Is Derek Rose a top 10 player?

**Pauulzcappin** · 01-22-11, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by demens

Jason Kidd was the best pg in the league for about a decade, and he couldn't hit a jump shot to save his life either. Feel sorry for whatever clown doesn't understand there is more to basketball then a jump shot.

Yea, I guess being 3rd all time on 3's made is called not being able to hit a jump shot. GTFO you idiot.

**demens** · 01-22-11, 06:07 PM

I guess someone is a 12 year old who never saw Jason Kidd play in the late 90s early 2000s.

**Pauulzcappin** · 01-22-11, 06:09 PM

You don't hit jump shots your whole career then you pop 1700+ 3's in the 2nd half of it, you are right guy!

**demens** · 01-22-11, 06:10 PM

Ask your dad, maybe he can tell you about the old days.

**Beatles** · 01-22-11, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by JOHON8

Sorry but that list is a joke. The fact that Melo is at #2 says enough about it.

Rose can easily fit into the top 5, how the hell do Duncan and Amare beat him out? No team can stop this kid, not Dallas, not Miami, not any of the best defensive teams in the league. Every otehr player on that list can get shut down in any given game. So how the hell does Rose not fit in the top 10?

Rose is certainly not as good as Stoudemire, as Stoudemire has taken the New York Knicks!! into contention for the playoffs single-handedly while the Bulls have lots of good pieces. Rose is defintely better than Duncan at this point in this careers. Rose is a great player but still needs to be able to draw more contact to really be put on the level of Durant, Stoudemire, Carmello, and guys like this. He has trouble drawing contact and doesn't get to the free throw line very much, which is something every dominate player knows how to do in the 4th quarter when they need to

**goldengreek** · 01-22-11, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by vyomguy

he is not top 10....i can easily name 10 other players better than him...he is not even in the top 5 PG's. Rose hasnt proven shiit. Come playoffs, we will see the choke job.

Not top 5 in PG 's ??

You are nuts

Derron Williams
Derrick Rose
Chris Paul
Westbrook
Nash
Rondo

**goldengreek** · 01-22-11, 06:21 PM

He us a top 5 point guard and a top 15-20 player.... who will be top 5-10 overall in a couple yrs

**Pauulzcappin** · 01-22-11, 06:21 PM

Rose this season has claimed the position of the 3rd best PG>

**rsnnh12** · 01-22-11, 06:22 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

You don't hit jump shots your whole career then you pop 1700+ 3's in the 2nd half of it, you are right guy!

From 1994-2000, Kidd had 1 season with 100+ 3s. Next highest was 73

From 1994-2004, he had 2 seasons (of 11) with better than 35% from 3. 1 of those he only played in 33 games. Ray Allen has NEVER shot below 35% in a season, just for a comparison

**Pauulzcappin** · 01-22-11, 06:29 PM

Hitting 73 3's in a year is hardly not being able to hit jumpers to save his life.

Rondo is a career 25%er from 3 point range, IE.

He has 50 3 pointers made in 5 years.

So just DO NOT COMPARE Jason Kidd to this guy.

**demens** · 01-22-11, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by rsnnh12

From 1994-2000, Kidd had 1 season with 100+ 3s. Next highest was 73

From 1994-2004, he had 2 seasons (of 11) with better than 35% from 3. 1 of those he only played in 33 games. Ray Allen has NEVER shot below 35% in a season, just for a comparison

Dont bother the guy will never get it, I'm sure the 1st time he saw Kidd play was for the Mavs. Everyone knows Kidd couldn't shoot, people even made fun of his jumper back in the day. FG% is also a reflection on how a player shoots, not just 3 pointers.

**goldengreek** · 01-22-11, 08:37 PM

Rondo the most over rated

**yisman** · 01-22-11, 08:40 PM

Derrick Rose is clearly a top 10 player.

**onlooker** · 01-22-11, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by goldengreek

Rondo the most over rated

Rondo shouldn't be in the top 10. He is however a assist machine.

**ANGRYBLACK** · 01-22-11, 09:13 PM

Rose is top 20.