky Madonna photos?

seaborneq · 10-06-12, 07:50 PM

Keith Hernandez and Darryl Strawberry

stevenash · 10-06-12, 08:04 PM

Rose will never get in because most of the writers hate him.
Rice was hated by the voters too, took him forever to get in.
Dale Murphy belongs, but so does Dwight Evans.

The only way Dave Kingman enters the Hall of Fame is with paid admission at the door like the rest of the tourists.
He struck out on the average 140 times a year, he only led the league in homers twice, never led the league in RBI, only drove in 100 RBI + in a season twice, that's it, twice in 16 seasons. Never drove in more that 118. Career .236 hitter, OBA .308 really ugly.

Couldn't hit for average, struck out way too much, beyond crappy OBA, one dimensional player, and when I think home run hitters that played with or against Kingman, I think Mike Schmidt, or George Foster, you know, sluggers like that.

Oh, not for nothing, Kingman was a total bastard on and off the field.

Kingman? Hall of Fame? You might want to rethink that.

MUHerd37 · 10-06-12, 08:09 PM

Fukk Albert Belle. Guy was a total piece of shit.

Chi_archie · 10-06-12, 08:13 PM

When is frank Thomas eligible? 2013 or 14? That guy will get in first ballot, lot of first ballot locks coming

BuddyBear · 10-06-12, 08:15 PM

LOL Dave Kingman in the HOF. I do not know what universe you live in that he would ever be considered seriously for the HOF. The only time the words Dave Kingman and Hall of Fame would go together would be to say "Dave Kingman does not belong in the Hall of Fame." Same with Albert Belle. He barely even qualifies for HOF consideration based on the rules in place for HOF candidacy. He was just a big slugger in an era filled with tons of them. Poor defender as well. Tommy John I am ambivalent and I just do not know enough to say. Rose and especially Bagwell definitely belong in though.

I would also add Alan Trammell to that list. Very underrated player who played the most difficult position and constantly put up good offensive and defensive numbers although they were, with few exceptional years, never off the charts or eye popping. Just a very consistent player that deserves to get in.

EmpireMaker · 10-06-12, 08:16 PM

they should make chipper wait a couple extra years

InTheDrink · 10-06-12, 08:20 PM

none of those guys belong except bags and maybe rose depending on how you view the gambling

this isnt the hall of very good

too many guys are in already who shouldnt be....guys like blyleven make it a joke

based on other guys who are in lee smith should be

no gnu taxes · 10-06-12, 08:33 PM

I would also add Alan Trammell to that list

Hard to disagree with you. He was clutch and consistent.

Andy117 · 10-06-12, 08:40 PM

Belle is interesting, his career is kinda similar to Ralph Kiner's (HOFer) in that he was dominant but didn't play for very long. The problem he has is that he was dick and a proven cheat. There'll be no one to rally for him to get in.

Carseller4 · 10-06-12, 10:12 PM

Only posting here because Dave Kingman was mentioned.

Guy made me a Cubs fan for life. (Is that a good thing?)

nic9212 · 10-07-12, 12:12 AM

Pete rose said he only bet on his team and not other team ever. No evidence he would throw a game to win a wager

Grits n' Gravy · 10-07-12, 12:15 AM

Rose is the only guy on your list deserving of HoF based on what he did on the field. The other guys are above average or juicers. I think Obama is keeping them out.

BAUS · 10-07-12, 12:17 AM

Fernando Vina would probably be opposed to Albert Belle being selected.

BAUS

BAUS · 10-07-12, 12:21 AM

Originally posted by nic9212

Pete rose said he only bet on his team and not other team ever. No evidence he would throw a game to win a wager

Even having action only on the Reds could have, and probably did impact his judgement. For example, winning today's game at all costs, with no regard to the game tomorrow, rest of series, health of pitchers, etc.

BAUS

Doc JS · 10-07-12, 08:12 AM

You lost all credibility for this thread when you started this list with Dave Kingman.

Only way Kingman gets into the HOF is to buy a ticket.

str · 10-07-12, 08:37 AM

Shoeless Joe Jackson: pretty sure he is not eligible

Dick (Richie) Allen

Gil Hodges

Larry Walker

Of course, Rose and Bagwell but Rose screwed up and Bagwell will eventually.

Kingman , Lol

JMobile · 10-07-12, 09:11 AM

So if Bagwell goes, does Craig Biggio go? The Killer B's!

Mr KLC · 10-07-12, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by JMobile

So if Bagwell goes, does Craig Biggio go? The Killer B's!

They'll both be in there before its all said and done.

DudleyDawson · 10-07-12, 10:32 AM

Originally posted by Mr KLC

They'll both be in there before its all said and done.

Both Bagwell and Biggio absolutely deserve to be in there...so did Byleven and look how long it took him to get in though.

Andy117 · 10-07-12, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by str

Shoeless Joe Jackson: pretty sure he is not eligible

Dick (Richie) Allen

Gil Hodges

Larry Walker

Of course, Rose and Bagwell but Rose screwed up and Bagwell will eventually.

Kingman , Lol

Bagwell only gets in if the other steroid guys get in. And if you don't think Bagwell did roids you've never really looked at him.
Before

After

milwaukee mike · 10-07-12, 10:35 AM

let's think of this objectively

if the hall of fame of major sports lets in these borderline players then what will it look like in 100 years?
it's already becoming too diluted

what about retiring jerseys? i've thought about that one also, keep retiring jerseys and 100 years from now there won't be any numbers left unless everyone switches to 3 digits

hard enough to remember people's number without having stuff like "now starting at guard, #548"

McBa1n · 10-07-12, 11:12 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Dale Murphy

This.

I still find it shocking that Dale Murphy isn't in yet. His prime, during that era, was pretty dang nasty. He was one of the best - and that's what the HOF is about...

Pete Rose should not ever get in due to asking people to pay for him to tell the truth decades after the fact. He had his chance so many times to come clean or even use a moment to capture fan pressure the HOF to let him in - and he did not.

ronald · 10-07-12, 11:13 AM

Jose Canseco should be in the HOF.

Ghenghis Kahn · 10-07-12, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

it is a travesty pete rose is absent from the HoF

fyp

Mr KLC · 10-07-12, 11:14 AM

[QUOTE=Andy117;16289704]Bagwell only gets in if the other steroid guys get in. And if you don't think Bagwell did roids you've never really looked at him.

No legitimate proof. Nothing to see here.

Ghenghis Kahn · 10-07-12, 11:16 AM

barry bonds

mark mcgwire

sammy sosa

jose canseco

brady anderson

(people forget, mark and sammy saved the major leagues...)

InTheDrink · 10-07-12, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by DudleyDawson

Both Bagwell and Biggio absolutely deserve to be in there...so did Byleven and look how long it took him to get in though.

blyleven was never even close to being an elite player when he was playing....he just played a long time

he's a fukkin joke being in the hall of fame

2x all star