Mo Williams is the worst defender in the history of the NBA

[Mac4Lyfe]

This fukker is unreal. He refuses to play defense and anyone can score on him. He just let Thorton score 7 straight points on him and won't even stand in front of him. He let's him shoot a wide open shot as he backs off him all the way under the rim. WTF, is wrong with this dude. Cavaliers were leading by 12 points and Mo let New Orleans come back in the game. Teams know they can get points running off of him.

If you can't play defense you really shouldn't be in the fuking league. Damn this slug...

[williams22]

C'mon man enough of this. If I didn't know any better I'd think you were a Cavs hater. Mo is a slightly below average PG on defense. His offense is above average. Again, he's not healthy right now.

On a happier note, I love the floor spacing with Jamison on the court.

[Grind House]

HAHAHA!!!! New Orleans is working the Cavs right now. They can't do shit with a rookie back court. And yes I am a Cavs hater!!!! Magic bitches!!!!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mo let the Hornet's get back in the game all by himself. This fukker can't play defense to save his life. He let Marcus Thorton go off and NO now has the lead. He's 1-7 from the field missing wide ass open shot after shot. I'm so sick of this guy.

[nobshine]

Mo did not fit Skiles system in Milw. because of no D. He can score though like most of the NBA. Defense wins championships.

[rm18]

With maybe one or two exceptions everyone his size is a bad defender, and he is banged up as well

[michalis]

well you are probably just taking it out on him cause you have the cavs, i think you should relax there's enough time for the cavs to cover 3 times

[Mac4Lyfe]

C'mon man enough of this. If I didn't know any better I'd think you were a Cavs hater. Mo is a slightly below average PG on defense. His offense is above average. Again, he's not healthy right now.

On a happier note, I love the floor spacing with Jamison on the court.

I'm now a MO hater. This dude flat out sucks.

"Slightly below average PG"??? You've got to be kidding me. There's not another player in the NBA worst then him on defense. No one...

His offense isn't above average. He just shoots too dam much.

Here's some good info from another Cav backer. Everyone's not as naive as Wiliams22 who thinks Mo is family.

The longer that I follow sports the more I'm a believer in consistency. Championship teams aren't just good, they are consistent. The thing that bothers me as much as anything about Mo is his inconsistency. I understand every player has a bad shooting game every now and then, but Mo's a roller coaster ride. Just did a little research on Mo.

Mo's played 47 games this year to date.
16 of those games he shot less than 40%
6 of those 16 he shot less than 30%

17 games of 47 is 36%
6 of 47 games is 12%

So if you put that into a 7 games series that means for 2.53 games of a 7 game series Mo's gonna shoot less than 40%.

and
So if you put the minus 30% games into a 7 games series that means for .88 of a game of a 7 game series Mo's gonna shoot less than 30%.

2008-2009

81 games played
22 games less than 40%
9 games less than 30%

Post Season
14 games played
7 games less than 40%
1 gmae less than 30%

[williams22]

I'm not naive at all, I watch a TON of basketball. Mo's defense right now is being affected by his arm. Not that he's great usually, but he's better than this. Remember, we used to play Damon Jones serious minutes.

I rather have Mo at point than Boobie who can't handle the ball well enough to run an offense himself.

[jjgold]

Cleve was much better when he was hurt

He kills this team

[Mac4Lyfe]

well you are probably just taking it out on him cause you have the cavs, i think you should relax there's enough time for the cavs to cover 3 times

I had my money on Orlando Sunday and I still told everyone that Mo sucked. It doesn't matter what side your on. Mo sucks as a defender and is the worst in the league. Name one player that plays defense worst than Mo???

[Mac4Lyfe]

Cleve was much better when he was hurt

He kills this team

JJ get's it...

Mo comes back and the Cav's lose 3 straight games. 2nd Quarter New Orleans goes after Mo and some no name Marcus Thorton get's hot with Mo not even playing defense and puts up 23 points in the quarter and NO puts up 40 for the quarter.

Since Mo has come back, Cleveland has given up 100+ points (averaging like 110) per game. He is a slug out there on defense. What does his shoulder injury have to do with him getting beat off the dribble???

[williams22]

Mo was the biggest reason this team had 66 wins last year outside of Lebron.


Again, let's move to better topics, such as how nice it is to have Jamison on the court.

[Grind House]

Come on NO. One more half like that and this team is on a for sure 5 game losing streak.

[Law-Byrnes]

Or how about how none of the Cavs get back on defense. And they can't shoot with this zone getting thrown at them.

[williams22]

Come on NO. One more half like that and this team is on a for sure 5 game losing streak.

Which would still leave us atop the Eastern Conference

Just be happy your Magic got us in about the best spot possible. They won't fair nearly as well next time.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Thornton now with 23 points on 10-12 shooting and he has only played 12 minutes.

Mike Brown doesn't have a clue. He's used Gibson and Hickson (2 better defenders) 0 minutes. Cav's might as well have traded Hickson because Brown certainly won't use him.

[Grind House]

Mo was the biggest reason this team had 66 wins last year outside of Lebron.


Again, let's move to better topics, such as how nice it is to have Jamison on the court.

Mo Williams was a big reason why they got they ass sent home early too in the playoffs.

[suicidekings]

I think the issue isn't Mo. They seem to just feel like they have so many weapons now that they can run & gun at will. They do have a lot of firepower, but their strength is defense and controlling game tempo, especially at home. Gotta tighten it up and slow the game down if they want to win this game.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mo was the biggest reason this team had 66 wins last year outside of Lebron.


Again, let's move to better topics, such as how nice it is to have Jamison on the court.

