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  • paco
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 05-07-09
    • 62873

    #36
    Goodluck bro.
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    • lyon804
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-02-09
      • 6526

      #37
      Originally posted by AzNDooM
      Funny how you noticed those trends and I have added those variables similar to Dexter's Autobets. You think like a trader in the sense that you ride the wave until it gets cold in addition you reassess the games based on each individual case by case, I like the way you mentioned those trends as those are the ones Ive actually picked up, example - GSW when at home, OVERS are a tendency, CHI at one stage when on road take if dog of +5 or more points (Now I would Fade CHICAGO under all circumstances till injuries are not so depleted) etc...

      In addition on how of changing gears, im assuming your using a poker anaysis standpoint as I noticed that as well. Its best to take both ends and assess which is the better situation, example - Public/Sharp bets etc...

      glad to see you see what I see and im glad im learning to have the visions as that is the hopes of what i hope to achieve after continually drilling these SBR Forums.

      ^^ - At least I know im in the right direction


      Thanks! Funny thing is I am a trader. I started at age 19 and got introduced to the market by a personal finance course I was taking at the time in college. I have read a multitude of books on technical analysis and have learned the market well over the years. I am short term trend swing trader. Which is to basically say that I hold my posistions for weeks sometimes months. I am not a day trader although I use to be, but I have found it more profitable and less time consuming to hold posistions longer.


      As far as Poker, I use to do that alot too before I got married with a child and it just can't be done anymore really since you need to be out of the house for long hours willing to "fight the fog" Poker is the easiest racket in the world and it's just a strict math game with odds and patience. Poker is all about choosing your opponent.. If you are one of the best players you know why sit down at the table with aother strong players? I sit down with people willing to donate and still play a few weekends out of the year. The game is easy for me and it's just about sticking it out and waiting and being patient. I am a tight player by nature, but will mix it up just enough so I can get paid off when it's time to flip up the nuts. When I am hot I play in a manner that suggest that I am loose and aggressive which is nothing more than a front to seek out callers. I will spend a few dolalrs for advertising bluffs and poor hands for people to underestimate me so in the end when everybody is tired and wanting to go home and get careless I can get it all in the pot and have the best of it. Bottomline, it's best to play with young cocky dudes than underestimate you. I like young cocky punks in Vegas that is playing with Mamma and Daddies dime. They are super aggressive and you can sit there and be patient and trap them fukks. I love when I have them by the balls and catch the flop hit my set and just trap all day... Check.check.. bet, come over the top, I'm all in!! A young punk doesn't have it in him to fold even when he has been told by the reraise he is beat. The pride and ego means more to them since it's not there money in the first place. Me, I am just the opposite. The money is all that matters when I sit down and it's just a long game to when I win. I am not trying to prove any points or be mancho at the table.. just, trying to get others players money.
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      • krazey47409
        Restricted User
        • 11-04-09
        • 2431

        #38
        shit im suprised to see you got me as number guess i been having some begginers luck but you left out one great capper this guy is cocky hes arrogant he's gutter but when he comes threw he's money in the bank they call him dopeman
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        • AzNDooM
          SBR MVP
          • 01-29-08
          • 1611

          #39
          Originally posted by lyon804
          Thanks! Funny thing is I am a trader. I started at age 19 and got introduced to the market by a personal finance course I was taking at the time in college. I have read a multitude of books on technical analysis and have learned the market well over the years. I am short term trend swing trader. Which is to basically say that I hold my posistions for weeks sometimes months. I am not a day trader although I use to be, but I have found it more profitable and less time consuming to hold posistions longer.


