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  • mgcolby
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-19-07
    • 950

    #36
    Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
    I have no idea how you got all of this information
    Went throught the play-by-play on ESPN.com. I was working on it for another board, but felt it fit here.
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    • mgcolby
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 10-19-07
      • 950

      #37
      Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
      To sum my point up I just think the patriots are disrespecting the game. There is a time to stop and I hope brady gets hurt next time they blow a team out and leave him in there.
      But you are missing the point, Brady comes out when they have big leads and he comes out early. Which is why I asked my question should they take him out at halftime? Seriously the media is making this out to be more than it is. Or maybe most fans don't know that he came out early because of the score when they show the highlight of his last TD?

      But I can't recall any media hoopla over the Colts running up the score in 2004 and people calling for Manning to get injured.
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      • Mr Handicapable
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-23-07
        • 6067

        #38
        In response as a Indy fan and resident...I will admit they've left Manning in too often over the years but if they're up over 14 then they keep running the ball as much as possible. I've seen Dungy pass up atleast 7-8 field goals over the last 3 years and not even ATTEMPT a TD late by passing or running outside. Whatever NE wants to do is up to them but these guys are professionals and nobody wants to be embarrassed.
        The ONLY time the Colts have ever done anything close to 38-0 and passing for a TD in the 4th quarter was a game many years ago...pre-Dungy (I think?) with the Saints in New Orleans where Peyton threw 6 TDs against a overmatched defense. As far as these comments "If they don't want a beating then stop them"...these teams obviously can't but they won't forget either! Should a UFC fighter spit on or further humiliate a guy he knocks out? You need to respect the game and your opponent. Belechek is a low-life piece of shit which nobody can dispute that knows him! It's well known that he slept with a fellow coaches wife. What a wonderful leader!
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        • Mr Handicapable
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 09-23-07
          • 6067

          #39
          It's just a great rivalry between the Colts/Pats and I don't really care what the Pats do! I do love the Colts and everything we stand for! Dungy does things with class and we've beat the Pats 3 in a row doing things the right way. They may have brought in the right mercenaries to take it this year but I wouldn't want Randy Moss and his quitting...whining BS on my team in a million years! Rodney Harrison is widely regarded as one of the biggest cheapshot artists in the league as well. Go ask Trent Green what he thinks about him! Ruined Trent's shot with all that firepower that Kurt Warner utilized. How bout Willie McGinest faking a knee injury in Indy a few years back to work the clock. **** BeleCheat, Moss, Harrison, Pretty Boy and his babies momma too!!
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          • pokernut9999
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 07-25-07
            • 12757

            #40
            I quess Tenn should have tried and ran the score up on Texas last week. Then when their 32-7 lead in the 4th qtr was gone they would not have a needed a last second fg to win.
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            • mgcolby
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-19-07
              • 950

              #41
              Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
              In response as a Indy fan and resident...I will admit they've left Manning in too often over the years but if they're up over 14 then they keep running the ball as much as possible. I've seen Dungy pass up atleast 7-8 field goals over the last 3 years and not even ATTEMPT a TD late by passing or running outside. Whatever NE wants to do is up to them but these guys are professionals and nobody wants to be embarrassed.
              The ONLY time the Colts have ever done anything close to 38-0 and passing for a TD in the 4th quarter was a game many years ago...pre-Dungy (I think?) with the Saints in New Orleans where Peyton threw 6 TDs against a overmatched defense. As far as these comments "If they don't want a beating then stop them"...these teams obviously can't but they won't forget either! Should a UFC fighter spit on or further humiliate a guy he knocks out? You need to respect the game and your opponent. Belechek is a low-life piece of shit which nobody can dispute that knows him! It's well known that he slept with a fellow coaches wife. What a wonderful leader!
              You really should go through the play by play of these games. You can think Belichick is a POS, that is your right. And I don't know anything about him with another coach's wife either, that it is news to me and I would find it interesting to know where you got that from.

