THE BRICKYARD--5mike5

[5mike5]

every1 wave goodbye to the (awful) career of the dinger

[shaunovery]

I think someone might give him a chance after he goes through the recovery program

[5mike5]

I think someone might give him a chance after he goes through the recovery program

i definatley dont think they will

he was NEVER even good...terrible finishes over his entire cup career...much less after it would 6 months to complete nascar road to recovery program, even if he goes through it

truck series IF hes lucky he may get chance on a terrible team....i even think nationwide is a stretch for dinger for a bad team...i dont think he will ever see any of nascar 3 series ever again...

no sponsors would ever touch him again...ever

[5mike5]

also just my thoughts on nationwdie 1st race at indy:

1. i cant see any nationwide driver winning **(sadler maybe exception cause hes ran here alot as cup driver)..barring a fuel mileage type ending then its anything goes

2. i love all CUP regulars over nationwide drivers in H2H **(i only have 1 bet so far on single H2H)(not including sadler over some1 IF its a good matchup)

****nationwide doesnt even run on pocono track (even though pocono/brickyard are NOT as similiar as some think), i think they will really struggle vs CUP drivers, even more than they alreay usually do...i mean these nationwide teams dont even have a notebook to work off off, not to mention thee cars are so different than cup cars...

[5mike5]

H2H single plays for CUP:

GORDON over edwards (-110)(-125), maxed at both prices

KAHNE over HAMLIN (-105) (-110), maxed at both prices

Nationwide H2H play:

Keslowski over Stenhouse Jr. (-110)(-120) maxed at both prices

updating after last night, (after seeing i dont have #24)...all H2H above (so far)

KASEY KAHNE (+1400)

TONY STEWART (+800)

JIMMY JOHNSON (+775)

**longshot is BOWYER (+2800) to win the race, but think he will only be cover wager by racetime, but not sure yet..havent even been playing 1 cover last few months...luckily never needed 1 all year actually...those use be a lifesaver but when i was using them easrly this year, i didnt end up needing them and never covered the few losses i had early in the season anyway ....all depends on who else i add to WIN the race wagers and their prices

**only good thing is i have options for 1-2 more bets with #24, but still wish i had at openers price...very glad i maxed his H2H with #99 early though

***doubt i will take any1 else over next few days to win CUP race, unless add to exsisting bets if odds move right way

i will however be placing my 2 picks for the nationwide race today

[Dad]

Gordon is +1200 at betphoenix

[shaunovery]

Still 12-1 at Greek paddypower

[5mike5]

those books just dont get nascar action like 5dimes does imo..thats why the odds never move til right b4 the race..especially the non-US books, i dont see nascar a big market there...if they did, odds would have to move becuase of all the risk they would have on certain drivers

they usually stay same all week til after sessions...exactly why i make sure i hit early at 5dimes cause prices are so much better there on most openers compared to any other book out there...also way better 30-60 minutes b4 the race is about to start on all drivers not top 3-4 favorites...great for day of race underdogs when "public" is betting just betting basically favs

**im just glad it didnt mess up on kasey kahne...i like gordon still of course, but not near as much as kahne this week...plus ive got more room to make more win bets now...gotta look at the bright side! lol

im taking the mess-up as a sign, especially as snake bit as hes been....maybe the gambling gods were helping me...10 years since #24 has won a INDY....maybe good anniversary present for u guys!

if he ever gets to 12-1 i would, but that wont happen, barring overreaction on odds for a bad practice or something

[5mike5]

i have to say ive been frustrated at times the last few weeks with changes and delayed openers to our nascar market at 5dimes, but if it stays like this with all the raised limits on winning the race with odd changes, not having to wait til lines move to just go ahead and max then again im fully on board....

and no $100 limits on early H2H bets for nationwide or qualifying!!! plus even since openers have came out later than usual, prices are still better than other so no big deal imo

[5mike5]

H2H matchups for the race AND qualifying matchups have been taken down though????

i loked at them just a few hours ago, but now they are all gone

CUP and Nationwide....all H2Hs are gone..

STRANGE

[5mike5]

H2H matchups for the race AND qualifying matchups have been taken down though????

i loked at them just a few hours ago, but now they are all gone

CUP and Nationwide....all H2Hs are gone..

STRANGE

looks like they are going back up now, so nevermind

[shaunovery]

Why did they take the odds down

[5mike5]

Why did they take the odds down

not sure why they did

was just for the matchups for CUP and nationwide,

nationwide is already back up and nothing different about them...prices same as b4

so guess cup will be back up soon too

really not sure why

[shaunovery]

Cup prices back up but not h2h

[5mike5]

Cup prices back up but not h2h

cup and nationwide prices never went down

only H2H matchups did

[shaunovery]

cup and nationwide prices never went down

only H2H matchups did

Strange when I logged in about an hr ago I couldn't view prices

[5mike5]

nationwide race:

LOGANO (+650)

KESLOWSKI (+550)

wont bet anymore "win the race" driver bets, unless its a pretty big longshot...

