denver no cover ml cover never cover everyone loses all is lost sweet caroline no chance no hell no how can't happen everyone will die soon time to chill wow i need to breath. hopefully if you been betting with proper money management and took a loss here it wouldn't matter all that much in the scheme of things are you are still alive. time to grab a joint.
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"hopefully if you been betting with proper money management and took a loss here it wouldn't matter all that much in the scheme of things. time to grab a joint. "
with all due respect, the above was all i, personally, was able to decipher.
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John Morrison is full of fail.
This was the top bet game in the Association today thanks to JM bettors. They got slaughtered on the Chase, and ML's got lucky in the final seconds.Comment -
Failboat set for fail, passenger JM
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yes all that was a bunch of babble just like all the people that continue to have no clue about using this system even though it is making money if you follow it correctly, hello???. if you played it the way it should be you won, period end of story. there was an adjustment made so that if teams were favored you play the moneyline. are the odds high in this series, ah ya they were when you factored in the moneylines and points bought. if you can't foresee that coming when denver was scheduled to play teams like the knicks and raptors and playing the moneyline was gonna come into play you should have never of been involved. if you were and didn't play it right it your fault, not the system.
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Below is the system that this thread and the posted record is based on.yes all that was a bunch of babble just like all the people that continue to have no clue about using this system even though it is making money if you follow it correctly, hello???. if you played it the way it should be you won, period end of story. there was an adjustment made so that if teams were favored you play the moneyline. are the odds high in this series, ah ya they were when you factored in the moneylines and points bought. if you can't foresee that coming when denver was scheduled to play teams like the knicks and raptors and playing the moneyline was gonna come into play you should have never of been involved. if you were and didn't play it right it your fault, not the system.
looks like the lusitania is heading down again
[COLOR=#000000 ! important]in case anyone is interested, below is the original (old) jm v1 system(as i assume it to be) that this thread is supposed to be based on. if it is not correct, then i would expect the master of this thread to please correct any discrepincies. I have asked that this be posted since the beginning of this thread to no avail.
******************.com NBA Betting System
Here’s the NBA betting system in detail. As long as you strictly follow my betting guidelines below, you will be winning almost all of your NBA bets.
In a nutshell, you will be betting that one team is going to win at least one game in an on-the-road series versus an opposing team that is on a different conference. This is a bet that you will win more than 97% of the time.
Before I go into detail on how to make the bets, I will go over the money management system. There are only three bet values you should stick to: Bet A; Bet B; and Bet C.
Bet A = Your beginning bet. I recommend you set your beginning bet at $100 when you first start out.
Bet B = In case Bet A fails, you make bet B to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A, plus any profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A was $100, your Bet B can be $250.
Bet C = In case Bet B fails, you make bet C to make up for any loss you’ve suffered from Bet A plus Bet B, plus profit you would have achieved from bet A. So, if your Bet A
plus Bet B was $350, your Bet C can be $650.
There is no Bet D, or E, or anything thereafter. If you lose Bet C, you lose the bet. However, do not be concerned, because losing a Bet C is something that will almost never happen. I’ll talk more about that later. Here’s the betting system:- 1. Check the NBA schedule and mark down any series where one team will be playing at least 3 consecutive games on the road versus a team on a different conference.
- 2. For the team that will be playing 3 or more consecutive games on the road with a different conference, make a bet A for the team on the road on its first day by buying 3 points.
- 3. If you lose bet A, make bet B on the next day for the same team.
- 4. If you lose bet B, make bet C on the next day for the same team.
A good place to check which conference a team belongs to is here A good place to check the NBA schedule is here – just click on each team to see their entire schedule. The teams that have three consecutive @ games in a row versus teams of the different conference are the series you want to bet on.
The only exception is to never bet on a team that is either the best or worst on the road. If your team has the worst road record in the league, then you should pass on that series due to the higher risks involved. Likewise, if your team has the best road record
in the league, then Vegas would often set the line too high, so it’s best to pass on that series as well.