              Also your analogy is bad because in the UFC once you knock out the other guy the fight is over. NE the last two weeks had an entire half (Miami) and a quarter or better (Washington) to go with a large lead and Brady came out after one series against Miami and with 9 minutes to go against Washington, what should they have done differently?
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              • MJFtheGenius
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-31-07
                • 7257

                #42
                Originally posted by pokernut9999
                I quess Tenn should have tried and ran the score up on Texas last week. Then when their 32-7 lead in the 4th qtr was gone they would not have a needed a last second fg to win.
                I did not watch the game but im sure Houston was able to comeback due to poor special teams play from the Titans and the Titans proably turned it over a few times.
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                • mgcolby
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 10-19-07
                  • 950

                  #43
                  Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                  It's just a great rivalry between the Colts/Pats and I don't really care what the Pats do! I do love the Colts and everything we stand for! Dungy does things with class and we've beat the Pats 3 in a row doing things the right way. They may have brought in the right mercenaries to take it this year but I wouldn't want Randy Moss and his quitting...whining BS on my team in a million years! Rodney Harrison is widely regarded as one of the biggest cheapshot artists in the league as well. Go ask Trent Green what he thinks about him! Ruined Trent's shot with all that firepower that Kurt Warner utilized. How bout Willie McGinest faking a knee injury in Indy a few years back to work the clock. **** BeleCheat, Moss, Harrison, Pretty Boy and his babies momma too!!

                  Now you really are showing how your hatred has clouded your view.

                  Harrison the wife beater...that is ok because he plays for Dungy.

                  I'm sure Harper's wife stabbed him in the leg because he is to nice of a guy.

                  Polian running openly yelling in the press box during the 2004 game to "****ing break Fluties leg", slamming a Jet employee up against a wall because he didn't get his way, complaining to the league every chance he gets, piping in crowd noise...yup all class baby.

                  Should I keep going?
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                  • Mr Handicapable
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-23-07
                    • 6067

                    #44
                    I don't have the time (or the motivation?) to research play-by-play for the last 5 years...but since you do then find out more about Belechek...I think it was with the Browns where he stole another coaches wife! I just don't respect him as a person but as a competitor thats another story! This is as good as the D has ever played for Indy so if the Pats light us up for 40+ and kick our ass then 19-0 or 18-1 is a real possibility! Remember though...Peyton hung 32 second half points on this same aging D (except for Thomas/LB)!
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                    • pokernut9999
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-25-07
                      • 12757

                      #45
                      Indy has not played too many good offenses this year. The last 2 games were against teams with no QB.
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                      • Mr Handicapable
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-23-07
                        • 6067

                        #46
                        Harrison the wife beater...lol! What National Enquirer did you read that in? My ex works for the Colts and if she hasn't heard it then it didn't happen! There's a little difference between Polian yelling it and Rodney Harrison actually DOING IT in a preseason game no less! Dude you really do need to get a life!! I admit the Pats are smart, tough competitors and I would take Brady over Manning (Ouch that hurts!!) simply because of arm strength because Manning has never been much above average in that area. Don't get me started again on that piece of shit Moss again though. How can any real football fan defend him? It can't be done!! God please allow Bob Sanders to go Jack Tatum on Moss and turn him into the quivering pile of shit that he is! Trust me the Indy medical personnel will "accidently" drop the board they carry him off with! A guy can dream can't he?
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                        • mgcolby
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-19-07
                          • 950

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                          I don't have the time (or the motivation?) to research play-by-play for the last 5 years...but since you do then find out more about Belechek...I think it was with the Browns where he stole another coaches wife! I just don't respect him as a person but as a competitor thats another story! This is as good as the D has ever played for Indy so if the Pats light us up for 40+ and kick our ass then 19-0 or 18-1 is a real possibility! Remember though...Peyton hung 32 second half points on this same aging D (except for Thomas/LB)!

                          Nope, Seymour was out, Harrison was out, Sanders was out, Hawkins was out, Alexander was playing middle LB, they were down to our 4th and 5th string safeties in the 2nd half. Big difference from last year. And the aging thing is another myth (other than LB) Harrison is the only non-LB over 30 on the defense and his replacement is all ready game tested and ready to go. The LB's will always be "older", that is how Bill likes them.

                          It truly is amazing how myths gain traction, just like the "Pats don't have a running game" yet Sammy Morris put up back to back 100 yard games until he got hurt and Maroney (if he can stay healthy was racking up some yards early on). I could go on and on but you will see the running game next week.
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                          • mgcolby
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-19-07
                            • 950

