nascar withdrawl

[packer00]

Im still reeling from Carl losing the title,god damn Tony Stewart.

[5mike5]

update:

heard that if best buy goes to the #17, that RPM will have to shut down dinger, and move ambrose and his sponsors to the #43 car

[MatI]

Been hearing/reading the same thing.

While I'm relieved to hear Marcos should be safe at RPM, but it is not good they are possibly losing sponsorship on another car. And please please don't hire Kurt Busch!!!

Only 70 days until Daytona!!!

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update:

heard that if best buy goes to the #17, that RPM will have to shut down dinger, and move ambrose and his sponsors to the #43 car

Damn! Another off season of money troubles at RPM.

*sigh*

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What about Whincup brings Vodafone for the #43 and we have Team Aussie?

(let me dream)

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A guy with a name like Win Cup has to be a good omen too eh?

[5mike5]

RPM also asked if putting kurt in the #43 and replacing dinger would help retain Best Buy sponsorship

who knows but going to find out soon enough

[5mike5]

BEST BUY officially will be primary sponsor kennseth(9 races) AND carl edwards(2 races) IN 2012 Cup series

also best buy will be partial sponsor for both cars all season

very very bad omen for any dinger and #43 fans

[MatI]

Shame for 'dinger, but I am happy (relieved) my man Marcos is still in the game...!

[5mike5]

u actually HAVE to win races in this day and age in nascar

when r.smith and 6 other 1st time winners even won last year, dinger really didnt and never has performed well enough, so i cant blame BB for going to RFR

that said, still i agree its a shame

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I don't quite get it still. But I'm sure the suits and bean counters have numbers to support the decision.

Huge blow for RPM if they have to fall back to a single car team I think.

[hawk 5]

Racing without the 43? Won't happen.

[5mike5]

Racing without the 43? Won't happen.

they are planning to move ambrose and his sponsors to the #43 if dinger(or kurt) doesnt get the sponsorships

#43 will definatley be on the track no matter what senerio plays out

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Glad to hear Dinger has fallen on his feet! He must be Kurt's biggest fan today.

Now fingers crossed this works out just as well for RPM by February...

[5mike5]

also read that #43 looking to getdavid ragan in there, just working on sponsorships

sad that #43 cant get a above average driver in that seat

maybe go from dinger to ragan...not much difference, still average at best

[Vegas39]

Just read Nichael Waltrip racing may buy Red Bull Racing assets

[5mike5]

rueitimann signed with tommy baldwin racing....

no big deal really, but thought somebody here might care

[Vegas39]

rueitimann signed with tommy baldwin racing....

no big deal really, but thought somebody here might care

Funny he found a ride before Vickers

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Poor Reuti.

Vickers will probably end up in a start n parker

[Vegas39]

Hoping Vickers can't even get that.Not sure Ragan is even gonna find a ride from the looks of it

[Vegas39]

Its now Official. Almirola to the 43 car.

[5mike5]

Its now Official. Almirola to the 43 car.

just another driver in a long line of below average talented guys in the #43

getting quite embarassing for them at this point

[Vegas39]

just another driver in a long line of below average talented guys in the #43

getting quite embarassing for them at this point

Not that there were many choices left.Strange that Ragan can't even seem to get a Nationwide ride

[5mike5]

yeah i understand there arent many chpices, but come on A.A.?? grab 1 of these young bucks that have 10x the talent already behind the wheel than he does after years in the seat...and yeah, ragan (not that i think hes super talented either), is still a way better choice than he is...just sad that this organization cant get over the hump...RPM will have 1 win a year with ambrose on a road course and at most a few top 5s on ovals if they get lucky..thats about the best they can hope for AGAIN...im no RPM fan anyways, but still just sad to see them stay below average

[Vegas39]

yeah i understand there arent many chpices, but come on A.A.?? grab 1 of these young bucks that have 10x the talent already behind the wheel than he does after years in the seat...and yeah, ragan (not that i think hes super talented either), is still a way better choice than he is...just sad that this organization cant get over the hump...RPM will have 1 win a year with ambrose on a road course and at most a few top 5s on ovals if they get lucky..thats about the best they can hope for AGAIN...im no RPM fan anyways, but still just sad to see them stay below average

I agree mostly.I'd like to see Ambrose become more consistent as I like his personality and is good for the sport.I assumed they were putting Ragan in car.The Almirola signing was odd unless it was sponsor driven.Not sure on Ragan as at one point he was looked at for Almirolas replacement in Nationwide ride now hearing that will most likely be Cole Whitt

[Vegas39]

Kinda funny Las Vegas Motor speedway just announced this year for Cup race drivers meeting to be held in Neon Garage area so open to the public.Always wondered what was said in those things

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I agree mostly.I'd like to see Ambrose become more consistent as I like his personality and is good for the sport.I assumed they were putting Ragan in car.The Almirola signing was odd unless it was sponsor driven.Not sure on Ragan as at one point he was looked at for Almirolas replacement in Nationwide ride now hearing that will most likely be Cole Whitt

It had to be a sponsor thing doesn't it? Why do I get the feeling the team is slumping backwards into money issues again already.

I'd take Cole Whitt over Aric for the Cup car personally. Not an obvious star, but obviously stands out in the trucks as having great potential. I think 3 or 4 young guys in trucks are better than the guys in good cars in nationwide.

I wonder if Ragan wanted too much money after being used to Roush wages...

Kinda funny Las Vegas Motor speedway just announced this year for Cup race drivers meeting to be held in Neon Garage area so open to the public.Always wondered what was said in those things

NASCAR does the fan stuff 100 times better than any other motorsport series. We may bitch about a lot of stuff, but they are seriously good at looking after fans. F1 and V8 series treat us like the enemy when it comes to driver access.

[Vegas39]

I'm thinking you are right Opti about Ragan wanting too much money

[5mike5]

rusty wallace shut down his 2 nationwide teams due to lack of sponorships for 2012...hes hoping this is temporary, but for now theres no on-the-track activities for either team til money starts coming in from sponsorship

*also kurt busch will be racing in selected nationwide races for phoenix racings nationwide #1 car program starting in daytona

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Sad news for Rusty. Guess that's the cost of insisting running Steven.

[5mike5]

Sad news for Rusty. Guess that's the cost of insisting running Steven.

exactly!!!

[Vegas39]

Sad news for Rusty. Guess that's the cost of insisting running Steven.

No doubt

[Vegas39]

Guess there's a rumor floating about that someone has bought Red Bull Racing and will put Ragan in car

[Optional]

Haven't read anything about that...

Still got fingers crossed Vodafone are involved if that team comes back. Mainly because I think it will mean Whincup moves from V8s with them eventually.

[hawk 5]

Guess there's a rumor floating about that someone has bought Red Bull Racing and will put Ragan in car

MWR. He's getting it on the cheap plus gets to take the owners points and field a third car. Mark Martin.