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  • Optional
    Administrator
    • 06-10-10
    • 60755

    #1
    2011 NASCAR Picks Games
    We may as well get this sorted out early.

    Here's what I have in mind;

    1) Head 2 Head picks game same as last year, but increase entry to 25 points.

    2) I liked the 100 point pool game we ran for the chase last year. Should we do one for the first 26 races? Or maybe split it up into 2 x 13 races and 1 x 10 for the chase?

    3) I would like to get 12 of us together for a "Punters Club". We each put in 235 points to purchase $250 cash at 5Dimes from the SBR store then have turns making real money bets each race. We can work out the details of how it will work if enough people are interested. Maybe a couple of you with plenty of points saved up would like to 'finance' the operation so we can start with a larger bankroll even.

    4) I'm thinking a season long simple pick a different driver for each race game, and use no driver twice. Add up their points to get a winner. If we make it 2 points per race to enter it allows the non-pros to participate and should still add up to over 1000 points for a prize/s by season end. <-- But that will only work out if enough regulars are actually interested in playing for 2 points all season, so speak up if it sounds too boring for you to bother with too.


    There were a few suggestions about Fantasy teams and other stuff at the end of last year. Personally, I'm not up for running anything too complicated, so if anyone else wants to jump in and setup a game like that please do.

    I think the point system and store prices change Feb 14th? And the Shootout race is on Feb 12th, so lets try and get the plan settled by the week before that, if enough people turn up back in this sub forum by that time.
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  • hawk 5
    SBR MVP
    • 09-12-06
    • 3982

    #2
    I like 1 and 4. Getting enough people for 2 and 3 would be tough especially with the pro not pro points transfer rule. Count me in on anything you go with.
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    • ATP123
      Restricted User
      • 10-30-10
      • 1094

      #3
      if i can build up enough pts id be interested in any of these, 4 seems most realistic and wouldnt be terribly hard to grade weekly
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      • your pixel army
        Restricted User
        • 12-15-09
        • 454

        #4
        4 would be a pain in the ass to grade weekly, and it would require everyone to be ready from the start. I think you'll start to see more and more people come here after the first few races.

        1 and 2 are both fun
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 60755

          #5
          Originally posted by your pixel army
          4 would [...] require everyone to be ready from the start.
          Good point.


          Maybe something simpler for #4 then, that people could play on and off.

          But with 2 points entry fee, it really needs to be a season long comp I think, as the weekly points pool will be tiny.

          I could try emailing Lou and seeing if SBR will cough up a weekly points prize, although expect he is already sick of requests like that... anyone reading with inside contacts please feel free to help.


          Keep the ideas coming.
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          • CarolinaDaze
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-07-09
            • 6844

            #6
            I like all four contests, even #2 Opti, Hawk & Me is already 300 for the winner and i'm sure theres more Pro's who would play.
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            • onlooker
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 08-10-05
              • 36572

              #7
              I will be here for sure.

              1 & 2 I liked from last year. We would have to discuss about a regular season #2.

              3 I'm not to sure about. That will be getting into real money, and I'm not into dealing with real money with posters over the internet. Who would control that $250 at 5dimes? Just at this moment, don't feel comfortable about that one.

              4 would help with non-pro's, but I think most of us are Pro's anyway.
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              • Optional
                Administrator
                • 06-10-10
                • 60755

                #8
                Originally posted by onlòóker
                3 I'm not to sure about. That will be getting into real money, and I'm not into dealing with real money with posters over the internet. Who would control that $250 at 5dimes? Just at this moment, don't feel comfortable about that one.
                I was thinking you might be the man if you were interested in doing it.

                Money can bring out the worst in people, but it's still only points we are risking really.

                I figured 5Dimes would look after us with player to player transfers of winnings at season end, so that part would be simple too.
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                • hawk 5
                  SBR MVP
                  • 09-12-06
                  • 3982

                  #9
                  Looker or Opti would be fine with #3. Just need enough people.
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                  • ATP123
                    Restricted User
                    • 10-30-10
                    • 1094

                    #10
                    im in a similar one to #4 but it doesnt add nascar pts it adds the spot that they finish so the lower the score the better
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 60755

                      #11
                      How about this;

                      Simplified version...

