Dallas Is Really Playing Like Shit Again...

**BigBollocks** · 05-01-07, 11:05 PM

Wow, Dallas is going to lose 4 games to 1. The Mavericks are having shot clock violations and shooting up desperation threes, while the Warriors are running easy cutters time and again for uncontested layups. I think this is really telling on Avery Johnson...

**sungus77** · 05-01-07, 11:23 PM

how in the hell did GS lose f'n 40 games? if they play like this for the duration of the playoffs, you never know. they have just embarrassed dallas in five games. i mean they are just unconscious from 3.

**babaoriley** · 05-01-07, 11:27 PM

Part of the problem for Dallas is just that Golden State is playing so well. Golden State as an 8 seed is just nuts with everyone healthy. Dallas would have beat L.A. in 5, Houston or Utah in 6-7. If Golden State had been healthy all season, you're looking at a top-5 seed, easy. Denver is another tough out, though S.A. is in control. Adding Iverson to an already tough nucleus doesn't really put into perspective how good that tezm would have been, had it played with the current roster all season.

**babaoriley** · 05-01-07, 11:28 PM

Originally posted by sungus77

how in the hell did GS lose f'n 40 games? if they play like this for the duration of the playoffs, you never know. they have just embarrassed dallas in five games. i mean they are just unconscious from 3.

They lost 40 games because they weren't healthy all season.

**babaoriley** · 05-01-07, 11:33 PM

Baron missed 20 games and was gimpy for another 15-20.
Richardson missed 30.
Al. Harrington played half the season with Indiana as did Stephen Jackson

**rjt721** · 05-01-07, 11:37 PM

GS blew this one.

They better win game 6 at home because they aren't winning a game 7 in Dallas.

**sungus77** · 05-01-07, 11:38 PM

down the stretch after that trade with indiana that everyone points to, they were only three games above 500. looks like dallas is going to hold on, but it was by no means awe inspiring. two more games and one in GS? tall order. hope dallas does it, but we'll see. definitely wont take dallas giving up any points.

**babaoriley** · 05-01-07, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by rjt721

GS blew this one.

They better win game 6 at home because they aren't winning a game 7 in Dallas.

I really don't think that Dallas at home in game 7 is even remotely close to a lock. They've been outplayed by GS in 7 of their last 8 meetings. I think the recent historical perception of "Mavs vs. Warriors" doesn't really do justice to how much of a tough matchup this is for Dallas.

Dirk definitely stepped up at the end of the 4th. Dallas had a slight edge at the line, but nothing egregious, though I'm not sure how Jackson gets thrown out for clapping. If that was Dirk clapping in the same situation, then there's no way he gets double T'd and ejected. Also, the ticky tack call that got Baron ejected was silly. GS in 6.

**rjt721** · 05-02-07, 12:00 AM

Originally posted by babaoriley

I really don't think that Dallas at home in game 7 is even remotely close to a lock. They've been outplayed by GS in 7 of their last 8 meetings. I think the recent historical perception of "Mavs vs. Warriors" doesn't really do justice to how much of a tough matchup this is for Dallas.

Dirk definitely stepped up at the end of the 4th. Dallas had a slight edge at the line, but nothing egregious, though I'm not sure how Jackson gets thrown out for clapping. If that was Dirk clapping in the same situation, then there's no way he gets double T'd and ejected. Also, the ticky tack call that got Baron ejected was silly. GS in 6.

I don't think it's a lock either, but they would have a significant advantage after surviving tonight and finally winning a game in Oakland. For what it's worth, I like GS in game 6, but I think it would be a huge psychological blow if they lost at home and were forced to go back to Dallas for game 7, particularly after letting tonight's game get away.

**babaoriley** · 05-02-07, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by sungus77

down the stretch after that trade with indiana that everyone points to, they were only three games above 500. looks like dallas is going to hold on, but it was by no means awe inspiring. two more games and one in GS? tall order. hope dallas does it, but we'll see. definitely wont take dallas giving up any points.