          As far as Poker, I use to do that alot too before I got married with a child and it just can't be done anymore really since you need to be out of the house for long hours willing to "fight the fog" Poker is the easiest racket in the world and it's just a strict math game with odds and patience. Poker is all about choosing your opponent.. If you are one of the best players you know why sit down at the table with aother strong players? I sit down with people willing to donate and still play a few weekends out of the year. The game is easy for me and it's just about sticking it out and waiting and being patient. I am a tight player by nature, but will mix it up just enough so I can get paid off when it's time to flip up the nuts. When I am hot I play in a manner that suggest that I am loose and aggressive which is nothing more than a front to seek out callers. I will spend a few dolalrs for advertising bluffs and poor hands for people to underestimate me so in the end when everybody is tired and wanting to go home and get careless I can get it all in the pot and have the best of it. Bottomline, it's best to play with young cocky dudes than underestimate you. I like young cocky punks in Vegas that is playing with Mamma and Daddies dime. They are super aggressive and you can sit there and be patient and trap them fukks. I love when I have them by the balls and catch the flop hit my set and just trap all day... Check.check.. bet, come over the top, I'm all in!! A young punk doesn't have it in him to fold even when he has been told by the reraise he is beat. The pride and ego means more to them since it's not there money in the first place. Me, I am just the opposite. The money is all that matters when I sit down and it's just a long game to when I win. I am not trying to prove any points or be mancho at the table.. just, trying to get others players money.
          Your technical and Theoretical insight is miles ahead of mine and your words of wisdom is well taken. It seems you've got your head screwed on and your a player I wouldnt want to play on a table with. (the other being KINGSR).
          At the end of the day, you and I have the same objective, its to see our ATM with $$$.

          Im riding the wave myself at this stage and im riding the cappers till they prove they are cold. Hence, why I started this thread... I have set a deviation for each capper on what there limit is when I start to question there technique. (guess in trading terms its a position of where you plan to sell).

          Im learning trading as we speak and im actually trying to get into it but the AUS market is a tough one to get into unless your willing to do the long yards. At this stage, im a small fish in a big big pond.
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          • AzNDooM
            SBR MVP
            • 01-29-08
            • 1611

            #40
            Originally posted by paco
            Goodluck bro.
            thanks PACo, if things go sour, ill start taking your routine of JACKing OFF in the morning to try to lighten things up LOLZ.
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            • shoebox
              Restricted User
              • 11-26-08
              • 5710

              #41
              Originally posted by krazey47409
              shit im suprised to see you got me as number guess i been having some begginers luck but you left out one great capper this guy is cocky hes arrogant he's gutter but when he comes threw he's money in the bank they call him dopeman



              this has to be a joke right?
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              • lyon804
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 11-02-09
                • 6526

                #42
                Originally posted by AzNDooM
                Your technical and Theoretical insight is miles ahead of mine and your words of wisdom is well taken. It seems you've got your head screwed on and your a player I wouldnt want to play on a table with. (the other being KINGSR).
                At the end of the day, you and I have the same objective, its to see our ATM with $$$.

                Im riding the wave myself at this stage and im riding the cappers till they prove they are cold. Hence, why I started this thread... I have set a deviation for each capper on what there limit is when I start to question there technique. (guess in trading terms its a position of where you plan to sell).

                Im learning trading as we speak and im actually trying to get into it but the AUS market is a tough one to get into unless your willing to do the long yards. At this stage, im a small fish in a big big pond.


                I don't play abroad markets, but it all the same. If you are strong chartist which is to say you are a techical analyst it doesn't matter the market. I like currency trading as well, but it drives me and my wife crazy because I won't go to bed. It never sleeps and neither do I. You can't go to sleep in the currency market if you have a posistion or you could wake up wiped out or wealthy. Ive done both, but the wiped out part stings a bit. Since you are trading so such high margin and leverage you could get wiped out easliy while you sleep.


                Play the US markets with an online account. Learn technical analysis and it doesn't matter the company name or what they do...The information is all in the charts. Kinda like sports wagering.. Alot of information is in the lines betting NBA if you can read it and the longer you are around the more you see and can pick up on.


                As far as poker goes... I am good enough to know what level I am playing with. I don't seek out other good players to play with. I am not looking to be a pro or improve my game. My game is good enough to beat 90% of the players out there 90% of the time. I have set down with other good players and it's just a boring stalemate. I once set down at a high altitude game with sharps waiting for tourist in Vegas and played for 8hrs straight and lost 31 dollars. The blinds were 50/100 and that was nothing. Those guys could see right threw my cards they were so good. I learned a few tricks, but made no money and wasted 8hrs. I am looking for people that are drinking and are young and cocky. I want to play with the young punks that think they are good. I want to play with the little puke that bluffs me off a small pot and then shows his hand as in show his ignorance. I never show a bluff if not called. I sometimes want to be called on my bluffs and show for advertisement after I lose a small hand. I love to be underestimated at the table. I always act like the donkey and when I win I always act surprised or I just got lucky. If you seem follish while taking other's money they will continue to reload to beat you if they think you are just a fish. My poker game is all an act that is just selling a story that i want others to believe... Problem with most poker players is this... The game doesn't start with them until they buy into it and get there chips at the table. The game with me never ends. I play the same game in life and anything else I do. All of what I told you is very profitable, but the bad thing is when you live it to the fullest you forget exactly who you are. Life is such a game I have forgotten who I really am and that's sad. Sometimes you are winning, but in the end you are really losing. I said all that to say it's bad to lose touch with who you really are. There are many sacrifices to be made to make it profitable in any venture that is not a standard way of life.
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                • shoebox
                  Restricted User
                  • 11-26-08
                  • 5710

