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  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 52002

    #211
    sryy mati i feel asleep face first into my keyboard



    ive only had 4-5 hrs sleep since monday morning waiting on the openers
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 52002

      #212
      i decided to go ahead and take my biggest longshot this week:

      JEFF BURTON (+4700)

      only taking 1 more decent favorite, and 1 more double-digit mid range pick to fill out my roster...small 4 man roster this weeek probably, unless odds change dramatically after sessions

      then im purely focusing on 2 or 3 big H2H matchups to max. a few times for the race
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      • Optional
        Administrator
        • 06-10-10
        • 61502

        #213
        Hopefully 5D was just being extra careful this week. With the lower opener limits.
        .
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 61502

          #214
          Originally posted by Optional
          Still a weirdly short one.

          Jimmie Johnson +600
          Tony Stewart +700
          Denny Hamlin +750
          Jeff Gordon +800
          Dale Earnhardt Jr +1000
          Kyle Busch +1000
          Kasey Kahne +1200
          Brad Keselowski +1200
          Kevin Harvick +1200
          Martin Truex Jr +1500
          Clint Bowyer +1500
          Carl Edwards +1500
          Ryan Newman +1800
          Matt Kenseth +2500
          Greg Biffle +2500
          Joey Logano +3000
          Jeff Burton +5000
          There is only 32% over round in that market, so the prices themselves are still actually great as a group.

          Although I don't usually catch the initial openers so dont have anything to compare to from other weeks.

          5D work it out to about 45% over round by the time their market is set most weeks.
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          • MatI
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-17-11
            • 5200

            #215
            Originally posted by 5mike5
            sryy mati i feel asleep face first into my keyboard



            ive only had 4-5 hrs sleep since monday morning waiting on the openers
            thats fine
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            • 5mike5
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-21-11
              • 52002

              #216
              just woke up, ive got the list Mati
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              • 5mike5
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 09-21-11
                • 52002

                #217
                keep in mind, these odds really dont reflect anything for this week as teams were running better/;worse, recent moimentum, ect....these were 5dimes openers for the CHASE race at loudon

                jimmy +700
                Gordon +650
                Kyle +850
                denny +1050
                stewart +1200
                harvick +1100
                bowyer +1700
                kurt busch +1550
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                • 5mike5
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-21-11
                  • 52002

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Optional

                  Although I don't usually catch the initial openers so dont have anything to compare to from other weeks.
                  openers is all i was talking about...

                  it was VERY ordinary compared to every other week of the season so far....and they are always better on the top 9/10 than any other book

                  om top of the other wierd things,i hope your are right and nothing is changing
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                  • 5mike5
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 52002

                    #219
                    how the hell did BURTON go from +4700 to +2500 overnight??!!

                    that a crazy price now
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                    • DDT
                      SBR MVP
                      • 03-22-09
                      • 3757

                      #220
                      Originally posted by 5mike5
                      how the hell did BURTON go from +4700 to +2500 overnight??!!

                      that a crazy price now
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                      • 5mike5
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 52002

                        #221
                        glad i got burton at +4700....not too bad for my longshot "no way he wins without hell freezing over pick" this week
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                        • Reno Paul
                          SBR MVP
                          • 02-11-10
                          • 1647

                          #222
                          Added Ryan Newman +1600......I normally don't take him, but this track is an exception.
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                          • 5mike5
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 09-21-11
                            • 52002

                            #223
                            yeah im still not sold on newman at that price, but i could be if he got better
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                            • yisman
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-01-08
                              • 75682

                              #224
                              is there a place which lists what drivers are going for each race?
                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                              [/quote]

                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                              • 5mike5
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-21-11
                                • 52002

                                #225
                                ...
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                                • Optional
                                  Administrator
                                  • 06-10-10
                                  • 61502

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by yisman
                                  is there a place which lists what drivers are going for each race?
                                  No. Fields are announced the Monday before each race.
                                  .
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                                  • MatI
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-17-11
                                    • 5200

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                                    keep in mind, these odds really dont reflect anything for this week as teams were running better/;worse, recent moimentum, ect....these were 5dimes openers for the CHASE race at loudon

                                    jimmy +700
                                    Gordon +650
                                    Kyle +850
                                    denny +1050
                                    stewart +1200
                                    harvick +1100
                                    bowyer +1700
                                    kurt busch +1550
                                    Thanks for this. Much appreciated.

                                    I feel like taking Bowyer & Kahne this week, but im still undecided. I think i might just end up taking some H2H's.
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                                    • 5mike5
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-21-11
                                      • 52002

                                      #228
                                      kasey kahne is a tough pick to win at NH

                                      he has only 1 top 5 in his whole career here, and that was in 2004, and that 4th place finish is the best hes ever had...

                                      only 1 finish inside the top 10(6th) in the last 11 races at NH i think

                                      but i think every1 should always just go with what ur feeling no matter what so i say go 4 it...
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 52002

                                        #229
                                        i think there will be some great H2H oppurtunitues as well Mati
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                                        • DDT
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-22-09
                                          • 3757

                                          #230
                                          We will kill it with H2H this week
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                                          • MatI
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 02-17-11
                                            • 5200

                                            #231
                                            Originally posted by 5mike5
                                            kasey kahne is a tough pick to win at NH

                                            he has only 1 top 5 in his whole career here, and that was in 2004, and that 4th place finish is the best hes ever had...