Why don't we all hold hands and sing Kumba Ya??? Maybe you can tell me a worst defender than Mo Williams?

[williams22]

Thornton now with 23 points on 10-12 shooting and he has only played 12 minutes.

Mike Brown doesn't have a clue. He's used Gibson and Hickson (2 better defenders) 0 minutes. Cav's might as well have traded Hickson because Brown certainly won't use him.

Gibson is definitely the better defender, but Hickson I don't know about. He's like watching a more athletic Drew Gooden. He can make some great plays, but he's lost half the time. Also, if he's not getting to the rim on offense, his defense falls apart.

[Tree Rollins]

Mo did not fit Skiles system in Milw. because of no D. He can score though like most of the NBA. Defense wins championships.

I'm not naive at all, I watch a TON of basketball. Mo's defense right now is being affected by his arm. Not that he's great usually, but he's better than this. Remember, we used to play Damon Jones serious minutes.

I rather have Mo at point than Boobie who can't handle the ball well enough to run an offense himself.

His arm? Defense is played with your feet. Defense is about staying in front of your man. His arm could have a very very minor affect on his defense, but if you move your feet, you can be a good defender even with a halfway broken arm. It's not like he's a shot blocker or something. If he can move his arm, he has no excuse to be playing terrible defense.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mo was the biggest reason this team had 66 wins last year outside of Lebron.


Again, let's move to better topics, such as how nice it is to have Jamison on the court.

Which is exactly why I say that the Cav's are like the Dallas Mav's. They're made for the regular season but can't win in the playoffs.

Mo Williams was a big reason why they got they ass sent home early too in the playoffs.

No Show Mo was all talk and didn't back up any of his shit talking. He's never shown up in a big game dating back to college.

[Scorpion]

This fukker is unreal. He refuses to play defense and anyone can score on him. He just let Thorton score 7 straight points on him and won't even stand in front of him. He let's him shoot a wide open shot as he backs off him all the way under the rim. WTF, is wrong with this dude?

Moe is lazy and stoopid!

[williams22]

His arm? Defense is played with your feet. Defense is about staying in front of your man. His arm could have a very very minor affect on his defense, but if you move your feet, you can be a good defender even with a halfway broken arm. It's not like he's a shot blocker or something. If he can move his arm, he has no excuse to be playing terrible defense.

Mo does not have the quickest foot speed on defense (yet he's deceptively quick on offense - mainly because he changes speeds so well) so he usually has to bump guys as they make their first step. This is a pretty usual defensive trick used by guards. He's scared as hell to bump with his shoulder right now so he's left without any contact and is on his heels.

[Tree Rollins]

Mo does not have the quickest foot speed on defense (yet he's deceptively quick on offense - mainly because he changes speeds so well) so he usually has to bump guys as they make their first step. This is a pretty usual defensive trick used by guards. He's scared as hell to bump with his shoulder right now so he's left without any contact and is on his heels.

Come on my man. You're making excuses for him. You could cut off MJ's right arm and he would still have been a quality defender. There are guys with half of Mo's quickness who are solid NBA defenders. He doesn't have to be the best or be a shutdown guy, but defense is about effort. When you have good quickness like Mo does, you can be a solid defender. You just have to care.

[Grind House]

This team is trying their hardest to match up with the Magic it isn't even funny. Matter of fact they're trying to emulate are style of playing with stretch 4's and over the hill big men. But it ain't gonna work, because Lebron will choke again, and Jamison will fold under the big lights. And we already know about Mo.

[Law-Byrnes]

Which would still leave us atop the Eastern Conference

Just be happy your Magic got us in about the best spot possible. They won't fair nearly as well next time.

The Eastern Conference Finals I presume.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Collison is now abusing Mo... Good grief

[williams22]

Well as poor as Mo shot the ball, he did come up with a big 3 towards the end. He also had 8 assists which is fairly high for him.

Lebron is just playing games out there now. With so many shooters, Jamison, Varejao, and Shaq, he's gonna put up 10 assist a night from here on out. He had 13 tonight and he never really ran much point. Jamison's unorthodox finishes and above average jumper fit perfectly with Lebron's game.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mo's stat line... 2-9 : 6 points in 31 minutes of work. Add that to the 1-9 he went on Sunday and the 4-10 and 2-5 the games before. I wouldn't say 1 for 9 from 3 in the last 2 games is coming up big.

The biggest issue with Mo is his lack of defense. Getting beat off the ball and teams going directly at him one on one or through pick and roll. If he's not scoring points then he is a liability. His assist to turnover was very good tonight though.

[THEGREAT30]

No that title goes to Mike Bibby, good day

[williams22]

Mo's stat line... 2-9 : 6 points in 31 minutes of work. Add that to the 1-9 he went on Sunday and the 4-10 and 2-5 the games before. I wouldn't say 1 for 9 from 3 in the last 2 games is coming up big.

The biggest issue with Mo is his lack of defense. Getting beat off the ball and teams going directly at him one on one or through pick and roll. If he's not scoring points then he is a liability. His assist to turnover was very good tonight though.

His shot is off right now, not just in numbers, but you can see his trajectory is much lower than usual. I think his shoulder is either bothering him more than he will let on, or he is still babying it.

Regardless, Jamison looked great tonight. I doubt Hickson is going to see much time from here on, and that's fine. Also, Shaq has been a beast lately.

[whatsgood5]

He's a pretty poor defensive player for sure, not the worst ever or even currently by any means though.

[lakerboy]

Cavs are gonna use the rest of the regular season to gel this new lineup. I still think they made too many moves but they are the team to beat in the east just like last year.