Nascar Good Sam Club 500 Talladega

5mike5 · 10-17-11, 10:39 PM

yes the rule changes are definatley happening....dont think any1 really knows what to expect becuase they havent tested the rule changes...guess we will all find out friday....im guessing the 2 car tandum wont last very long and will need to swutch 2-3x as often at the least

Vegas39 · 10-17-11, 10:41 PM

Yes Opti last I heard those rule implemented and a smaller plate

Will throw a bit on Bowyer

Vegas39 · 10-18-11, 11:44 AM

article on rule changes for this weekend

NASCAR tweaks rules to alter Talladega drafting

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup/story/_/id/7001280/nascar-tweaks-rules-affect-talladega-drafting

NASCAR tweaked two rules for next month's race at Talladega Superspeedway, apparently in an effort to limit the two-car tandem racing that has dominated at its two fastest tracks.

Optional · 10-18-11, 06:15 PM

Nice. A bit more power too.

hawk 5 · 10-19-11, 06:56 AM

2x2 racing may be over. Do we go back to capping this race as a pack of cars. That would mean Gordon, Little E, Stewart and maybe Kyle? It may at least stop the huge underdogs from sneaking out a win.

hawk 5 · 10-19-11, 06:56 AM

Originally posted by Vegas39

article on rule changes for this weekend

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cup...adega-drafting

Good article.

hawk 5 · 10-19-11, 07:02 AM

Can they still move from last to 1st in a lap or 2? Will Edwards and Harvick Point race? Is that possible at a track like this?

Optional · 10-19-11, 08:33 AM

Hopefully we will get some idea on Friday...

Vegas39 · 10-19-11, 11:31 AM

I wonder if given a choice at end does Bowyer help Harvick or one one of next years teammates

I don't think they can really point race on this one

hawk 5 · 10-19-11, 12:30 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

I wonder if given a choice at end does Bowyer help Harvick or one one of next years teammates

I don't think they can really point race on this one

They can sit to the back and wait to come up with a lap or 2 left. But can the get there without over heating. Why not qualify towards the back with a partner and wait. But, if you can't get back to the front in a couple of laps it may be better to try to stay up front.

f\*\*k this race

Vegas39 · 10-19-11, 12:35 PM

Yes Hawk this is gonna be bad but do thinl the chasers will want up front to at least lead a lap and get that point

Vegas39 · 10-19-11, 02:12 PM

Just had Gordon on Nascar now and he said the only difference is that cars may have to duck out or switch more often.He wasn't happy as he said thats when the wrecks seem to happen on the switches

hawk 5 · 10-19-11, 04:03 PM

I suppose he would know, but has anybody got in the car and actually tried running this new setup?

Vegas39 · 10-19-11, 04:42 PM

No friday will be first time.

Optional · 10-19-11, 08:42 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Just had Gordon on Nascar now and he said the only difference is that cars may have to duck out or switch more often.He wasn't happy as he said thats when the wrecks seem to happen on the switches

Seems so obvious what JG says is right that we have to expect NASCAR has gone far enough, or at least tried to, to stop cars hooking up and swapping for the whole race. If overheating means they have to swap every lap they probably won't make time that way anyway so wont even bother apart from last lap or two. (which could make for an exciting finish)

hawk 5 · 10-19-11, 09:26 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Seems so obvious what JG says is right that we have to expect NASCAR has gone far enough, or at least tried to, to stop cars hooking up and swapping for the whole race. If overheating means they have to swap every lap they probably won't make time that way anyway so wont even bother apart from last lap or two. (which could make for an exciting finish)

You think they are going back to pack racing then? I have to agree. Last lap could be back to 2 by 2 crazy shet. I love it and hate it. Liking Stewart. But will wait to bet him.

Vegas39 · 10-19-11, 09:48 PM

Think we could see pack racing til end.know Fords ran cooler so they may try it with 2 of them

Optional · 10-19-11, 09:50 PM

Feel the same way Hawk. Love both, hate both at times... a bit of both together might be great!

And feeling good about Smoke too. As well as Newman.

Vegas39 · 10-19-11, 09:57 PM

As a Newman fan I just hope he finishes with all 4 wheels on ground,though he did lead most lap at both Daytona races

Optional · 10-19-11, 10:43 PM

Think I'll try and back anyone that comes with a brand new chassis this week. Seems as good a way to cap this as any to me

Vegas39 · 10-19-11, 10:46 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Think I'll try and back anyone that comes with a brand new chassis this week. Seems as good a way to cap this as any to me

Sounds better than my pulling names from hat idea

5mike5 · 10-19-11, 11:15 PM

no way the 2 car tandem is stopped.i think they have tried again, but just like changes to every plate race this year the drivers figure it out everytime...and listening to drivers this week they dont think the changes will stop anything this time either..id be suprised if we see much of a difference besides blown motors and a few more wrecks...i really wont care either way, cause i like certain elements of 2 car and certain elements of the pack..but i just very seriously doubt we will see pack racing ever again until real big changes take place

hawk 5 · 10-20-11, 06:59 AM

tidbit- 33 of the 84 races have been won by the p1 and p2 starters.

Vegas39 · 10-20-11, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by hawk 5

tidbit- 33 of the 84 races have been won by the p1 and p2 starters.

Did not know that stat wow

Dax · 10-20-11, 10:54 AM

Hey guys, make sure you don't miss out on the lines for the winner of the race at SBRsportsbook under NASCAR FUTURES.

Optional · 10-20-11, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Dax

Hey guys, make sure you don't miss out on the lines for the winner of the race at SBRsportsbook under NASCAR FUTURES.

I'm on.

Vegas39 · 10-21-11, 09:53 AM

Drivers with new chasis this weekend

McMurray

Kyle Busch

Menard

Harvick

Burton - Chasis tested at Daytona but never raced

Montoya

Vegas39 · 10-21-11, 02:56 PM

After first practice seems cars can draft at least 20 laps together so that's a good thing

Optional · 10-21-11, 07:20 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Drivers with new chasis this weekend

McMurray

Kyle Busch

Menard

Harvick

Burton - Chasis tested at Daytona but never raced

Montoya

Thanks Vegas.

Won't count Burton as that car was built last year... guess the other 5 will be my bets this week!

Might use them as one side of the picks game too.

Optional · 10-21-11, 08:58 PM

Kevin Harvick (+1000)
Kyle Busch (+1200)
Jamie McMurray (+2000)
Juan Montoya (+2500)
Paul Menard (+3500)

Went a half unit on each at Greek to get started.

hawk 5 · 10-22-11, 07:34 AM

Hope that works for you opti. I'm thinking along the lines of the pushers and the pushees. Such as M Martin pushing Jeff Gordon has to be good for Jeff. Earnhart pushing Jimmie has to be bad even though they won it that way in the spring. Both are in the chase. Bobby Labonte pushing Stewart? Can't get behind that combo. Lagono and Kyle just aren't very good at this. Edwards and Biffle looked damn good with Biffle just needing to be a good teammate. Anyway you get the idea.

Optional · 10-22-11, 08:04 AM

That's the way I've tried to think the previous couple of these races. Just being lazy really. Agree Kyle is a fade. But think Tony was probably just practicing with Cassill and Labonte to try and make sure the team has as many single friends out there as possible.

I do like the way the EGR pair approached practice. In their brand new cars, so I'm not sorry to be holding them. Others are just because I said I would really.

(and we both know what would happen if I didn't)

Optional · 10-22-11, 08:06 AM

Is Edwards going to work Biffle by looks eh?

Thought he said he would be sticking with Bayne all race.

hawk 5 · 10-23-11, 07:14 AM

Practiced with Biffle.