                      H2H picks game each week.

                      - Entry cost is a choice of 22 points or 4 points
                      - 2 points from each entry goes toward regular season prize pool. (see below)
                      - If a 4 point player wins the week, they have a choice between taking 15% of the prize pool, or being entered as a 22 point player for the following 2 races for free. Remaining prize pool jackpots to the next race.

                      *Logic for giving 15% of prize for 10% contribution to pool is that casual players are less likely to compete for season long pool, which they will also be contributing to.



                      Regular Season Pool.
                      - No extra entry fee.
                      - Your best 20 H2H game results from regular season 26 races count.
                      - If we average 12 players per week, like last year, that will be 620 points for the prize pool.

                      Organize a pool for the chase races when the time comes.


                      Punters Club.
                      - If 5 people play, cost will be 570 points each for $250 cash at 5Dimes.
                      - We start with 2 lists of members. ie:

                      Mem 1 Mem 5
                      Mem 2 Mem 4
                      Mem 3 Mem 3
                      Mem 4 Mem 2
                      Mem 5 Mem 1

                      - The top person on each list makes bets for the club that race, with 10% of the pool each.
                      - If the bet/s win at least double the stake amount in profit, the member gets to bet again for the pool next race. Otherwise they move to the bottom of the list.
                      - The same member can not bet for both lists at the same race. (next below jumps ahead if needed)
                      - If the balance ever exceeds $1500, we withdraw and distribute everything over $500. Just to avoid anyone ever getting nervous about too much cash building up. Better to keep it fun than worry about making a million here. (we can each get a free GP account and swap it instantly that way without much hassle)
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                      • Optional
                        Administrator
                        • 06-10-10
                        • 60755

                        #12
                        Had an extra thought.

                        For non-pro players. For every extra 2 points they transfer that week, they can take an additional 10% of the pool or one extra free entry.

                        Means a non pro can still win up to 65% of prize pool if they are serious enough about playing with us to use all their weekly transfers for the game.
                        Last edited by Optional; 01-22-11, 12:13 AM.
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                        • KingKolzig
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-02-10
                          • 5550

                          #13
                          optional, just wanted to day thanks for the avatar
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                          • ATP123
                            Restricted User
                            • 10-30-10
                            • 1094

                            #14
                            feb 20th coming soon
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                            • CarolinaDaze
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 11-07-09
                              • 6844

                              #15
                              Opti im in stand by mode just waiting on the final details. Ive got 570 ready to transfer when ya'll get it worked out.
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                              • Optional
                                Administrator
                                • 06-10-10
                                • 60755

                                #16
                                @CD... that's great news mate.

                                Originally posted by KingKolzig
                                optional, just wanted to day thanks for the avatar
                                LOL. Glad you like it.
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                                • rickie65
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-27-07
                                  • 2894

                                  #17
                                  the simplified version has me more confused....maybe it's the hangover effect.
                                  1 and 2 are good for me like last year.
                                  I have the points for 3 so I'd go in on that as well. I think Hawk needs to be in that too since I believe he was cleaning up at the end of last year and I want a piece of that winnnig action!
                                  4 doesn't appeal to me that much though....
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                                  • Optional
                                    Administrator
                                    • 06-10-10
                                    • 60755

                                    #18
                                    Yeah I just want to ride his coat tails as well Rickie!

                                    Avssakic's too hopefully. He picked 5 or 6 from 10 chase winners.
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                                    • hawk 5
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-12-06
                                      • 3982

                                      #19
                                      Hopefully I'm as hot this year as last. Gambling is as fickle a bed partner as you can get.
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                                      • Jankar
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-14-10
                                        • 129

                                        #20
                                        Hopefully I'm as hot this year as last. Gambling is as fickle a bed partner as you can get. - for sure
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                                        • avssakic
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-12-07
                                          • 1795

                                          #21
                                          I like em all. Im gonna have to read up on this non pro, pro thing. Haven't really been around here since NASCAR ended
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                                          • ATP123
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 10-30-10
                                            • 1094

                                            #22
                                            what was the 100pt pool one? weekly?
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 60755

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by ATP123
                                              what was the 100pt pool one? weekly?
                                              For the chase last year, about 8 of us put in 100 points each and kept a tally of our picks games results week to week.

