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  • hawk 5
    SBR MVP
    • 09-12-06
    • 3982

    #1
    sonoma
    Pretty easy really, J Gordon, Stewart, And Montoya. Problem comes with getting good odds. Robby Gordon was really good here last year plus you have the ringers. Pruett will be there in Reeds' ride. Got to like him. Kyle smoked the field in the Nationwide series in Mexico, got to like him at his odds. Decisions, decisions. Races won from top 5; 12 of 19-63.2%, from top 10; 15 of 19-78.9%. Race won from the pole; 5 of 19-38%. Waiting a bit yet.
  • avssakic
    SBR MVP
    • 12-12-07
    • 1795

    #2
    I agree the top 4 are; Gordon's, Stweart, and Montoya.
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    • Big_Cheese
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 04-11-08
      • 970

      #3
      Scott Pruitt replaced Reed Sorenson. He is on the field, I was able to get him and 17 other drivers at 25-1 odds to win and I laid $200 on the top 5 at 4-1, Scott Pruitt and 17 others. Feel great about this one. Some books still havent picked up on this. The one I wagered on Betgameday since updated the odds and they were slashed in half... Check you book andlook at the field odds.

      Tony and Montoya have the best shot here... I see Montoya at 8-1 at some book, you better pounce on this cause after practice he want be close to these odds. 9-2 and 5-1 are good odds on Tony...
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      • shock11
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 05-16-08
        • 838

        #4
        rather take Marcos Ambrose at 7 to 1 to come in the top 5 then Scott at 4 to 1. No point in also saying the field because they have no shot what so ever
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        • Big_Cheese
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 04-11-08
          • 970

          #5
          Originally posted by shock11
          rather take Marcos Ambrose at 7 to 1 to come in the top 5 then Scott at 4 to 1. No point in also saying the field because they have no shot what so ever

          No so true at a road course, no namers are always off pit sequence
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          • thekap
            SBR Rookie
            • 03-11-08
            • 15

            #6
            If anyone wants to make a few bucks you can lay Sadler -120 over Bowyer at Matchbook, and take Bowyer +125 over Sadler at Caribsports
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            • shock11
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-16-08
              • 838

              #7
              Originally posted by Big_Cheese
              Tony and Montoya have the best shot here... I see Montoya at 8-1 at some book, you better pounce on this cause after practice he want be close to these odds. 9-2 and 5-1 are good odds on Tony...
              Nice Tip Cheese looks like old tony is 12 to 1 and Montoya is 10 to 1. Guess you were right these odds are even close after practice and qualifying
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              • rob
                SBR MVP
                • 08-23-06
                • 3007

                #8
                I like Scott Pruett as a driver, but I'm not optimistic about his chances for a top finish as he won't be at final practice since he's racing in Ohio on Saturday.
                I'll probably pass on playing this race. NASCAR races on tracks where passing is at a premium are more difficult than normal to cap. These generally come down to who has the best pit strategy and fuel mileage.
                These type of races are generally the best chances for a long-shot. Although when it comes down to pit strategy, I'll take Johnson - with the best crew chief in the business, Chad Knaus - over the rest.
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                • hawk 5
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-12-06
                  • 3982

                  #9
                  I'd think you could take Montoya and Steward out of your betting lineup. I'm liking both Gordons. Going with Shock on Ambrose top 5.
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                  • hawk 5
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-12-06
                    • 3982

                    #10
                    So far I have Robby at + 980 and Ambrose top 3.
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                    • Big_Cheese
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 04-11-08
                      • 970

                      #11
                      Ambrose blows it... Fast cars only work well with good drivers... Gordon is +300 and has the best shot at this point. He was on the pole all the way around the track during qualifying until he missed the last turn. I would guess 5 wins counts for something here. Dont know what the deal with Tony was, Guantee he still makes the top 10 however.
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                      • shock11
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 05-16-08
                        • 838

                        #12
                        One thing you have to remember about Ambrose is that all he did in Australian was race road coarses like sears point. It is not the car it is definitely him. Looks like he got his car working good in practice. Would of got the pole if he wasn't a qualify or go home driver. I will say he as just as good as shot as Stewart, Robby Gordan, Jeff Gordan and he is like 25 to 1 still.
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                        • hawk 5
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-12-06
                          • 3982

