Monday December 17, 2007 CHICAGO vs MINNESOTA

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  • hello
    SBR Rookie
    • 11-27-07
    • 24

    #1
    Monday December 17, 2007 CHICAGO vs MINNESOTA
    MINNESOTA (Home)-10.5
    OVER 43.5
    63
    CHICAGO
    0%
    14
    MINNESOTA (Home) -10.5
    0%
    24
    Over 43.5
    0%
    17
    Under
    0%
    8
  • Illusion
    Restricted User
    • 08-09-05
    • 25166

    #2
    I am leaning heavily towards the Vikings in this one.
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    • EGGY6199
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 09-05-07
      • 530

      #3
      WOW I am going to bet the Bears here. The Vikings are not that good.

      4-1 on the ML is a real price
      The Viks play in a dome don't they so the weather won't be a factor.... and the bears play real well away.

      Bears 4-1 1 units
      Bears +10.5 5 units
      Over 5 units
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      • jtnguyen79
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 09-26-07
        • 730

        #4
        all i know is vikings are much better than the sorry bears......worst mistake was getting rid of Thomas Jones for fumbling cedric benson


        go Vikings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What a sorry team that made superbowl last year........huge disappointment

        away record for Bears 3-4 that makes them play well?? 3-4 ATS away too while Minnesota is 4-2 at home and 4-2 ATS......I mean spread is a little high this week but come on chicago has given up already....this game will be similar to what Tampa Bay did to Atlanta on sunday.

        good luck everyone
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        • patsfan2727
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-28-07
          • 579

          #5
          uhhh?

          bigboydan voted for all 4 options.
          HE'S A GUARANTEED WINNER!
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          • HAPPY BOY
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-10-05
            • 7109

            #6
            Im never seen an NFL year with so many double digit lines. fvcking Nfl is turning into the ncaa with these spreads. Sad part is Im scared to take the points.
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            • buztah
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 03-23-07
              • 7470

              #7
              Happyboy, I hear ya. I just can't lay 10 1/2 and I can't trust ther bears with a 10 1/2 lead either. Pass.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82794

                #8
                Bears will not lose by double digits on MNF. I'll take the points any time. Line should have been -4 max. I don't know what Vegas is thinking here. These are the Vikings not the Pats. They are just an injury away from being awful. If Peterson or Jackson get hurt during the game they have noone to carry the load. Another bet I like is under. Teams that are looking to go into the playoffs play conservatively to just get the win.
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                • xxxvince
                  SBR MVP
                  • 12-17-07
                  • 2567

                  #9
                  just check vikings rushing yard record for this season and how much bears ranks in giving up rushing yards.

                  no brainer here.. vikings GO VIKINGS GOOOOO

                  spread is too high? who does bears have to score beside devin hester? plus with a new qb who loves to throw td.. second string rb.. AP CLONE.. one of the worse defense this year.. YEAH BOTTOM LOWER RANKED BEARS.. always been over rated.

                  GO VIKINGS GO!
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                  • babaoriley
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-11-06
                    • 2316

                    #10
                    6.5 point teaser sounds mighty nice here. Bears +17 and the Under of 49.5.
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                    • KCRams
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 12-17-07
                      • 18

                      #11
                      Best bet is...

                      Originally posted by buztah
                      Happyboy, I hear ya. I just can't lay 10 1/2 and I can't trust ther bears with a 10 1/2 lead either. Pass.
                      the OVER 43 as the Vikes are averaging as of late almost 35 pts per game and the Bears are giving up around 27 pts. I'm not real confident either way on the spread also, so I'll leave it alone.
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                      • Illusion
                        Restricted User
                        • 08-09-05
                        • 25166

                        #12
                        Nathan Vasher is expected to see his first action in 10 weeks for the Bears tonight.
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                        • pavyracer
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 04-12-07
                          • 82794

                          #13
                          Originally posted by xxxvince
                          just check vikings rushing yard record for this season and how much bears ranks in giving up rushing yards.

                          no brainer here.. vikings GO VIKINGS GOOOOO

                          spread is too high? who does bears have to score beside devin hester? plus with a new qb who loves to throw td.. second string rb.. AP CLONE.. one of the worse defense this year.. YEAH BOTTOM LOWER RANKED BEARS.. always been over rated.