                  #43
                  Originally posted by lyon804
                  Thanks! Funny thing is I am a trader. I started at age 19 and got introduced to the market by a personal finance course I was taking at the time in college. I have read a multitude of books on technical analysis and have learned the market well over the years. I am short term trend swing trader. Which is to basically say that I hold my posistions for weeks sometimes months. I am not a day trader although I use to be, but I have found it more profitable and less time consuming to hold posistions longer.


                  As far as Poker, I use to do that alot too before I got married with a child and it just can't be done anymore really since you need to be out of the house for long hours willing to "fight the fog" Poker is the easiest racket in the world and it's just a strict math game with odds and patience. Poker is all about choosing your opponent.. If you are one of the best players you know why sit down at the table with aother strong players? I sit down with people willing to donate and still play a few weekends out of the year. The game is easy for me and it's just about sticking it out and waiting and being patient. I am a tight player by nature, but will mix it up just enough so I can get paid off when it's time to flip up the nuts. When I am hot I play in a manner that suggest that I am loose and aggressive which is nothing more than a front to seek out callers. I will spend a few dolalrs for advertising bluffs and poor hands for people to underestimate me so in the end when everybody is tired and wanting to go home and get careless I can get it all in the pot and have the best of it. Bottomline, it's best to play with young cocky dudes than underestimate you. I like young cocky punks in Vegas that is playing with Mamma and Daddies dime. They are super aggressive and you can sit there and be patient and trap them fukks. I love when I have them by the balls and catch the flop hit my set and just trap all day... Check.check.. bet, come over the top, I'm all in!! A young punk doesn't have it in him to fold even when he has been told by the reraise he is beat. The pride and ego means more to them since it's not there money in the first place. Me, I am just the opposite. The money is all that matters when I sit down and it's just a long game to when I win. I am not trying to prove any points or be mancho at the table.. just, trying to get others players money.

                  I got played hard in Vegas by a poker pro. This guy was obnoxious and acted drunk as hell. When placing his bet he "accidentally"fell and pushed all his chips in the pot. Vegas rules state you cannot take back your bet even if he "fell" I was holding a pair of tens and called him thinking that he accidentally pushed his chips in. The friggin guy was holding pocket aces and i got drilled. I walked away
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                  • AzNDooM
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-29-08
                    • 1611

                    #44
                    Originally posted by shoebox



                    this has to be a joke right?
                    Ive seen this kid's thread and he seems to be legit and the real deal. The problem is I havent been proactively monitoring him. His picks look legit but the time stamps are off as im in Australia I have to add GMT time and some of the bets dont make any sense. At first glance, if you dont pay attention to it, he looks clean on records. Thus I have added him recently (as of today from my friend KINGSR) to see this kid in action.
                    At the moment, the track records I have are of active concurrent cappers who I know for a fact and read daily when they list the picks they have no edit changes etc...