                            #48
                            Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                            Harrison the wife beater...lol! What National Enquirer did you read that in? My ex works for the Colts and if she hasn't heard it then it didn't happen! There's a little difference between Polian yelling it and Rodney Harrison actually DOING IT in a preseason game no less! Dude you really do need to get a life!! I admit the Pats are smart, tough competitors and I would take Brady over Manning (Ouch that hurts!!) simply because of arm strength because Manning has never been much above average in that area. Don't get me started again on that piece of shit Moss again though. How can any real football fan defend him? It can't be done!! God please allow Bob Sanders to go Jack Tatum on Moss and turn him into the quivering pile of shit that he is! Trust me the Indy medical personnel will "accidently" drop the board they carry him off with! A guy can dream can't he?
                            Harrison was never part of a domestic dispute? I won't defend Moss and don't recall doing it. But telling another person on a message board to get a life is a little pathetic isn't it?
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                            • Mr Handicapable
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-23-07
                              • 6067

                              #49
                              Dude if you're going over play-by-play for 3-4 years then you just have more freetime than me...lol!! I think the only big player out last year was Harrison for the Pats but maybe you're right. I do know we abused the LBs with Dallas Clark and Bryan Fletcher and I doubt the fossils or 270 lb. Thomas is going to help in that area! We'll find out this week I guess!
                              I do know that if the Colts had to go get Moss, or T.O., or a Deion type to compete then I would struggle to stay on as a fan! GL...I'm done here for the night!!
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                              • Mr Handicapable
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-23-07
                                • 6067

                                #50
                                Got you on this one man!! Just looked up the box score from last years AFC Championship. Seymour, Hawkins, and Sanders all played! I thought so because I was there! GL to you. I respect your football knowledge and I'll see you again. If you see my NFL picks...try to read them...I'm having a VERY nice season. Cashed HUGE on the Pack tonite although it shouldn't have been that hard! See ya!
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                                • MJFtheGenius
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 05-31-07
                                  • 7257

                                  #51
                                  Whatever, Pats have no class whether you guys like it or not.
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                                  • louis
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-23-06
                                    • 763

                                    #52
                                    A lot of the run up in the score was Washington turnovers. And then they did sit Brady out near the end. But I am surprised the Pats did not play a more conservative strategy in the second half. The second half line, Pats -4 suggested they would. The next time the Pats cover the spread in the first half, and the second half line is about 1/3 of the first half line put some money on the Pats in the second half, especially those betting the Pats this coming weekend. The best line is probably going to be the second half line.

                                    I disagree that the Pats have no class. Usually there is parity in the NFL and the best team is not that much better than the second best team. This seems to be a rare exception this year. The best team, is substantially better than the other teams and blow outs are the result, we can't ask them to not play as well as they can.
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                                    • EGGY6199
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 09-05-07
                                      • 530

                                      #53
                                      What a load of poo. Of course you should score as many points as you can. Its pro sports and also as its American its more entertainment than anything.

                                      Plus I am a skins fan who thought we had a chance...back to pre season predictions
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                                      • Willie Bee
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 02-14-06
                                        • 15726

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by Tus
                                        This is F*ck*ng crazy people call themself procappers sh*t. If you are not 80% or better stop call yourself a pro,.... SHUT UP...
                                        Lighten up, Francis. Try to stay on course with the discussion here about whether or not the Patriots have any class and if whining and pitching a fit about it will really do any good or if it's just better to run down to your local voodoo supply store and buy set of Tom Brady and Bill Belichick dolls with some extra long pins. The if you can't cap at 80% then you're sh¡t thread is just down the hall a ways.
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                                        • MJFtheGenius
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 05-31-07
                                          • 7257

                                          #55
                                          Not even god can handicapp at 80%
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                                          • Doc JS
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 09-15-06
                                            • 6885

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Willie Bee
                                            Lighten up, Francis.
                                            WB,
                                            Great line from a great movie!!
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                                            • Mannheiser
                                              SBR Rookie
                                              • 10-23-07
                                              • 29

                                              #57
                                              How are the opposing teams handling the running up of the score? I really think it is their opinions that matter the most, especially the management and coaching staff. On the one side, we have all witnessed comebacks that should have never happened because teams have let up after a big lead. However, the patriots are reaching points in the game that should reflect good sportsmanship, but do not show it. I think coach's reactions, such as Gibbs, would show us if the Pats crossed an unspoken line or not.
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                                              • mgcolby
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 10-19-07
                                                • 950

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by Mr Handicapable
                                                Got you on this one man!! Just looked up the box score from last years AFC Championship. Seymour, Hawkins, and Sanders all played! I thought so because I was there! GL to you. I respect your football knowledge and I'll see you again. If you see my NFL picks...try to read them...I'm having a VERY nice season. Cashed HUGE on the Pack tonite although it shouldn't have been that hard! See ya!