                          GO VIKINGS GO!
                          When was the last time Bears lost with double digits in their own division kiddo?
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                          • cashflow50
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 01-23-07
                            • 140

                            #14
                            minny -6 1st half. money$$$$
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                            • buztah
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-23-07
                              • 7470

                              #15
                              OK, decided to go ahead and play this. I'm taking the under. I expect the Bears to put a lot of men up front with determination to stop the run. I think Smith will basically say to the Vikings that you will have to beat us in the air but not on the ground. I don't see the bears scoring a lot of points. 2 units on the under here. I am picturing a final score of 17-9 or so.
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                              • Bet Locks Only
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 12-01-07
                                • 84

                                #16
                                I like Vikings to cover 10 1/2 and the over at 43
                                I am teasing vikings -4 and over at 37 1/2 also
                                vikings to good last meeting peterson ran for 225 against a healthy bears defense know a banged up defense come on it is easy! vikings also get some defensive lineman back plus a cb back to make them even better! orton is good for at least 1 int and the vikings lead the nfl in pick 6's!
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                                • buztah
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-23-07
                                  • 7470

                                  #17
                                  Nothing is ever easy in this game. Don't be surprised if the Bears even win. Not probable but quite possible. This could be a dog fight if Lovy stuffs the box and forces the Vikes to rely on passing. I expect a relatively low scoring affair.
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                                  • Bet Locks Only
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 12-01-07
                                    • 84

                                    #18
                                    what you dont think they did that last time after peterson rushed for over 100 in the first half they did stuff the box and he came back in the 2nd half and rushed for over another 100! come on it is not just him it is there line they are very good at running and stopping the run! vikings in a blowout but i will not bet the over cause i think bears get shut out!
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                                    • jackpot269
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-24-07
                                      • 12842

                                      #19
                                      Bad day again yesterday no sense in missing out on another chance to lose some more money. That said Im on the viks big & thinking maybe on the over small . gl to everyone. Remember if you can not afford it don't play it.
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                                      • outdrawed
                                        SBR Sharp
                                        • 11-21-07
                                        • 388

                                        #20
                                        Bears and the under.
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                                        • ertl09
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-10-07
                                          • 1413

                                          #21
                                          did you guys forget about AP last week? This guy is human and you can't expect him to go +200 yards. Yeah I Know Minnesota is playing well but can you really take them for real? The only team I give them props for beating is San Diego. Look for Chicago to open up the playbook and let Orton pass it around, while on D the bears main focus will be stopping the run. The last time these 2 teams played the Viks won by 3 points, and AP ran for 200 + yds... and they still kept it close. MY prediction is that the Bears will keep it close if not have a shot to win this game. Also on the Under. Not a bad idea to tease it to +17 1/2 and under 49 1/2
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                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-17-07
                                            • 52143

                                            #22
                                            This one is easy fellas,

                                            Bears want to run the football and the vikes are the best in the league at stopping them. They will become one sided by throwing the ball way more then they want too. Vikes will pound the ball right at the Bears Defense which is just not any good any more. Then they will get some big plays Off PA after Chicago has to put 8 in the box. Also T Jackson will be able to scramble when needed , they will not be able to use B Urlacher as a spy on him, because L Smith will have him focused on AP and C Taylor all night.

                                            It's a ton a points to give to a divisional rival on a monday night however, and history would tell you to take this much points in a second. However as Happy Boy said this NFL year is different most high point spreads i ever seen. With all that being said IF YOU MUST MAKE A PLAY ON TONIGHTS GAME, lay the wood. Minnesota controls their own destiny, and Chicago has nothing to play for at this point. L Smith is evaluated talent as of now, and he is going to try some new things with some new personal to help them grow for next year.

                                            Minnesota 27 - 9 . . .
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                                            • Louisvillekid1
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-17-07
                                              • 52143

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by babaoriley
                                              6.5 point teaser sounds mighty nice here. Bears +17 and the Under of 49.5.