                    But thanks for the recommendation. He looks like a hitting machine and I am not going to argue his style even though hes a thug to the bone. His methods look flawless at this stage.
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                    • shoebox
                      Restricted User
                      • 11-26-08
                      • 5710

                      #45
                      If you think acting like a ghetto thug and betting parlays every-night are flawless then so be it. What you guys will never get is how to withstand a cold streak, and thats why everyone will lose.
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                      • lyon804
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 11-02-09
                        • 6526

                        #46
                        Originally posted by shoebox
                        I got played hard in Vegas by a poker pro. This guy was obnoxious and acted drunk as hell. When placing his bet he "accidentally"fell and pushed all his chips in the pot. Vegas rules state you cannot take back your bet even if he "fell" I was holding a pair of tens and called him thinking that he accidentally pushed his chips in. The friggin guy was holding pocket aces and i got drilled. I walked away


                        Yea, that's really how it is. It's not about just who has the best hand. We all are gonna catch good hands time to time, but the trick is to get paid when holding the nuts and to get off losers and minimize loses when beat. The poker game is as much psycholgical skill is it is anytihng else. Knowing hand strength, positional strenght and other basics like pot odds can all be learned with average intelligence, but in order to tke your game to the next level you need to know how to tell stories without saying a word.
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                        • AzNDooM
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-29-08
                          • 1611

                          #47
                          Originally posted by shoebox
                          I got played hard in Vegas by a poker pro. This guy was obnoxious and acted drunk as hell. When placing his bet he "accidentally"fell and pushed all his chips in the pot. Vegas rules state you cannot take back your bet even if he "fell" I was holding a pair of tens and called him thinking that he accidentally pushed his chips in. The friggin guy was holding pocket aces and i got drilled. I walked away
                          10 10's are a tough hand to fold but they are the hardest to play. Those and JJ's if you ask me in my opinion. Although they are great hands to hit sets w/, you can easily get caught out w/ people with better hands. After experience, Ive learned JJ's are easy folds now but if you asked me in my young punk days, I would of gone all in etc....

                          but thats the learning experience. Tough luck on you Shoe and never underestimate the player.
                          The same goes in SBR, you see alot of trash talkers in here but some of them can walk the walk. You just gotta put away the attitude and look at what there results are. Example - Dopeman, he may sound like some G'd up thug whos ready to sell some crack and pull out a GAT on u any second, but the man has vision and according to some sources, hes the real deal.
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                          • shoebox
                            Restricted User
                            • 11-26-08
                            • 5710

                            #48
                            Not to mention the guy was arguing with the dealer to get his chips back, he played the whole table....that was just sick, I still havent gotten over that
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                            • shoebox
                              Restricted User
                              • 11-26-08
                              • 5710

                              #49
                              Originally posted by AzNDooM
                              10 10's are a tough hand to fold but they are the hardest to play. Those and JJ's if you ask me in my opinion. Although they are great hands to hit sets w/, you can easily get caught out w/ people with better hands. After experience, Ive learned JJ's are easy folds now but if you asked me in my young punk days, I would of gone all in etc....

                              but thats the learning experience. Tough luck on you Shoe and never underestimate the player.
                              The same goes in SBR, you see alot of trash talkers in here but some of them can walk the walk. You just gotta put away the attitude and look at what there results are. Example - Dopeman, he may sound like some G'd up thug whos ready to sell some crack and pull out a GAT on u any second, but the man has vision and according to some sources, hes the real deal.

                              I have seen hundreds of so called "real deal" cappers go on 60-80% runs, once they go cold they disappear and create a ghost account. Shappy I still haven't forgot about you . A very small percent of you guys will ever understand this
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                              • lyon804
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 11-02-09
                                • 6526

                                #50
                                Originally posted by shoebox
                                Not to mention the guy was arguing with the dealer to get his chips back, he played the whole table....that was just sick, I still havent gotten over that
                                Guy knew what he was doing. What else can you say? We all pay for lessons in life and he gave you one. I have never taken it that far, but there are other things that have the saem effect on people. Me, for one I never drink alcohol at the table so that wouldn't work. There is no limit to the act, but it is only a good act if it doesn't seem like an act.


                                I did a similar act in a "friendly home game" one time were I really got over good on the whole table and was lucky to leave without getting my ass whipped. None of these guys were my friends, but they were all buddies and lived in nice home and drove nice cars. They had money, but was drinking and offered alcohol to me earlier, but I did not accept. I was invited to the game by another friend who was invited and ask if it was alright if I come to the game and they didn't know me, but said sure. I don't know what it was about that nite or my demeaner, but the place erupted when I threw up a some rags that turned into the nuts. Fortunately, my friend was there and he kinda defused the situation and was able to leave with my money without any bruises or broken bones.
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                                • krazey47409
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 11-04-09
                                  • 2431