                                                I was referring to the 2nd half of the game when they put up 32. Not the entire game. Sorry if I wasn't clear on that. And just to be clear they were in and out in the 2nd half but by the end of the 4th quarter we had Rashad Baker as one of our safeties.

                                                Not making excuses the Colts identified the weakness in the Defense (up the middle) and kicked the shit out of it. Manning played one of the best halves of football I have ever seen and our defense was unable to stop it. My only point is that this is not the same defense that faced Manning in the 2nd half of that game.

                                                And for the record I think it is very clear at this point, to everyone (or should be) that the Pats didn't need Moss to compete. Moss was a high reward, low risk deal, he has made the Offense better, but I don't think anyone expected him to play this good. By the time the Pats made this deal they already had Welker and Stallworth.

                                                Same here. Won about 4 units would have been five if that Left tackle didn't have two brain farts on that last drive. I guess I can blame Farve for throwing a heater when a little touch would have done just fine.
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                                                • mgcolby
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 10-19-07
                                                  • 950

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by MJFtheGenius
                                                  Whatever, Pats have no class whether you guys like it or not.

                                                  And the Cowboys do?? Patrick Crayton and TO have never met a microphone they didn't like.
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                                                  • swifty
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 02-22-06
                                                    • 672

                                                    #60
                                                    You all can kiss my Azz New England is the best team and all of new england teams got class this year.
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                                                    • regularguy
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 09-12-07
                                                      • 781

                                                      #61
                                                      You know what would be "classy?"

                                                      To beat Indy by 20+.
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                                                      • Redchevy
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 10-06-06
                                                        • 486

                                                        #62
                                                        They're going to beat them by 20+, make no mistake about it!!
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                                                        • mgcolby
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 10-19-07
                                                          • 950

                                                          #63
                                                          Gotta love that Cowboy's "Class", this from Patrick Crayton on NFL live about the Patriots.

                                                          "The sun shines on the dogs*ss every once in a while, perhaps that was their day to shine" - Patrick Crayton

                                                          All class baby!
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                                                          • SBR Lou
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-02-07
                                                            • 37863

                                                            #64
                                                            What do you want New England to do? Kick a field goal on 4th down to make it a 41-0 game? Or perhaps take a knee and return the ball to Washington? Or hand it off to the fullback and tell him to run sideways?

                                                            If you take a knee instead of run a play on 4th down that would either result in a TD/FG, and there is ample time left in the game, the other team can even get offended at that! Because it is sort of saying 'look, we're taking it easy on you hunny, we'll just take a knee and let you play'.
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                                                            • Redchevy
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 10-06-06
                                                              • 486

                                                              #65
                                                              I'm with you Crazy! WTF is it with these whiners?? You play to win and hopefully cover the spread. Are all these whiners betting the other way?? If they are, F " them, get on the right side. NE's 8-0 ATS, soon to be 9-0, after they kick the shit out of Indy! I don't get it?????
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                                                              • pokernut9999
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-25-07
                                                                • 12757

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Redchevy
                                                                I'm with you Crazy! WTF is it with these whiners?? You play to win and hopefully cover the spread. Are all these whiners betting the other way?? If they are, F " them, get on the right side. NE's 8-0 ATS, soon to be 9-0, after they kick the shit out of Indy! I don't get it?????
                                                                I think you are right on here !!!

                                                                Keep taking the points and losing. When they finally win betting against them they will boast even though they will be in the hole, and we will still be way ahead if and when they ever lose.
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                                                                • Crutch
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 09-18-07
                                                                  • 216

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by NEP Dynasty
                                                                  Wah Wah Wah. If you don't like the scoring, STOP THEM.
                                                                  totally agree
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                                                                  • Crutch
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 09-18-07
                                                                    • 216

                                                                    #68
                                                                    They are just getting practice and all that is doing is making them execute better, its not their fault the other team cant do anything about it
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                                                                    • rotty508
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 10-21-07
                                                                      • 10

                                                                      #69
                                                                      What about records? If Brady & the Pats are this good why should he/they fall short of making a new records because they have to pull back so they dont hurt the other teams feelings. Hell if i could make some god awful new TD record, or receptions or whatever you bet your ass i would. These guys are paid to do a job. Would your boss tell you to take 1/2 the day off if you did a great job before lunch. COME ON Let the guys play and just sit back and collect as they cover the spread WEEK BY WEEK BY WEEK
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                                                                      • buzzsawl
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 03-14-07
                                                                        • 91

                                                                        #70
                                                                        This is pro sports if you cant do better than that you get what you deserve.
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