                                              Looks pretty good, however did you consider Minn - 4.5 and over 37?
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                                              • outdrawed
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 11-21-07
                                                • 388

                                                #24
                                                Stop with all this teaser talk, especially with teasing to 17.5, and the total. You are not 50% more likely to cover a spread teasing from 10.5 to 17.5 or teasing from 43 to 49.
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                                                • Bet Locks Only
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 12-01-07
                                                  • 84

                                                  #25
                                                  Fellows if the man him self says the vikings cover the 11 points i am going with him all day "that sounds nice doesnt it! by the way the man is brandon lang you might of heard the movie made about him "two for the money" and he is making a huge play on the vikings (about $400,000) so follow him! i got 2 G's on the vikings and i am down -8 units for the weekend! lang is gonna pull me out of the hole and some!
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                                                  • Bet Locks Only
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 12-01-07
                                                    • 84

                                                    #26
                                                    by the way vasher is questionable and that usually mean he is out! he did not practice friday!80% of time the player does not go!
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82794

                                                      #27
                                                      God told me Bears +10.5. I listened.
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                                                      • Bet Locks Only
                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                        • 12-01-07
                                                        • 84

                                                        #28
                                                        man you should not say shit like that you justed cursed yourself i cant believe you would say that have a good time losing!
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                                                        • outdrawed
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 11-21-07
                                                          • 388

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Bet Locks Only
                                                          man you should not say shit like that you justed cursed yourself i cant believe you would say that have a good time losing!
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                                                          • Dark Horse
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-14-05
                                                            • 13764

                                                            #30
                                                            My main angle for this game is 48-17 in favor of the dog.

                                                            This is choke city for the Vikings. So far they've played free of worries, carefree like young dogs. Not anymore. Tonight they face a Bears teams, with a solid QB (not much tape on the guy!), wondering why the hell they're a DD dog. Go back five years and see how often the Bears have lost ATS when dogged by 10 or more pts. This is Peterson hype, and he already had a great game against Chicago. Pride kicking in for the Bears.

                                                            Chicago +10.5 and CHI ML
                                                            Last edited by Dark Horse; 12-17-07, 05:11 PM.
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                                                            • jayz00
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 12-13-07
                                                              • 106

                                                              #31
                                                              All the books know that your coming for the vikes in this I see no value in the vikes -10 1/2......... I see it as me being priced out of it I like the over in this game.... If the vikes control this game wich they should. I cant see them care too much about giving up a few early or late 6 pointers to the crap bears offence... overs for me
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                                                              • outdrawed
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 11-21-07
                                                                • 388

                                                                #32
                                                                back five years and see how often the Bears have lost ATS when dogged by 10 or more pts.

                                                                6 times since 2002-03. 4-2 ATS. In other words, highly inconclusive and completely irrelevant.
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                                                                • Dark Horse
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 12-14-05
                                                                  • 13764

                                                                  #33
                                                                  First of all, the present group never got a dog tag of more than one TD in the last two years. They know tonight's spread, and will likely consider it an insult.

                                                                  Going back further:
                                                                  2004 at MIN (!): CHI +11 loses 22-27 (W)
                                                                  2003 at DEN: CHI +10.5 wins 19-10 (W)
                                                                  2003 at SEA: CHI +11 loses 17-24 (W)
                                                                  2002 at MIA: CHI +10 loses 9-27 (L)
                                                                  2002 at STL: CHI +10.5 loses 16-21 (W)

                                                                  Quite relevant, because it reflects on the team culture. Not a single ATS loss when dogged by more than 10 pts.
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                                                                  • LT Profits
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 10-27-06
                                                                    • 90963

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                    When was the last time Bears lost with double digits in their own division kiddo?
                                                                    3 of the last 5 times they played in Minnesota! 34-10, 24-13, 25-7.

                                                                    That said, the Bears ARE 4-1 ATS as double-digit underdogs.

                                                                    All of this aside, I am passing on this game. If I had a gun to my head, I would lean to Bears and Under, but I see better betting opportunities in other sports tonight.
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                                                                    • area51steve
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 06-01-07
                                                                      • 725

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                      First of all, the present group never got a dog tag of more than one TD in the last two years. They know tonight's spread, and will likely consider it an insult.

                                                                      Going back further:
                                                                      2004 at MIN (!): CHI +11 loses 22-27 (W)
                                                                      2003 at DEN: CHI +10.5 wins 19-10 (W)
                                                                      2003 at SEA: CHI +11 loses 17-24 (W)
                                                                      2002 at MIA: CHI +10 loses 9-27 (L)
                                                                      2002 at STL: CHI +10.5 loses 16-21 (W)

                                                                      Quite relevant, because it reflects on the team culture. Not a single ATS loss when dogged by more than 10 pts.
                                                                      Bears +11 easy money
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