                                  #51
                                  ill just be watching dopeman come threw with money thinking if i couldnt make profit with my own picks i deff try tailing him even though hes a cocky ass thug ***** i dont discriminate but just trying to get my money up need 250$ to grab a wheel gotta make 150$ within next couple weeks and ill have enuff for a 250$ payout n still have 2 bills in account caus i all ready took out 2 bills last week
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                                  • shoebox
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 11-26-08
                                    • 5710

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by krazey47409
                                    ill just be watching dopeman come threw with money thinking if i couldnt make profit with my own picks i deff try tailing him even though hes a cocky ass thug ***** i dont discriminate but just trying to get my money up need 250$ to grab a wheel gotta make 150$ within next couple weeks and ill have enuff for a 250$ payout n still have 2 bills in account caus i all ready took out 2 bills last week


                                    How can you have the evaluation of a capper and considering them good or bad after a small sample size. 70% clip does not exist, will any of you guys ever understand this?
                                    I hit over 60% in MLB over a 100 wager streak, then brought back down to reality and hit around 51-54%. I guess everyone out there is looking for that guy, let me know when you found him so I can write him a check
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                                    • DOPEMAN
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 02-09-10
                                      • 327

                                      #53
                                      thanks for the the support niggas...i aint no "real-deal" im just a sharpass capper...my shits legit if u have any confusion on my records just look at my single straight wagers each night all of them are 4 to 8 units and usually color coded...youll see all my papers legit
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                                      • Laker_crazy
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 02-08-09
                                        • 9669

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                        WOW doomster thanks for the props. Im surprised to see my name on that list.
                                        If at all someone's name deserves to be there first,it is yours my bro...keep up the good work,good luck!
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                                        • lakerboy
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 04-02-09
                                          • 94379

                                          #55
                                          Doomster one thing i dont get and just remembered to ask is why isnt shoebox on this list? You do realize he is one of the sharpest guys around and has posted over 250 plays in NBA section this year.
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                                          • Dexter
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 12-24-08
                                            • 25829

                                            #56
                                            word....shoebox is mad underrated. hes a quant model phreak
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                                            • SolidDala
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 12-14-09
                                              • 1696

                                              #57
                                              all though I think the people on the list is sharp at this moment, the list is mainly a streak list, people hitting 60-70%, that is just a streak,

                                              54-55% over the years is the true sharps..
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                                              • HustleGetPaid
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-28-09
                                                • 1199

                                                #58
                                                Great thread!!! I usually check out and tail all of your top 5. Also put Shoebox and Dexter right there in the mix!!!

                                                Let's close this season out on the up fellas!!!
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                                                • shoebox
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 11-26-08
                                                  • 5710

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by DOPEMAN
                                                  thanks for the the support niggas...i aint no "real-deal" im just a sharpass capper...my shits legit if u have any confusion on my records just look at my single straight wagers each night all of them are 4 to 8 units and usually color coded...youll see all my papers legit
                                                  word you fake gangster g, let's see you track 300 plays. How'd bout dis ***** why don't you try and track 300 plays young blood and if you hit 70% I will send 5 dimes your way ya hear me my *****. That's real paper g ***** why don't you take the challenge and atop your broke ass from fronting 25 dollars a unit. Cuz dats for da small time ***** ya heard me? If you is scurred to take my challenge you just anoder fake gangster....
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                                                  • lyon804
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-02-09
                                                    • 6526

                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by shoebox
                                                    word you fake gangster g, let's see you track 300 plays. How'd bout dis ***** why don't you try and track 300 plays young blood and if you hit 70% I will send 5 dimes your way ya hear me my *****. That's real paper g ***** why don't you take the challenge and atop your broke ass from fronting 25 dollars a unit. Cuz dats for da small time ***** ya heard me? If you is scurred to take my challenge you just anoder fake gangster....

                                                    This right here is classic bro.. I love it

                                                    Just LMFAO!!
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                                                    • LLCOOLRAY818
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-24-10
                                                      • 100

                                                      #61
                                                      Hahaha
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                                                      • KiDBaZkiT
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-20-09
                                                        • 14962

                                                        #62
                                                        I personally find the dopeman hilarious.
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                                                        • Dexter
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 12-24-08
                                                          • 25829

                                                          #63
                                                          you've been CRUSHED by shoebox...
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