Also, check up on the injuries before making a bet. If your team has a key injury (15 points and up player), then you should just pass on that series, regardless of any injuries there may be on the other team.
One other thing to note is if your team is playing 6 games on the road vs all opponents of the different conference, then you can split that up into two different series, one beginning with the first game and one beginning with the 4th game.
If you are unfamiliar with betting, below is a screenshot of what you may see on BetUS:
Click on Buy Points/Pick Pitchers
On the next page, you will see this:
Here, just click on NBA
On the next page is where you select your team. For example, lets say you want to buy 3 points for the Houston Rockets in their game versus the Dallas Mavericks, you would need to do as follow:
Just click in that circle and on the next page is where you buy points and set your wager amount. Just follow the instructions in the screenshot below:
VERY IMPORTANT: Buying 3 points should be -170 in odds. If your BetUs account asks for anything higher than -170 to buy 3 points (such as -185), then you should immediately give Bruce a call (1-800-620-1905 and ask to be transferred to Bruce of extension 2721) and tell him that you have the promotional code 381895, and based on the terms of this promotion, you are allowed the ability to buy 3 points at -170 odds. He will then add the ability to buy 3 points to your account for only -170 odds. If Bruce is away, ask for Amy of extension 2604.
Also, I just want to let you know that you can just buy 2 points instead of 3 points and still have similar performances. There is not much difference in terms of winning results when you buy 2 points instead of 3 points.
If you do not understand what buying points mean, let me explain: Each game that you wager on will have a point spread. For example, in the Houston vs Dallas game that you see on the screenshot above, the spread is +5 for Houston and and -5 for Dallas. If you bet on Houston +5, it means that Houston can lose the game by 4 points to Dallas, and you will still win the bet. If you bet on Dallas -5, it means that Dallas must beat Houston by 6 points or more for you to win the wager. Now, if you buy 3 points for Houston, that would bring the spread to +8 instead of +5. This means that now you will still win the bet even if Houston loses to Dallas by 7 points. Similarly, if you buy 3 points for Dallas to bring the spread to -2, it would mean that they can now win by only 3 points or more and you will still win your wager.
The reason why BetUs is important to your betting success is because it allows you to buy the necessary amount of points needed for your success. Many sportsbooks do not allow you to buy points, and for the ones that do, many of them don’t allow you to buy enough points needed for proper application of the system. Plus most important of all, BetUs is also the bookmaker that charges less to buy points than any other bookmaker out there. I’ve used just about every bookie on the planet, and BetUs is pretty much THE place to make your wagers when you want to buy points for your games. Some bookies out there allow you to buy the necessary amounts of points needed, but the cost that they charge to do that would pretty much negate the point of doing so.
If you haven’t already signed up at BetUs, click here to create your account online. Afterward, call in to BetUs at 1-800-620-1905 and ask for Bruce of extension 2721 or Amy of extension 2604. Once one is on the line, just say that you've just signed up for an account online, and that you have a promotional code with you that you want to use before making a deposit. Give the promo code 381895 and they will be able to provide you with a 55% bonus on your first deposit!
If Bruce and Amy are both away or you're not able to get a hold of either of them, then just call back at another time. If you speak with anyone else, you will not be able to apply the promotional code. Also, if you are located outside of the USA and need to know how to dial to BetUs's toll-free number, you can check on CountryCallingCodes.com for dialing instructions.
I also strongly recommend that you should also open up an account at BetJamaica by clicking here
On the top left corner, you will notice this button:
Just click there and you will be able to sign up online. BetJamaica allows you to buy 3 points directly without calling in to request that ability through a promotion code.
Having an account at BetJamaica in addition to the account at BetUs is also extremely helpful because you’ll have the ability to look at the odds that are offered at each sportsbook for each game, and determine for yourself where would be the best place to bet for that particular game. This practice is going to end up saving you a tremendous amount of money throughout your betting career.
