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  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 52006

    #1
    MICHIGAN (Firekeepers 400)
    Alright fellas we are headed to MICHIGAN International Speedway this weekend, and also have a weekend triple-header on tap..The truck series will be racing at Texas motor speedway on Friday night on FS1 at 9pm, the Xfinity series will be on Saturday at 1:30PM on FOX, and we will finish up with the CUP series race on Sunday on FOX at 2PM...Next weekend will be an Off weekend for the series for fathers day weekend...

    MICHIGAN is a 2 mile D-shaped asphalt oval...The banking in all the turns is 18 degrees, 12 degrees at the start/finish line section, and just 5 degrees of banking on the backstretch...This racetrack is very wide and can have many different grooves, but just like Pocono it can be single file racing but have a feeling PJ1 will be used this week...Tire wear is a HUGE factor at MIS and being 2 miler strategy and pit stops can and usually play a factor.


    Look for mostly the same cast of drivers we have seen all year be the sane favs this week so probably have to get creative to have more than 2 of them but with 2 races before cup we will have our chances...Kyle busch usually isnt been very good here historically though...


    GOODLUCK this week!!!



  • 5mike5
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-21-11
    • 52006

    #2
    few early driver stats from my MIS notebook:

    Kyle Larson
    has WON 3 races in a row @ Michigan and is the for sure 2 mile king right now...3 wins total is tied with Kurt B. as the the only active drivers with 3 wins at MIS..


    Harvick in his last 10 Michigan races has 5 runner-up finishes and 7 of those 10 were top 5s, but he only has 1 Win at Michigan in his 34 starts


    Elliott has 3 top 5s here out of 4 career MIS races


    Truex Jr. has NEVER won a race at Michigan in 24 career starts
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    • 5mike5
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 09-21-11
      • 52006

      #3
      Kyle Busch last 10 MIS finishes:

      10th, 7th, 19th, 40th, 11th, 43rd, 39th, 41st, 31st, 4th

      as u can see not very good at all, but he does have 1 win here in his career back in 2011
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      • 5mike5
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 09-21-11
        • 52006

        #4
        the field for the XFINITY race is stacked this week:

        Kyle Busch, Menard, Harvick, A.Dillon and Bowman
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        • Optional
          Administrator
          • 06-10-10
          • 61527

          #5
          Interesting stats.

          Larson/Elliot sound good. But is Chevy good enough to get either home just yet?
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          • 5mike5
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 09-21-11
            • 52006

            #6
            Originally posted by Optional
            Interesting stats.

            Larson/Elliot sound good. But is Chevy good enough to get either home just yet?
            thats the problem not sure. Even though both have been better lately and the class of Chevys overall they still clearly are behind top 3 speed wise. But maybe being that 2 milers both Larson and Elliott's best track type by far may make the difference up? Just Not sure but this will be a good measuring stick
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            • 5mike5
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 09-21-11
              • 52006

              #7
              Logano also been real strong here too, 3 last 4 top 10s 2 of 4 top 5s, including a win (2 in 18 career starts) and actually Logano has lead the most laps in that last 4 races here span as well
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              • reigle9
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 10-25-07
                • 17879

                #8
                odds will be interesting at the top

                will it be the standard harvick, kb, truex, larson order or will larson be at the top?
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                • 5mike5
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-21-11
                  • 52006

                  #9
                  Wouldnt.be surprised to see Larson lower than busch maybe, but harvick will be the fav as usual. Hell maybe same 3 then larson way its going
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                  • 5mike5
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-21-11
                    • 52006

                    #10
                    Great number on Elliott +2250......

                    may get better # later but i was expecting lower so I had to take it early
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                    • Optional
                      Administrator
                      • 06-10-10
                      • 61527

                      #11
                      NASCAR Cup Series FireKeepers Casino 400

                      Kevin Harvick +350
                      Kyle Busch +500
                      Martin Truex Jr +500
                      Kyle Larson +650
                      Ryan Blaney +1350
                      Brad Keselowski +1350
                      Joey Logano +1650
                      Denny Hamlin +1750
                      Erik Jones +2200
                      Chase Elliott +2200
                      Clint Bowyer +2750
                      Kurt Busch +3250
                      Aric Almirola +4200
                      Jimmie Johnson +4200
                      Daniel Suarez +6500
                      Alex Bowman +8500
                      Jamie McMurray +11500
                      Austin Dillon +12000
                      Paul Menard +15000
                      Ricky Stenhouse Jr +15000
                      Ryan Newman +15000
                      William Byron +20000
                      Matt Kenseth +35000
                      Kasey Kahne +55000
                      Darrell Wallace Jr +55000
                      AJ Allmendinger +105000
                      Chris Buescher +105000
                      Ty Dillon +210000
                      Michael McDowell +210000
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                      • 5mike5
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 09-21-11
                        • 52006

                        #12
                        bout to grab Larson too, cant help myself i dont think

                        2 lower series races though so gonna gun for a couple parlays instead of taking much early but there a couple I like though
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                        • Optional
                          Administrator
                          • 06-10-10
                          • 61527

                          #13
                          Man I hate not being on the same side as you Mike, but just can't see any Chevy being able to close it out on a power track like this.

