Not even close, this guy is fukkin scary. He seems like he is playing with little boys. If Cleve stays healthy they will be the champs, if they play the slow down game with solid D , Lebron will just wear the other team out like Jordan did all the years.
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Lebron is indeed more talented than Michael was, but if he doesn't translate it into rings, he'll never receive credit for it.Comment -
Rings are comingComment -
**** the rings, I'll take the commercials.
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6+ of themOriginally posted by jjgold
Sorry skippy but I don't this that happening at all.Comment -
He is like a cross between Dr. J and Chrles Barkley. He's an animal. I like the fact he comes into the first game in great shape. With all his disstractions I could give him a pass if he was a little soft to start the season. I saw him last night and he was in the best shape of anyone on the floor.Comment -
Has anyone seen this guy live?Comment -
Seen him last year in OKC against the Hornets. Was fun to watch. When it looks like there is no opening, he finds it and makes that pass or side steps the defender to make an otherwise impossible play. Had fun.Comment -
Before I can comment I need to know the real age of Lebron. I have never believed his purported age. This issue aside, he is a monster on the court!Comment -
Mentioning him in the same breathe as Michael is an insult. James is the most over hyped player in sports.Comment -
Mentioning any modern day player in the same breath as MJ is an insult, IMO. Some may have similar talents or skills, but I don't think there will be another who will be as clutch in the big moments.Originally posted by IllusionComment -
He is different type of player. Also, he is pretty clutch. Last year he held the best FG percentage in the league for the last 2 minutes of every game. He has got a ways before he is close to Jordan. He still turns the ball over a lot, but he has a great ability to drive the basketball and get fouled and/or score. His defense could use some work, but Jordan's defense got special treatment anyways. Just my opinion.Comment -
I remember a stretch of 3 games straight where he deferred at the end of games last year and caught a lot of criticism for it. He did impress in the playoffs last year though.Comment -
He impressed me in the playoffs too. Didn't think he had it in him. Being from Ohio I like to fade the Cavs and Bengals because I'm tired of hearing stupid people try to say they are amazing when both teams still have a lot to prove. The Cavs won their first away game of the season in SA and that was a big step. I still think the Cavs struggle on the road this year.Comment -
I don't watch the NBA as much as I used to but Labron seems to be more of a distributor than Jordan was as a younger player, but Jordan could take the game over like no one I have ever seen before...Comment -
The way game is played and especially called today is so profoundly different that the comparison is next to impossible.
Lebron has got all the superstar calls from day 1 and nowadays it seemes that any player going to the hoop will always go to the line. Lebron is ideal for this style of play.
Jordan however got manhandled near the basket before the "Jordan rules" were created. Pistons hit him hard as did Knicks. But Jordan was still very effective and brought home the rings.Comment -
When he flies like this I'll believe it.Attached FilesComment -
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James is crazy talented but the truth is he does it against a lesser-all around-NBA than Jordan's era. Think of all the high-priced stiffs now getting starting jobs. They'd be buried as 11th men back then...Comment -
LeBron James is amazing.. He almost averages a triple double. I don't see why people hate on him or question the comparisons to Jordan.. LeBron will one day be considered better than Jordan..Comment -
I do not deny that James might one day be considered better, my point is merely that a fair comparison is impossible to make. I do not hate Lebron, I hate the hype and the new style of NBA play.Comment -
Scoring is up all around the league. The game is faster. That means more points, rebs and assists for everyone. D is down. Lebron falls asleep on D. These 'superstars' get scored on in ways that would embarrass the old guys and keep them awake at night, 30 points or not.
We all probably remember when AI took MJ one on one. MJ was crouched down on D like you don't see anymore and AI stuck a jumper in his eye. He was older and showed he wasn't all-D 1st team anymore. Now, that happens to everyone on a daily basis.
You don't want your kid watching NBA today. It's like watching the WWF with someone about to join the wrestling team. Great game to bet on though.Comment -
He backs it up, even if he is over hyped.Originally posted by Illusion
James will be right up there with Jordan when it is all said and done for LeBron. Remember, he came in at 18 and is only 21 right now. He is probably just as popular as Jordan was, if not more.
He will continue to do this for quite sometime. So sit back and watch the show, and be happy most of us got to see Jordan, and will continue to see James.
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I remember that dunk contest vs. Dominique Wilkins in that pic...it was awesome...Comment -
Jordan had more explosion to the basket and more leaping ability
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Lebron is the real deal though but too early to tell.
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King James is on his way IMO...the guy can only go up from here. To compare a 22 yr old against a lifetime of Jordan is not fair...but when all is said and done he has the ability to be better than 99.9% of the NBA HOF and maybe pass that 0.01% that is JordanComment -
Come on Guys. Don't you think ya overrated Lebron. Detroit will beat Cle in the last 2 games.Comment -
Will be years before Lebron gets his first ring. To a large extent the playoffs are a battle between the coaching personalities. The teams become the extension of that personality.
Who did Avery lose to the last couple of years? Pat Riley and Don Nelson... (Nelson owned Avery, but not Sloan in the next round).
When did the Pistons win? With Larry Brown, and definitely NOT with Flip Saunders.
Why will the Spurs win the championship? Pop.
And as much as I like the Suns, and still think they're the best team, somehow I strongly doubt that Amare would have jumped off the bench if someone like Pop had held the reigns, instead of the amiable D'Antoni.Comment -
Lebron isn't better than Jordan at his age for one reason Jordan had a crappy shot when he was the same age Lebron has an even WORSE jumper at his age. A superstar in the league at the 1-3 spot should never shoot below 80 percent from the FT line it is a joke the way he shoots the ball. His defense lacks the whole game, because he has to have energy to get to the basket otherwise he would average 10 points per game. Once defense and Shooting gets better this might be a conversation worth having until then its no use.Comment -
At age 22, Lebron has 4 yrs of NBA experience.
At age 22, Jordan had 1 yr of NBA experience (he left UNC after his junior year).
College experience and NBA experience = two different things.
I love Lebron, but try again on this one.
Jordan is the benchmark..Comment -
Good point. He has a lot of time.
But, these guys who come out of HS get old quick. Consensus in other threads is Kobe's D is not what it used to be and he can't jump out of gym the same way. He's 28? People talk about KG like he's 40. These guys all get knee surgeries in their late 20s.
If you look at both of their 4th year in the league MJ is the better player in the better, and slower, league. James played about 250 games while MJ was still in college.Comment
Now that I think about it, you are totally correct about Avery getting outcoached..