                          #13
                          Originally posted by shock11
                          One thing you have to remember about Ambrose is that all he did in Australian was race road coarses like sears point. It is not the car it is definitely him. Looks like he got his car working good in practice. Would of got the pole if he wasn't a qualify or go home driver. I will say he as just as good as shot as Stewart, Robby Gordan, Jeff Gordan and he is like 25 to 1 still.
                          He looked damn good in Mexico, he's worth a shot.
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                          • zootiehead
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-09-06
                            • 1715

                            #14
                            Probably just betting J Gordon +325 and Fellows +1800
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                            • Big_Cheese
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 04-11-08
                              • 970

                              #15
                              1st Win Ticket

                              Juan Pablo Montoya +800 (2.5*)

                              Source: BetGameDay --- Best odds I can find on him. Some are currently +500

                              I still remeber just how good he was here last year !!!
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                              • zootiehead
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-09-06
                                • 1715

                                #16
                                I have to read up on last year (shit memory) but didnt he get some luck?
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                                • rob
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-23-06
                                  • 3007

                                  #17
                                  I'm having a tough time understanding why Jeff Gordon is such a heavy favorite here.
                                  Granted, he has a great history at this track, but most of this season he's underperformed at tracks in regards to his history at those places. And his practice times haven't really been spectacular.
                                  Johnson qualified better and had better practice times but my book has him at +1585 while Gordon is +315.
                                  What am I missing?
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                                  • diogee
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 01-11-08
                                    • 19477

                                    #18
                                    Yeah zootie I believe that he won it on fuel mileage last year.

                                    rob...I am sure it boils down to Gordon owning Infineon and is one of the top road racers in the series.
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                                    • onlooker
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 36572

                                      #19
                                      Jeff Gordon has won 5 of the 10 races he ran there. Jimmie Johnson has a average of 20th in 6 races, with a best finish of 5th in 2004.

                                      Those are the main reasons the odds are the way they are.
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                                      • sharktank1
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 09-17-07
                                        • 970

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Big_Cheese
                                        Scott Pruitt replaced Reed Sorenson. He is on the field, I was able to get him and 17 other drivers at 25-1 odds to win and I laid $200 on the top 5 at 4-1, Scott Pruitt and 17 others. Feel great about this one. Some books still havent picked up on this. The one I wagered on Betgameday since updated the odds and they were slashed in half... Check you book andlook at the field odds.
                                        In Saturdays' Sacramento BEE (newspaper) Pruitt (who is from nearby Auburn) had this to say:

                                        "Truthfully, I was a little disappointed with our performance. It's a 105 degrees, which is smoking hot...We just seemed to slide around and really didn't have any bite during our run."

                                        As an FYI, he qualified only 27'th in his Dodge.
                                        No value here.

                                        So I'm backing a couple of the known road course "ringers" instead.

                                        # 60 Boris Said, @ (+) 2400,
                                        # 1 Ron Fellows, @ (+) 1800.

                                        GL Guys!
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                                        • hawk 5
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 09-12-06
                                          • 3982

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sharktank1
                                          In Saturdays' Sacramento BEE (newspaper) Pruitt (who is from nearby Auburn) had this to say:

                                          "Truthfully, I was a little disappointed with our performance. It's a 105 degrees, which is smoking hot...We just seemed to slide around and really didn't have any bite during our run."

                                          As an FYI, he qualified only 27'th in his Dodge.
                                          No value here.

                                          So I'm backing a couple of the known road course "ringers" instead.