                          I'm thinking Jones' stats don't look bad again this week though. It's his best track where he has raced more than once in Cup. If you re-watch races maybe keep an eye on him for me?
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                          • Optional
                            Administrator
                            • 06-10-10
                            • 61527

                            #14
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                            • pimike
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 03-23-08
                              • 37139

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Optional
                              Man I hate not being on the same side as you Mike, but just can't see any Chevy being able to close it out on a power track like this.

                              I'm thinking Jones' stats don't look bad again this week though. It's his best track where he has raced more than once in Cup. If you re-watch races maybe keep an eye on him for me?
                              I think Optional has the right feeling on Jones. I was thinking same. However Mike is the guru.
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                              • 5mike5
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-21-11
                                • 52006

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Optional
                                Man I hate not being on the same side as you Mike, but just can't see any Chevy being able to close it out on a power track like this.

                                I'm thinking Jones' stats don't look bad again this week though. It's his best track where he has raced more than once in Cup. If you re-watch races maybe keep an eye on him for me?
                                This year My thing about Jones is he never brings it on raceday. Practices great looks good on thr sheets, but never that good the next day and always under shows.

                                Watched both races already from.last year and he did look good in both (jones) Like u said he did well here last year. Doubtful either wins. LOL

                                As far as Elliott just a longershot. In case something happens late i think he will be up there. Last time ill have him til august. Hes also.just really good here in his 4 starts
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                                • 5mike5
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 09-21-11
                                  • 52006

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by 5mike5
                                  few early driver stats from my MIS notebook:

                                  Kyle Larson
                                  has WON 3 races in a row @ Michigan and is the for sure 2 mile king right now...3 wins total is tied with Kurt B. as the the only active drivers with 3 wins at MIS..


                                  Harvick in his last 10 Michigan races has 5 runner-up finishes and 7 of those 10 were top 5s, but he only has 1 Win at Michigan in his 34 starts


                                  Elliott has 3 top 5s here out of 4 career MIS races


                                  Truex Jr. has NEVER won a race at Michigan in 24 career starts
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                                  • 5mike5
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-21-11
                                    • 52006

                                    #18
                                    F1

                                    Hams +135
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                                    • pimike
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 03-23-08
                                      • 37139

                                      #19
                                      That’s what I love about Mike’s capping abilities he looks at every little thing he doesn’t get fooled by practice runs, he looks at every little thing past experiences present experience and how the cars are running, Pitt teams.
                                      Shoot he probably even knows which driver had sex last night that’s how good he is..
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                                      • 5mike5
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 09-21-11
                                        • 52006

                                        #20
                                        Xfinity:

                                        Harvick (+625)

                                        just thought this was a great price...sure ill parlay Kyle on raceday and probably take 1 more early single
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                                        • Optional
                                          Administrator
                                          • 06-10-10
                                          • 61527

                                          #21
                                          tailed that one at +625. He's +400-450 elsewhere.

                                          I don't mind betting against Kyle in Xfin cars this year. JGR haven't been all that like previous years.


                                          Daytona Tyler Reddick Chevrolet
                                          Atlanta Kevin Harvick Ford
                                          Las Vegas Kyle Larson Chevrolet
                                          Phoenix Brad Keselowski Ford
                                          Fontana Joey Logano Ford
                                          Fort Worth Ryan Blaney Ford
                                          Bristol Ryan Preece Toyota
                                          Richmond Christopher Bell Toyota
                                          Talladega Spencer Gallagher Chevrolet
                                          Dover Justin Allgaier Chevrolet
                                          Charlotte Brad Keselowski Ford
                                          Pocono Kyle Busch Toyota
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                                          • reigle9
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-25-07
                                            • 17879

                                            #22
                                            Also took harvick but feel like about 7 guys could win.
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                                            • Optional
                                              Administrator
                                              • 06-10-10
                                              • 61527

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by 5mike5
                                              F1

                                              Hams +135
                                              I'm really keen on him to win in Montreal.

                                              He and the car is so good at the track my brain has been telling me to go big on him all week, but my gut has been telling me not to go overboard with Ferrari being better this year and Merc looking awful on the new Hypersoft tires last race. But a Ferrari has not won in Canada since Schumacher in 2004. It's just not a track that seems to lend itself to their style of car designs.