But Davis missed 15 games after January 20th, including almost all of Feb. GS went 4-11 in those games. Starting in early March, when Davis returned, Golden State went 16-5 to close out the season (with one of the five losses being the last game Davis sat out against Portland, so they closed out with a 16-4 record in games in which Davis played). Even when he played, he couldn't go balls out like he is right now. He was limited. Meanwhile, Richardson missed half of December, all of January and the Warriors went 8-15 without him in those games.

**babaoriley** · 05-02-07, 12:05 AM

Originally posted by rjt721

I don't think it's a lock either, but they would have a significant advantage after surviving tonight and finally winning a game in Oakland. For what it's worth, I like GS in game 6, but I think it would be a huge psychological blow if they lost at home and were forced to go back to Dallas for game 7, particularly after letting tonight's game get away.

I agree with this, actually. The only caveat I'd throw in the mix is that a game 7 would have all of the pressure firmly planted on the Mavs shoulders to win at home and complete the task.

**bigboydan** · 05-02-07, 12:18 AM

I thought for sure they were gonna lose this game for sure when they were down by 6 with two and a half minutes left.

**Razz** · 05-02-07, 12:20 AM

It would have been a lot better for Golden State to get blown out tonight than to lose like they did.

**gridironguy** · 05-02-07, 02:14 AM

Originally posted by babaoriley

I agree with this, actually. The only caveat I'd throw in the mix is that a game 7 would have all of the pressure firmly planted on the Mavs shoulders to win at home and complete the task.

Baba, I believe the disappointment that Golden St would feel if they let Game 6 get away will completely trump any pressure Dallas feels. ALL of the momentum would be in Dallas's favor and there is a 90% chance, imho, that Dallas would win a Game 7 in this series.

**Dark Horse** · 05-02-07, 05:44 AM

GS should never have started to milk the clock with 3 minutes left and up 112-103. Where Dallas has never gotten GS out of their game, the decision to do so sure did. The reason is simple. Dallas could easily defend the shot, once it was the only option after GS dribbled out 18 secs of the shot clock. Much easier to commit defense to such a shot.

Totally unnecessary loss. I don't think it will matter in game 6. GS should take this series on their home floor. They're the better team. Under normal circumstances Dirk Nowhereski would, for the second game in a row, have been too late with his sudden 3 pt shots, but this time GS helped Mavs out. Dirk and Dallas lucked out. GS has their number.

**Checkerboard** · 05-02-07, 07:43 AM

Originally posted by Dark Horse

GS should never have started to milk the clock with 3 minutes left and up 112-103. Where Dallas has never gotten GS out of their game, the decision to do so sure did. The reason is simple. Dallas could easily defend the shot, once it was the only option after GS dribbled out 18 secs of the shot clock. Much easier to commit defense to such a shot.

Totally unnecessary loss. I don't think it will matter in game 6. GS should take this series on their home floor. They're the better team. Under normal circumstances Dirk Nowhereski would, for the second game in a row, have been too late with his sudden 3 pt shots, but this time GS helped Mavs out. Dirk and Dallas lucked out. GS has their number.

Milking the clock . . . Basketball's version of prevent defense which can and does at times equally frustrate the wagerer in Football. I didn't have a side in this matchup, but if I'd 'a' had GS, I'd be vexed.

I think you're right DH, anyone who may have been on the losing side tonight might well choose to consider a chase on GS in next matchup on the Warriors' hardwood.

**Hawaiian time** · 05-02-07, 08:44 AM

I still dont believe how golden state lost that game

**Razz** · 05-02-07, 04:39 PM

Originally posted by gridironguy

Baba, I believe the disappointment that Golden St would feel if they let Game 6 get away will completely trump any pressure Dallas feels. ALL of the momentum would be in Dallas's favor and there is a 90% chance, imho, that Dallas would win a Game 7 in this series.

90% is way too low. Teams don't blow Game 5 on the road, come home and lose game 6, and then go back on the road and win a Game 7. It's Game 6 or it's better luck next year for Golden State.