Cannot win without the dominant big man and he is very dominant in middle
Kobe always won with a big time big man do not ever forget that
Holtgetsback
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4655
#2
spot on here , jjgolf
kobe didnt even make the playoffs without the big fella
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dwaechte
SBR Hall of Famer
08-27-07
5481
#3
I think it's beginning to become a legitimate discussion about who is more important to that team between him and Kobe.
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Mikail
SBR Posting Legend
07-19-09
21689
#4
Yes. Jj that is true. Gasol has cemented himself as a pertanent part of the Lakers. He could be a #1 on a lot of teams. Kobe knows this. Earlier this year Gasol was critical of Kobe on some of his floor decision making and Kobe didn't fire back because he needs Gasol.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#5
I never realized how good Gasol is and how long he is
Kobe is an all time great of course but I do not think he ever would of won without Shaq or Gasol
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AnotherLoan
SBR MVP
07-21-08
2225
#6
Gasol is the most skilled big man in the league. It's a joy to watch his variety of moves.
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Tree Rollins
SBR MVP
12-16-09
3968
#7
Gasol never even won a playoff game before he came to the Lakers.
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Bill Dozer
www.twitter.com/BillDozer
07-12-05
10894
#8
That's why there is no discussion needed on Kobe vs MJ IMO. Michael made the playoffs with Bill Cartwright and a bunch of other guys that aren't well known enough to make a trivial pursuit question card.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#9
Originally posted by Bill Dozer
That's why there is no discussion needed on Kobe vs MJ IMO. Michael made the playoffs with Bill Cartwright and a bunch of other guys that aren't well known enough to make a trivial pursuit question card.
Ok, so your saying Gasol is better than Pippen was.........ok, whatever.
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#10
Pippen was not even close to a superstar, Jordan made him
Gasol is 10x player Pippen was, you cannot beat height in NBA unless your MJ
MAGIC JOHNSON didn't even need a center, he just said F UCK IT, I will play CENTER and carry us to a championship...............
MAGIC, greatest point guard/center of all-time...........Lebron wishes he was 88% the player MAGIC was.
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Bill Dozer
www.twitter.com/BillDozer
07-12-05
10894
#12
Originally posted by Fishhead
Ok, so your saying Gasol is better than Pippen was.........ok, whatever.
No, the comment was about Kobe not making the playoffs without a center. You never head MJ complain he didnt have different guys he just made those guys rise up. Even on the crappy Wizards team he built as a GM where they missed by 2 games.
Sure, he had some greats with Rodman and Pippen but Pippen was not a good player early and before that...who are these guys?
40 Dave Corzine C 6-11 250 April 25, 1956 6 DePaul University
44 Quintin Dailey G 6-3 180 January 22, 1961 2 University of San Francisco
34 Chris Engler C 6-11 245 March 1, 1959 2 University of Wyoming
21 Sidney Green F-C 6-9 220 January 4, 1961 1 University of Nevada, Las Vegas
10 Dave Greenwood F-C 6-9 222 May 27, 1957 5 University of California, Los Angeles
22 Rod Higgins F-C 6-7 200 January 31, 1960 2 California State University, Fresno
32 Steve Johnson C-F 6-10 235 November 3, 1957 3 Oregon State University
27 Caldwell Jones C-F 6-11 217 August 4, 1950 11 Albany State University
13 Charles Jones F-C 6-9 215 April 3, 1957 1 Albany State University
23 Michael Jordan G-F 6-6 195 February 17, 1963 R University of North Carolina
1 Wes Matthews G 6-1 170 August 24, 1959 4 University of Wisconsin
33 Jawann Oldham C 7-0 215 July 4, 1957 4 Seattle University
3 Ennis Whatley G 6-3 177 August 11, 1962 1 University of Alabama
0 Orlando Woolridge F 6-9 215 December 16, 1959 3 University of Notre Dame
The yr after they added Charles Oakley as a rookie and Paxson. Year after that is was Brad Sellers and then the next year Pippen... as a rook.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82602
#13
You need 4 Cornerstones to build a successful team. Try to build a house with one Cornerstone and nothing on the other 3 corners and see what happens. It will fall down like a deck of cards when pushed.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#14
Originally posted by pavyracer
You need 4 Cornerstones to build a successful team. Try to build a house with one Cornerstone and nothing on the other 3 corners and see what happens. It will fall down like a deck of cards when pushed.
THANK YOU, a man of reason!
THANK YOU
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#15
Originally posted by Fishhead
MAGIC JOHNSON didn't even need a center, he just said F UCK IT, I will play CENTER and carry us to a championship...............
MAGIC, greatest point guard/center of all-time...........Lebron wishes he was 88% the player MAGIC was.
Best post by Fishler in ages. Magic Johnson was an unreal talent and his entry into the league was the beginning of the NBA revolution.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82602
#16
And to elaborate on the 4 cornerstones you need in basketball here is what you need: A coach, A GM, A Star, A Center.
All teams that won the NBA Championship the last 30 years have all these components in their teams.
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Fishhead
SBR Aristocracy
08-11-05
40179
#17
Originally posted by pavyracer
And to elaborate on the 4 cornerstones you need in basketball here is what you need: A coach, A GM, A Star, A Center.
All teams that won the NBA Championship the last 30 years have all these components in their teams.
Thought your buddy Dozier just stated the Bulls had no center........now you have me confused.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82602
#18
Then why did they have to sign up John Salley and Robert Parrish past their primes?
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gabit2000
SBR Rookie
05-08-10
9
#19
Without gasol kobe wouldn't be in LA
He would of got traded I know you all remember that period.
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MJT1212
SBR Hall of Famer
02-16-09
5124
#20
My groin is the cornerstone of something bigger than Gasol will ever be.
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Tree Rollins
SBR MVP
12-16-09
3968
#21
Originally posted by Bill Dozer
That's why there is no discussion needed on Kobe vs MJ IMO. Michael made the playoffs with Bill Cartwright and a bunch of other guys that aren't well known enough to make a trivial pursuit question card.
Didn't he play with Scottie Pippen? one of the best top 30 or so players of all time? Defense wins championships, and without Scottie, the Bulls aren't half as good defensively. Nobody could cover ground like he could. For a good part of the 90's, he was probably the 2nd or 3rd best all-around player in the league.
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gabit2000
SBR Rookie
05-08-10
9
#22
Originally posted by Fishhead
MAGIC JOHNSON didn't even need a center, he just said F UCK IT, I will play CENTER and carry us to a championship...............
MAGIC, greatest point guard/center of all-time...........Lebron wishes he was 88% the player MAGIC was.
Why just Lebron?
Matter of fact lebron isnt a center or point guard.
He makes you that mad huh?
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#23
Am I ever wrong???
RARELY
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jjgold
SBR Aristocracy
07-20-05
388185
#24
Man I know the NBA
The big man wins titles
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JMUplayer
SBR MVP
08-27-09
2765
#25
Gasol is one of the dirtiest players in the league.... but he's white/europeon and gets away with tons of shoves
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Holtgetsback
SBR MVP
01-04-10
4655
#26
Originally posted by jjgold
Man I know the NBA
The big man wins titles
Can't say I didn't agree
I win again
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bigsmitty
SBR MVP
04-12-10
3026
#27
Holy hell Gasol, take another dive...Man may make some shots, but he is an embarassment to sports. Get some guts and do what it takes to win. Cheers