                                              I honestly don't think those tires will be as big an issue at this track, and whilst I think Ferrari could sneak pole, the Mercedes race pace has seen Hamilton cruise home with 30 seconds plus on the non-Mercs in his last 3 wins from pole.

                                              Anyway, kind of hoping Vettel gets pole so Hamilton odds improve and I have had a chance to see how they practice on the tires and what tire strategy might be.



                                              YEAR WINNER START TEAM
                                              2007-06 Lewis Hamilton 1 McLaren MP4-22 / Mercedes FO 108T
                                              2008-07 Robert Kubica 2 BMW Sauber F1.08 / BMW P86/8
                                              2010-08 Lewis Hamilton 1 McLaren MP4-25 / Mercedes FO 108X
                                              2011-07 Jenson Button 7 McLaren MP4-26 / Mercedes FO 108Y
                                              2012-07 Lewis Hamilton 2 McLaren MP4-27 / Mercedes FO 108Z
                                              2013-07 Sebastian Vettel 1 Red Bull RB9 / Renault RS27-2013
                                              2014-07 Daniel Ricciardo 6 Red Bull RB10 / Renault Energy F1-2014
                                              2015-07 Lewis Hamilton 1 Mercedes F1 W06 / Mercedes PU106A
                                              2016-07 Lewis Hamilton 1 Mercedes F1 W07 / Mercedes PU106C
                                              2017-07 Lewis Hamilton 1 Mercedes F1 W08 / Mercedes M08 EQ Power+
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                                              • Optional
                                                Administrator
                                                • 06-10-10
                                                • 61527

                                                #24
                                                Added Kimi Raikkonen +1200 for fastest lap.
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                                                • 5mike5
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-21-11
                                                  • 52006

                                                  #25
                                                  Might have to have kimi FL as well if his odds are still there in morning
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                                                  • 5mike5
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 09-21-11
                                                    • 52006

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                    Xfinity:

                                                    Harvick (+625)

                                                    just thought this was a great price...sure ill parlay Kyle on raceday and probably take 1 more early single
                                                    added:

                                                    Menard (+825)


                                                    Menard>A.Dillon(-135)
                                                    B.Jones>Reddick(+105)
                                                    open



                                                    Menard>A.Dillon(-135)...2X mx



                                                    That's it til I decide if i am parlaying Kyle B. or not on Saturday
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                                                    • 5mike5
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 09-21-11
                                                      • 52006

                                                      #27
                                                      weather looks very wet Saturday
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                                                      • Optional
                                                        Administrator
                                                        • 06-10-10
                                                        • 61527

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                        weather looks very wet Saturday
                                                        Of course. NASCAR race in the area.
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                                                        • Optional
                                                          Administrator
                                                          • 06-10-10
                                                          • 61527

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                          Menard>A.Dillon(-135)...2X mx
                                                          Do you like Menard or are you fading Dillon?

                                                          Menard record very solid here in Xfin which he races every year, but Dillon has 2 poles from 3 races back in his Xfin days and a decent record in Cup at Michigan.
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                                                          • unlearn
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 03-22-14
                                                            • 9037

                                                            #30
                                                            I parlayed Gragson +200 with Lewis +135 at Bovada (+605). Had to reload there after my Cavs let me down
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                                                            • unlearn
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-22-14
                                                              • 9037

                                                              #31
                                                              If that d-bag Sauter wins again I am swearing off trucks
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                                                              • unlearn
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-22-14
                                                                • 9037

                                                                #32
                                                                Opti any cause for concern with Merc not bringing the upgrade this weekend?
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                                                                • Optional
                                                                  Administrator
                                                                  • 06-10-10
                                                                  • 61527

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by unlearn
                                                                  Opti any cause for concern with Merc not bringing the upgrade this weekend?
                                                                  Unexpected but if there are any doubts I think they might still swap on Friday night.

                                                                  Seems to be lots of "stories" about engines and penalties going around this weekend. Red Bull playing media games with Ricciardo status as well.
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                                                                  • reigle9
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-25-07
                                                                    • 17879

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                                                    Added Kimi Raikkonen +1200 for fastest lap.
                                                                    how about +900?

                                                                    Originally posted by unlearn
                                                                    If that d-bag Sauter wins again I am swearing off trucks
                                                                    that's who i'm going with if odds get bet-able
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                                                                    • Optional
                                                                      Administrator
                                                                      • 06-10-10
                                                                      • 61527

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by reigle9
                                                                      how about +900?
                                                                      That's the minimum he would be any value at. I probably would not bet it yet personally. I only jumped for the +1200
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