                                            only 1 finish inside the top 10(6th) in the last 11 races at NH i think

                                            but i think every1 should always just go with what ur feeling no matter what so...


                                            haha, I need to stop posting until i've had my coffee in the morning. Kasey Kahne should be Denny Hamlin.

                                            Do you put more weight on previous races or current season form? Or about equal?

                                            I'm not sure if you agree but I classify Phoenix, Richmond and then Pocono, Kansas & Martinsville as the most similar tracks to NHMS. And looking at the winners of those four races:

                                            Phoenix - Denny H
                                            Richmond - Kyle
                                            Kansas - Denny H
                                            Pocono - Joey L
                                            Martinsville - Ryan Newman (but race dominated by Hendrick cars)

                                            Denny also has a pretty solid history at NHMS, 1 win, 4 top 5's in last 10. The above results from JGR this year make me feel like my money needs to be on their cars.
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                                            • 5mike5
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 09-21-11
                                              • 52002

                                              #232
                                              i put more on prev. performance than anything..

                                              i only compare NH to other short flat tracks, not 1.5 and 2.5 mile tracks, but thats just me

                                              i seem to cap races alot diffetrent than most people do, just whatever works for each person....i go with whatever im "feeling" just as much as anything...i spend 30+ hours a week leading up to each weeks race deciding my picks so some think its crazy, but it works
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                                              • yisman
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 09-01-08
                                                • 75682

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by Optional
                                                No. Fields are announced the Monday before each race.
                                                right, so where would I find who's racing this weekend?
                                                [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                [/quote]

                                                [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                • MatI
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 02-17-11
                                                  • 5200

                                                  #234
                                                  Your strategy works, hence why I was asking! just going over the H2H's now...
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                                                  • 5mike5
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                    • 52002

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by MatI
                                                    Your strategy works, hence why I was asking! just going over the H2H's now...
                                                    im going to wait and wait til raceday when ALL the H2H are released...at least right now thats my plan


                                                    **the biggest thing that turned my nascar betting around was NOT to let practice sessions dictate who u bet on...biggest mistakes i ever made in my early years betting nascar...thats why i already know my bets pretty much and make most bets early anyways...i look at 10-lap averages , but even that would not make me make a bet i didnt already like
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                                                    • 5mike5
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                      • 52002

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by yisman
                                                      right, so where would I find who's racing this weekend?
                                                      nascar.com on bottom left of front page will show u the entry list for every series
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                                                      • Reno Paul
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 02-11-10
                                                        • 1647

                                                        #237
                                                        Looks like a good percentage of drivers are bringing in their Richmond or Martinsville cars to race this weekend from what I am reading.
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                                                        • 5mike5
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 09-21-11
                                                          • 52002

                                                          #238
                                                          i also dont pay any attention at all to chassis selections, but some here find it helpful

                                                          some think new is better, some dont

                                                          if i did i would much rather have a winning or great performing chassis than a new 1, but like i said to me it makes no difference at all in my wagers
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                                                          • 5mike5
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 09-21-11
                                                            • 52002

                                                            #239
                                                            but the way i see it, whatever works best for each person...no wrong way i guess as long as u are making great money
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                                                            • 5mike5
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-21-11
                                                              • 52002

                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                              **TRUCK series will be at IOWA speedway on FRIDAY night 8:30PM on SPEED channel
                                                              truck race is SATURDAY night at 8:30pm from iowa

                                                              not friday
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                                                              • 5mike5
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 09-21-11
                                                                • 52002

                                                                #241
                                                                i was going to wait, but i found a H2H for the race i liked too much to pass up:


                                                                NEWMAN over Truex Jr. (-115)

                                                                to win max at this price
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                                                                • 5mike5
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                                  • 52002

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                                  i was going to wait, but i found a H2H for the race i liked too much to pass up:


                                                                  NEWMAN over Truex Jr. (-115)

                                                                  to win max at this price
                                                                  also MAX win amount at (-130) too
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                                                                  • GP
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 06-03-12
                                                                    • 890

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by 5mike5

                                                                    NEWMAN over Truex Jr. (-115)

                                                                    to win max at this price
                                                                    I like it Mike! Solid play. The tv show Seinfeld ruined the name Newman for me. Now when I hear it, I expect Jerry to say "Newman!" afterwards. lol!

                                                                    Thanks Yisman, Mike, Vegas, & Paul for your answers regarding Vegas sportsbooks for Nascar. It's good to know that offshore is better.
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                                                                    • jimmy007oc
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-25-10
                                                                      • 1699

                                                                      #244
                                                                      it's -150 @5Dimes now.
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                                                                      • 5mike5
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 09-21-11
                                                                        • 52002

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by jimmy007oc
                                                                        it's -150 @5Dimes now.
                                                                        it always moves 20c when i max. a H2H
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