                                              Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
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                                              • hawk 5
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-12-06
                                                • 3982

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by avssakic
                                                I like em all. Im gonna have to read up on this non pro, pro thing. Haven't really been around here since NASCAR ended
                                                Need to deposit 200$ into DSI book then let SBR verify. Otherwise you won't be able to transfer more than 2 points a day.
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                                                • avssakic
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 12-12-07
                                                  • 1795

                                                  #25
                                                  DSI only? Not any other books? Its so hard to deposit for US players now, fcking government
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                                                  • onlooker
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 08-10-05
                                                    • 36572

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by avssakic
                                                    DSI only? Not any other books? Its so hard to deposit for US players now, fcking government
                                                    Any forum sponsor. Just need to have $200+ in there when signing up for SBRpro.

                                                    How do I become a PRO
                                                    Simply prove to be an active member at one of the SBR Forum sponsors with a balance of at least $200 in your sportsbook account. The $200 must be present in your sportsbook account at the time you submit this form in order to be eligible for the SBR Pro upgrade. The $200 must be made up of a real-money deposit or winnings resulting from a real money deposit. Free cash or contest winnings do not apply. Follow the steps below to submit your sportsbook account number. A new account is not required.
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                                                    • soxwin1917
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 09-09-08
                                                      • 1188

                                                      #27
                                                      I'm up for any and all of those. I do share a little of onlooker's concern about dealing with actual money over an internet forum, but there are a few of you guys who seem plenty trustworthy to me (Opti, onlooker, hawk etc.) I'm looking forward to competeing with you all again.
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                                                      • rickie65
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-27-07
                                                        • 2894

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by onlòóker
                                                        Any forum sponsor. Just need to have $200+ in there when signing up for SBRpro.

                                                        I don't think it needs to be a deposit, just a balance over $200. If you can find a good bonus you can deposit less than the $200 but be over when the bonus kicks in.
                                                        Last edited by rickie65; 01-27-11, 05:28 AM.
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                                                        • hawk 5
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 09-12-06
                                                          • 3982

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by rickie65
                                                          I don't think it needs to be a deposit, just a balance over $200. If you can find a good bonus you can deposit less than the $200 but be over when the bonus kicks in.
                                                          Damn good idea.
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                                                          • onlooker
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 08-10-05
                                                            • 36572

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by rickie65
                                                            I don't think it needs to be a deposit, just a balance over $200. If you can find a good bonus you can deposit less than the $200 but be over when the bonus kicks in.
                                                            I would email Lou to make sure.

                                                            The rule I posted above said "free cash and contest winnings" don't count. But I could of swore I seen John say something about getting enough points to buy "free cash" from the SBRstore to become SBRpro.
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                                                            • ATP123
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 10-30-10
                                                              • 1094

                                                              #31
                                                              i should have been a pro a long time ago then, ive given tons of money to bodog
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                                                              • avssakic
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 12-12-07
                                                                • 1795

                                                                #32
                                                                I will see what I can do and hopefully become a pro soon
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 60755

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I've started 3 threads for the games.

                                                                  Fantasy Game
                                                                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                                  Regular Season Picks Pool
                                                                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                                  and

                                                                  Punters Club
                                                                  Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


                                                                  I'll start the first weeks Picks Game thread on the Monday before the 500.
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                                                                  • Broken-Ear Glen
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 07-31-10
                                                                    • 595

                                                                    #34
                                                                    gotta love fantasy nascar
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                                                                    • Mr Nuts
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-22-05
                                                                      • 1383

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Number 1 works for me. Probably wont have enough points to do the others.
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