(Oh and also: If you're nice, let BetJamaica know that you were referred by account number 27874, I would really appreciate it)
Now, I want to give you an example from the 2006-07 NBA season to make sure you’re able to follow the betting method. On 3/9/07, the Detroit Pistons had a road game versus the Denver Nuggets. Their next game was also road game versus the LA Clippers on 3/11. On 3/13 they had another road game versus Seattle. This means that
Detroit had three consecutive games on the road versus three teams of a different conference. Therefore, on 3/9/07, you would bet on the Detroit Pistons to beat the Nuggets by buying 3 point, starting with a $100 bet (or Bet A). On 3/9, Detroit did beat Denver, therefore you have won bet A. Stop at this point and do not make any more bets in this series. Move on to the next one.
But what if Detroit lost to Denver on 3/9/07? Then, on the day of their next game on the road (3/11) versus the LA Clippers, you’ll make a bet for Detroit again by buying 3 points, this time with a $250 (or Bet B) to make up for the loss you’ve suffered yesterday, as well as to win a profit.
If Detroit were to lose again on 3/11 versus the Clippers, then on 11/13 bet $650 (or Bet C) on Detroit by buying 3 points in their game versus Seattle to make up for the losses you’ve suffered in the last 2 bets with Detroit, as well as to win a profit.
You must be wondering, what if Detroit lost again on 3/13? Well, then that means you lose the bet. I can assure you, however, you will almost never see this happen. I’m a statistics professional, and I’ve done extensive stat calculations and tests to ensure that my betting formula results in a win almost 100% of the time. In an entire NBA season, as long as you follow my guidelines, your chances of losing Bet B in any game is less than 14%. Your chances of losing bet C in any game is close to 0%. Bet under these rules and you will profit. Another thing to note here is that since you will be betting by
buying 3 points, you’ll be winning the bet even if your team loses by 2 points. Whenever you win a bet in any series, stop and move on to the next one. Have control on yourself, and never bet your entire bankroll on any game. If you have a huge bankroll, your Bet A can start out higher, provided that you have enough in your bankroll to make a Bet B and a Bet C if needed. Similarly, if you have a small bankroll, your Bet A can be smaller. Enjoy! [/COLOR]Comment -
There was an A bet loss last night and a C bet loss. 3-26-10. Denver was the C loss and New York was the A although New York may have been a no play due to the 15 point player being out filter. I made a mistake and overlooked him being out. However for true accuracy of the system i am not going to include that loss or play in the following record. That is my intention here, to reflect accurately how the system has performed by following it as it is written and have a written record reflecting the true performance of the system.
POSTED RECORD:
(A)Bet: 10-8
(B)Bet: 5-3
(C)Bet: 2-1
Overall Chase: 17-1
This record only goes back to the beginning date of this thread not the entire season record.
According to my figures. With the C loss last night, the system with the proper money management and odds you will be -1.11 units if you had been playing the system since the beginning of this thread.Comment -
FROM POST #358 (orginal v1, as far as we could GUESS):
If your team has a key injury (15 points and up player), then you should just pass on that series, regardless of any injuries there may be on the other team.
JM'S LATEST V1 UPDATE STATES:
Also, check up on the injuries before making a bet. If your team has its best player injured, then you should just pass on that series, regardless of any injuries there may be
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IF YA WERE PLAYING ACCORDING TO THE LATEST V1 UPDATED RULES(BELOW),THEN NO, IT WASN'T:
When your team is a favorite of -3 points or greater
Here’s an important betting exception to keep in mind: If your team is a favorite of -3 or greater (that means it is expected that your team will beat their opponent by a margin of at least 3 points), then you should make a wager on the Money Line (betting on the Money Line means that you’ll win the bet as long as your team wins the game. No point-buying is necessary). The reason why is because if your team is the favorite, and manages to win the game but at the same time fail to cover the spread, it dramatically increases the risk to continue betting on the same series.