**also still just the 1 single H2H bet on nationwide so far (bk over stenhouse) (-110, -120) maxed both prices

[5mike5]

Strange when I logged in about an hr ago I couldn't view prices

huh thats odd...never went down for me, just the H2Hs

[Reno Paul]

Gordon is +1200 at betphoenix

Used to play at Bet Phoenix. They are a C rated book. Maybe they are better now since I heard they have new management.............From what I am reading their payouts are much slower in comparison to 5 Dimes.

Rather trust my money at 5 Dimes.

[5mike5]

i jut read some threads about them, takes a week to get P2P payouts even...i dont use checks for payouts said that takes a longtime too

not saying u shouldnt play there at all, but i couldnt just because of payout length of time...lines even for nascar seems to be near the top compared to other books including 5dimes, ... im just impatient when it comes to payouts being U.S. player...i dont mind leaving several 1,000 in my account in case i have a few bad weeks cause i spend that on every race weekend, but i wont just leave near 5-figures in there...i fully trust 5dimes but its more about being a U.S. player and being smart

when requesting a payout i want my cash with 24 hrs, or 4 days using the new method that 5dimes started offering is great too if i need to get more than the max. p2ps a week, but usually p2ps

[Optional]

I guess at least we know it isn't necessarily Mike or any of us that moves the opener prices. Assuming his Gordon bet really never registered there.

Don't like they have over-juiced their fave so much compared to every other book last couple of races. Glad I have a couple of backup books. Before the last few weeks I've hardly even looked at other book prices closely apart from Greek openers, let alone bet NASCAR outside 5D.

[5mike5]

everytime i bet any driver it moves immediatley...sometimes not top 2 low favorites, but even then it usually does....not some coinsidence every single time i hit the finalize button they all immediatley move...just not possible if u think about it

especially since most weeks i bet non-usual plays...

soon as i hit kahne, +1300 to +1000

soon as i hit bowyer, +2800 to +2200

just happens every single week

and i did bet gordon...i have no doubt, just not suew what happneed but im not making a big stink about it...i bet 250 max on him at +1300, and he immediatley goes to +800

[yisman]

hey mike, sent you a PM, thanks

[shaunovery]

I use bet365 and paddypower as my each way books

Gordon 12-1 at paddy still and 10-1 at bet365

Plus I won't move the line because at paddy I have 20-30 here and there and it builds up so come race time I gave 150/-200 on it

[5mike5]

everytime i bet any driver not being top 1-2 it definatley moves....not some coinsidence every single time i hit the finalize button they all immediatley move...just not possible if u think about it

especially since most weeks i bet non-usual plays...

soon as i hit kahne, +1300 to +1000

soon as i hit bowyer, +2800 to +2200

just happens every single week

and i did bet gordon...i have no doubt

nationwide odds have been up 24 hours already and just bet 2 favs...soon as i finalize, they both moved too

not sure why, but its a fact....i didnt believe it either at 1st when yisman noticed, but its undeniable after months of it

[5mike5]

strill have no idea why, besides i doubt any1 has killed them like we have and maybe they think thats where the most risk on the plays for the week are going to go

they know SBR nascar forum, all of us as a combined group, i mean not sure it doesnt make them take notice

alot of weeks we all have alot of same wagers to win big

[Reno Paul]

Guess you are the Billy Walters of NASCAR at 5 Dimes Mike

[5mike5]

Guess you are the Billy Walters of NASCAR at 5 Dimes Mike

i maybe his intern though...............................as his janitor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[shaunovery]

Just had to goggle billy Walters to find out who he is

All I can say is wow

[5mike5]

just had to goggle billy walters to find out who he is

all i can say is wow

legend

[5mike5]

next bet i make on an Opener, and we will see what happens, and i wont eve MAX the 1st bet on it like usual

honestly, its also a group effort imo, lots of us ply the same things, so maybe they also know that

thats why i stropped posting my Leans b4 openers come out...mots of us dont anymore actually

[yisman]

next time try PMing the picks to the regulars first and see if they move off of that.

But it's more likely they just do it based off of your 5 Dimes account.

[shaunovery]

Like you say mike most of the races we all fancy the same drivers

Although some like other longshots as for getting the prices it depends where we all live

Most on here from the states I'm from London opti and mat from Australia so we all bet at different times and sometimes we all can't get the best odds

[shaunovery]

next time try PMing the picks to the regulars first and see if they move off of that.

But it's more likely they just do it based off of your 5 Dimes account.

I don't think that would work if mike private messages us all lets say 8-10 of us and we all logged and bet 100-200 each the line would move

[5mike5]

next time try PMing the picks to the regulars first and see if they move off of that.

But it's more likely they just do it based off of your 5 Dimes account.

ill tell some1 here through PM my next pixk and i guearntee u the line moves within minutes

but usually, its as soon as i hit refresh

been that way for months...shocking i havent even been limited ....i mean i have absoltley HAMMERED that book just off nascar alone this year....last season remmeber i camte in late and played football everyday too, and im average at best

but as soon as i finalize and refrresh, the line has moved, but i have seen it take up to 5 minutes

but like sometimes the very top fav or 2 may not, but even thats rare...even jimmy did last night as he was fav too though

they fear all us at SBR nascar forum, and thats the bottonm line!!!