                                          # 60 Boris Said, @ (+) 2400,
                                          # 1 Ron Fellows, @ (+) 1800.

                                          GL Guys!
                                          I don't think a road ringer has ever won this. Close a few times. Ron Fellows may run well, but Boris pisses too many regulars off with his overaggressive style. He'll get turned too often to win.
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                                          • hawk 5
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-12-06
                                            • 3982

                                            #22
                                            Adding J Gordon +395, autobet
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                                            • Mr Nuts
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-22-05
                                              • 1383

                                              #23
                                              Said vs Mcmurray
                                              Mcmurray +105
                                              5 units
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                                              • shock11
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 05-16-08
                                                • 838

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Big_Cheese
                                                Juan Pablo Montoya +800 (2.5*)

                                                Source: BetGameDay --- Best odds I can find on him. Some are currently +500

                                                I still remeber just how good he was here last year !!!

                                                Juan Pablo did not even get close to being good here last year. He got luck on fuel and won't get lucky twice.

                                                I will take
                                                Top 3 Ron Fellows 10 to 1
                                                Robby Gordan to win 8 to 1
                                                Top 3 Boris Said 9 to 1
                                                Jamie McMurray to Win 25 to 1
                                                Ambrose to win 20 to 1
                                                Exacta box Robby Gordan/Ambrose 215 to1
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                                                • Mr Nuts
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 08-22-05
                                                  • 1383

                                                  #25
                                                  Top 3 Harvick +515
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                                                  • hawk 5
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-12-06
                                                    • 3982

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by shock11
                                                    Juan Pablo did not even get close to being good here last year. He got luck on fuel and won't get lucky twice.

                                                    I will take
                                                    Top 3 Ron Fellows 10 to 1
                                                    Robby Gordan to win 8 to 1
                                                    Top 3 Boris Said 9 to 1
                                                    Jamie McMurray to Win 25 to 1
                                                    Ambrose to win 20 to 1
                                                    Exacta box Robby Gordan/Ambrose 215 to1
                                                    Good luck with that exacta, hope it hits. Then I win too.
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                                                    • Big_Cheese
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 04-11-08
                                                      • 970

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by shock11
                                                      Juan Pablo did not even get close to being good here last year. He got luck on fuel and won't get lucky twice.

                                                      I will take
                                                      Top 3 Ron Fellows 10 to 1
                                                      Robby Gordan to win 8 to 1
                                                      Top 3 Boris Said 9 to 1
                                                      Jamie McMurray to Win 25 to 1
                                                      Ambrose to win 20 to 1
                                                      Exacta box Robby Gordan/Ambrose 215 to1
                                                      Montoya Tore through the entire field twice last year... hey will see... This is the only track Montoya will ever be good at, So he might even take out a teammate again to win.
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                                                      • Big_Cheese
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 04-11-08
                                                        • 970

                                                        #28
                                                        Match-up

                                                        Jeff Burton (-145) over Casey Mears (2.5*)
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                                                        • avssakic
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-12-07
                                                          • 1795

                                                          #29
                                                          Montoya +800
                                                          R Gordon +800
                                                          Said top 3 +1000
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                                                          • Big_Cheese
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 04-11-08
                                                            • 970

                                                            #30
                                                            Matchup

                                                            Carl Edwards (+100) (1.5*)
                                                            Greg Biffle vs Carl Edwards

                                                            Clint Bowyer (+100) (4*)
                                                            Martin Truex Jr vs Clint Bowyer


                                                            Source: SI
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                                                            • Big_Cheese
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 04-11-08
                                                              • 970

                                                              #31
                                                              Jimmie Johnson +1540 (0.5*)

                                                              Carl Edwards +3280 (0.5)

                                                              Juan Pablo Montoya +800 (2.5*)

                                                              Ron Fellows +4865 (0.5)
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                                                              • Big_Cheese
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 04-11-08
                                                                • 970

                                                                #32
                                                                Jeff Gordon (-120) over Tony Stewart (5*)

                                                                Source: Autobet
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                                                                • avssakic
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-12-07
                                                                  • 1795

                                                                  #33
                                                                  well the retard busch brother and the stupid austrilian ambrose cost me today. flippin idiots
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                                                                  • hawk 5
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-12-06
                                                                    • 3982

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Kyle can drive rather well for a retard. Moving on.
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                                                                    • avssakic
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-12-07
                                                                      • 1795

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by hawk 5
                                                                      Kyle can drive rather well for a retard. Moving on.
                                                                      I was referring to the other one
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