IN THE ORGINAL PDF (OR WHAT WE ASSUME IT TO BE) IN POST 358, JM IS BASICALLY SAYING TO ALWAYS PLAY POINTSPREAD AT ALL TIMES W/ THE 3 PT. BUY; THEREFORE DEN. WAS A LOSS (UNLESS OF COURSE YA MAY HAVE HAD THE EXTRA INSURANCE PT./PTS.,TO EITHER COVER/PUSH?) THE ORIGINAL V1, IS WHAT THIS THREAD IS SOLELY BASED UPON, REGARLESS HOW YA MAY WANT TO PLAY IT. YOUR OPTION.Comment -
Yes, that is the player i was speaking of. I believe he had a 15.2 pts per game average. Below is the excerpt from the PDF that is posted above that is believed to be the orginial V1 that this thread is based upon.
Please don't mistake that i am saying that is the only way to play it.. I am just tracking the results of that particular version. Everyone should, of course, play the plays they feel will get them the best results with their money.
"The only exception is to never bet on a team that is either the best or worst on the road. If your team has the worst road record in the league, then you should pass on that series due to the higher risks involved. Likewise, if your team has the best road record
in the league, then Vegas would often set the line too high, so it’s best to pass on that series as well.
Also, check up on the injuries before making a bet. If your team has a key injury (15 points and up player), then you should just pass on that series, regardless of any injuries there may be on the other team.
One other thing to note is if your team is playing 6 games on the road vs all opponents of the different conference, then you can split that up into two different series, one beginning with the first game and one beginning with the 4th game."Comment -
v1. New York Knicks (+15.5) [bet b] @bet365 odd 1.50Comment -
I'm sure this comment will be poorly received by the JM followers, but I really don't understand how with only a couple of weeks left in the regular season, there is still disagreement as to exactly what the rules of the system are and what constitutes a win/loss...Comment -
guys anyone here keep track of the bets "without buying points" this year?Comment -
dynamite, i have 76-2. losses-nets mar 6 and hawks on nov 1. this is v1 and v2 buy no pts.Comment -
Yeah, been playin it about half of the year. backtested the whole yr though. fading v3 sucks, tried it and got burntComment -
oh well ok I got losses for 16th Nov. Bucks (home) vs Mavs and 4th Dec. Celtics against Thunder (home) but dunno
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So this guy changes rules whenever he feels like it to delete loses ?
And this guy could actually go something like 80-80 and claim 80-0 because of chasing ?
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New York
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Yes, that is one of the things that makes playing JM's system so confusing. There are just too many different versions with different filters applied at different times.
I guess for clarity we should name them V1.1, V1.2, so on so forth.
However in this thread the PDF of the version with it's filters are posted periodically throughout the thread so that confusion of what was being tracked here would be clear.
I show another A bet tonight 3-30-2010. The series is: Phoenix @ Chicago @ New Jersey @ Detriot. Phoenix opened@ -3.5 so here we go again with what Version filter do we apply to this game?
As far as this thread goes you would have to buy the 3 pts and make Phoenix -.5
Good luck to all!
POSTED RECORD:
(A)Bet: 10-8
(B)Bet: 5-3
(C)Bet: 2-1
Overall Chase: 17-1
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It seems to me that fading is more profitable than playing straight JM system, especially with not buying any points. That makes your wins bring in more units than buying points.
I am curious as to which JM Version 1 you use and which filters you apply to the games you bet on? Do you use the latest Version 1 with all of it's filters? Do you use the JM system of bets? (ie. A Bet = 1 unit, B Bet=3.5 units, C Bet = 6.5 units)?
Do you reverse the entire series? in other words bet on the home team for the complete series without buying any additional points?
Do you have a thread where you have posted and kept track of your picks?
Thanks for your participation in this thread. I hope all your bets are winners.
