Tom Couglin is an idiot....

**BuddyBear** · 12-02-07, 07:39 PM

Coughlin I mean....

**SBR Lou** · 12-02-07, 07:41 PM

That was absolutely ridiculous, and I was on the Giants and benefited from it.

**BuddyBear** · 12-02-07, 07:45 PM

It's almost as if these coaches like Gibbs and Coughlin have never coached before. Between them, there is like 50 years of coaching experience and they make bonehead decisions like this routinely.

What makes things worse is that we see this every week from different coaches.....Shannon last week kicking to Hester twice in critical situatins is another good example.

Remember when Mike Holmgren and SEA played NO on a Sunday night and down by 10 with like 4 and forever with about 1:?? left in the game he goes for it rather than kick the FG. It's that kind of stuff.....And he is a "hall of fame" coach too.

**seaborneq** · 12-02-07, 07:45 PM

All of us, including Caughlin knew that Rex was not going to do any harm in the most intense moments of a close game. No Brainer, if the opposin QB was ANY good Caughlin may have taken a knee, but because we all know what REX is capable of it is a non issue. Now really, did ANY of you think when Hester did not return the kickoff that the Bears would score a TD? Please.............save your self the embarrassment.

**BuddyBear** · 12-02-07, 07:47 PM

Ummm....seaborneq did you not watch the ending of the game????

Did you not see that CHC had 3 throws into the endzone at the end of the game. You have to be kidding me if you thought Coughlin did the right thing at the end of the game. That was horrible.

**seaborneq** · 12-02-07, 07:53 PM

Originally posted by BuddyBear

Ummm....seaborneq did you not watch the ending of the game????

Did you not see that CHC had 3 throws into the endzone at the end of the game. You have to be kidding me if you thought Coughlin did the right thing at the end of the game. That was horrible.

Read closely, there are 100 QB's who could have thrown the ball in the end zone from the 30, only Rex could do it and end everyone's hopes early.

**imgv94** · 12-02-07, 07:53 PM

Ok let's look at this again.

1st down 2yd line 1:37 left, kneel down ball to make Bears use only T.O run on 2nd down see if you can get TD if not you take clock down to about .45 secs. Third down try for the TD again if not take clock all the way to .5 secs or so and try a FG.

Instead he gives the Bears the ball with 1:33 left with one T.O

**UnseenMarine** · 12-02-07, 07:59 PM

I wagered on the Giants and the play help me in a cover, but you are correct. Coughlin allowed Chicago a chance to outright win at the end, when proper clock management would have ensure a game ending fieldgoal for the win. This will be the year he gets the Axe.

**matskralc** · 12-02-07, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by crazyl

That was absolutely ridiculous, and I was on the Giants and benefited from it.

Originally posted by imgv94

Ok let's look at this again.

1st down 2yd line 1:37 left, kneel down ball to make Bears use only T.O run on 2nd down see if you can get TD if not you take clock down to about .45 secs. Third down try for the TD again if not take clock all the way to .5 secs or so and try a FG.

Instead he gives the Bears the ball with 1:33 left with one T.O

What both of these gentlemen said. Coughlin's decision, while it made me money, was horrificly stupid and he's lucky it didn't backfire on him.

**Seattle Slew** · 12-02-07, 09:45 PM

I also benefited by taking N.Y., but the only thing I can think of was NY's kicker is awful and a wet field. Still, you have to milk the clock and kick the ball, it's only an extra point. If Chicago had 2 timeouts, different story. But with one, bad decision.

**idontlikerocks** · 12-03-07, 12:25 AM

i was wondering if chicago would let the giants score so they could get the ball back . i have seen this done once before. that coaching was sure piss poor .

**cobra_king** · 12-03-07, 03:30 AM

Tom Coughlin and horrible coaching decisions go hand and hand and it's been that way since his days in Jacksonville. It amazes me that coaches on this level have absolutely no idea how to manage a game as it winds down. A classic Coughlin story from his days in Jacksonville was when his team needed a FG from 25yrds out just before the half. What does he do? He stops the clock with 6 SECONDS on it. Not 4 seconds where the clock automatically winds down to zero no matter what the distance of the kick, but 6! What happens? FG made and the Jags kick the ball off and the other team returns it for a TD only to be flagged for an illegal block. Got him off the hook, but seriously, it's decisions like this that make you wonder how they ever got out of coaching Grade School football.

**Art Vandeleigh** · 12-03-07, 03:46 AM

Glad to see a bunch of people benefitting from Coughlin's bizarre decision. I had one of my TS middles going between Giants +3.5 and Bears +1.5, and I was so sure I had this game in the bag when the Giants got the first down on the 3 yard line with 1:37 left, that I already had my money spent.

All I can figure, assuming Coughlin's decision wasn't gambling related, was that he's seen enough special teams muck up last minute plays in his career that he preferred to see the points on the board, and give the privilege of winning the game to his defense.

But still....you got to figure a field goal from extra point distance was better than a 95% probability of being executed properly for the W, as opposed to giving the opposing team the ball with a minute and half + 1 time out + Mr. Hester....that probabilty had to be in the 15-20% range that the Bears could score a TD (and they came pretty close)...to give up so much percentage-wise....very very bizarre.