Good Luck
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yeah you're right.Yes, that is one of the things that makes playing JM's system so confusing. There are just too many different versions with different filters applied at different times.
I guess for clarity we should name them V1.1, V1.2, so on so forth.
However in this thread the PDF of the version with it's filters are posted periodically throughout the thread so that confusion of what was being tracked here would be clear.
I show another A bet tonight 3-30-2010. The series is: Phoenix @ Chicago @ New Jersey @ Detriot. Phoenix opened@ -3.5 so here we go again with what Version filter do we apply to this game?
As far as this thread goes you would have to buy the 3 pts and make Phoenix -.5
Good luck to all!
POSTED RECORD:
(A)Bet: 10-8
(B)Bet: 5-3
(C)Bet: 2-1
Overall Chase: 17-1
This record only goes back to the beginning date of this thread not the entire season record.
Not sure about the Phoenix game though...
actually series started Mar 28 @Min didn't it? Which Phoenix won 111-105 don't know about the spread though, but should be B bet then right? passed on that series nonetheless
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hey pm me your mail adress and I'll give you the source if you want... but I myself just started the whole system bets...It seems to me that fading is more profitable than playing straight JM system, especially with not buying any points. That makes your wins bring in more units than buying points.
I am curious as to which JM Version 1 you use and which filters you apply to the games you bet on? Do you use the latest Version 1 with all of it's filters? Do you use the JM system of bets? (ie. A Bet = 1 unit, B Bet=3.5 units, C Bet = 6.5 units)?
Do you reverse the entire series? in other words bet on the home team for the complete series without buying any additional points?
Do you have a thread where you have posted and kept track of your picks?
Thanks for your participation in this thread. I hope all your bets are winners.
Good Luck
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Phoenix and Minny are from the same conference so according to my understanding of the posted PDF for this version that game wouldn't have been a bet for this system.
I sent you a PM. Thanks for your offer.
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yep you're right about the same conf rule, but he said that they have to lose against them with more then 3 points against the spread but I don't know about that
oh you got mail
Now, an exception would be that if a team has been playing road game(s) within their own conference before they start 3 consecutive games vs. 3 opponents from the opposing conference, then you should only treat the 3-game series vs. the opposing conference as eligible for play ONLY if that team has lost ALL of its road games from the beginning of the road trip by more than 3 points against the spread.
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I don't know about you guys, but I'm done w/JM. I'm still w/ Betus and the lines and juice
this year was terrible for John's picks. I lost my ass this year because of the lower points
and higher juice Betus offered. Yeah, I bought 3 points and lost by .5 to 1 point.
Aren't we paying his ass for information like, what lines to use, injuries, or to remind us
to bet ML? Hell, we can look up game series ourselves. I don't have time to check injuries
and wait around all day to get the best line.
I went with Sports betting professor. He tells you what line to use, tells you injuries, has
a 3 game chase (if you prefer). He's 75 -1 on series bets and over 70% on straight bets.
Doesn't have all these fukin rules, doesn't fudge his record and won't charge you extra
for picks. All for the same price as JM. Plus, you can try him out for $5 for a month.Comment -
obviously if ya don't have the f'n time to even check an occassional injury or line, or whatever other simple cappin method it might take, then go for the professor nonsense. how the f'k can ya look up a game yourself w/o checkin on something, for christ sake!! as if you're the only one who may have had a bad f'n yr.!? nothin is 100% f'n mechanical, that really works in my opinion. how many times do ya have to be reminded of any g'damn thing anyway. there are people on this thread/threads who actually take the time & bust their go-nads so people like you hardly have to do shit. all ya gotta do is f'n READ a post or 2 back!! P.S. i'm not even quite sold on jm bask. myself yet, let alone the F"N NUTTY PROFESSOR!! i'll do whatever it takes research wise (including fading when absolutely necc.) to win. i feel alot better that way, than pullin a f'n rabbit out of a hat. OH!! and have a nice day!!!
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