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  • 5mike5
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    • 09-21-11
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    #1
    THE DAYTONA 500---5mike5
    Alright fellas the 2014 is officially about the start up with the DAYTONA 500 this Sunday....This is also a TRIPLE-HEADER weekend with the trucks racing on friday NIGHT, and the nationwide series also running @ Daytona on Saturday afternoon and the 500 on Sunday afternoon...

    hopefully this season is just as great as the last 3 season here have been, but im greedy so im hoping to do up the ante and have the best season we have had yet...appreciate all the guys help, cause this place wouldn't be the same without ya, and my wallet wouldn't be near as fat either..we are also using this thread for the Gatorade Duels on Thursday night, as no need to have 2 separate threads since they make most of the starting lineup for the 500 on Sunday...

    GOODLUCK this year and weekend guys, as always all the regulars are welcomed and encouraged to post opinions and picks in this thread...its for the group...and after Daytona it should get back to just the regulars since most people think this is only race of the season

    DAYTONA is a 2.5 mile high speed tri-oval ractrack...all the turns have a banking of 31 degrees, the tri-oval banking is 18 degrees...the frotstratch measures out at 3,800 feet long with the backstretch at 3,000..and picking the winner is a complete crapshoot, but somehow we always seem to find a way to do it...and by the next morning, we will all be ready to settle in for the real regular season of ovals

    GOODLUCK!!!

    Last edited by 5mike5; 02-17-14, 09:15 AM.
  • chase hardy
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    #2
    What's you're early leans mike? I took Dillon Khane and hamlin a couple weeks ago.
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    • leetreaper
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      • 10-23-10
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      #3
      Some preview:
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      • leetreaper
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        #4
        #Daytona 500#
        -------------

        February 24, 2013
        Daytona International Speedway
        Daytona Beach, Florida
        Race 1 of 36 in NASCAR Sprint Cup Series

        Laps: 200
        Track length: miles
        Race length: 500 miles

        2012 Top 10
        -----------
        1. Matt Kenseth, Ford
        2. Dale Earnhardt Jr., Chevrolet
        3. Greg Biffle, Ford
        4. Denny Hamlin, Toyota
        5. Jeff Burton, Chevrolet
        6. Paul Menard, Chevrolet
        7. Kevin Harvick, Chevrolet
        8. Carl Edwards, Ford
        9. Joey Logano, Toyota
        10. Mark Martin, Toyota

        Recent Past Champions
        ---------------------
        2012 Matt Kenseth, Ford, 140.256 mph
        2011 Trevor Bayne, Ford, 130.326 mph
        2010 Jamie McMurray, Chevrolet, 137.284 mph
        2009 Matt Kenseth, Ford, 132.816 mph
        2008 Ryan Newman, Dodge, 152.672 mph
        2007 Kevin Harvick, Chevrolet, 149.335 mph
        2006 Jimmie Johnson, Chevrolet, 142.667 mph
        2005 Jeff Gordon, Chevrolet, 135.173 mph
        2004 Dale Earnhardt Jr., Chevrolet, 156.345 mph
        2003 Michael Waltrip, Chevrolet, 133.870 mph
        2002 Ward Burton, Dodge, 142.971 mph
        2001 Michael Waltrip, Chevrolet, 161.783 mph
        2000 Dale Jarrett, Ford, 155.669 mph
        1999 Jeff Gordon, Chevrolet, 161.551 mph
        1998 Dale Earnhardt, Chevrolet, 172.712 mph
        1997 Jeff Gordon, Chevrolet, 148.295 mph
        1996 Dale Jarrett, Ford, 154.308 mph
        1995 Sterling Marlin, Chevrolet, 141.710 mph
        1994 Sterling Marlin, Chevrolet, 156.931 mph
        1993 Dale Jarrett, Chevrolet, 154.972 mph
        1992 Davey Allison, Ford, 160.256 mph
        1991 Ernie Irvan, Chevrolet, 148.148 mph
        1990 Derrike Cope, Chevrolet, 165.761 mph
        1989 Darrell Waltrip, Chevrolet, 148.466 mph
        1988 Bobby Allison, Buick, 137.531 mph
        1987 Bill Elliott, Ford, 176.263 mph
        1986 Geoffrey Bodine, Chevrolet, 148.124 mph
        1985 Bill Elliott, Ford, 172.265 mph
        1984 Cale Yarborough, Chevrolet, 150.994 mph
        1983 Cale Yarborough, Pontiac, 155.979 mph
        1982 Bobby Allison, Buick, 153.991 mph
        1981 Richard Petty, Buick, 169.651 mph
        1980 Buddy Baker, Oldsmobile, 177.602 mph
        1979 Richard Petty, Oldsmobile, 143.977 mph
        1978 Bobby Allison, Ford, 159.730 mph
        1977 Cale Yarborough, Chevrolet, 153.218 mph
        1976 David Pearson, Mercury, 152.181 mph
        1975 Benny Parsons, Chevrolet, 153.649 mph
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        • 5mike5
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          • 09-21-11
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          #5
          I pick mostly by odds and some longshots. But I usually bet along the same lines every year on plate racetracks with a few different picks here and there but I'll be picking and betting all week up until Racetime depending how odds shift besides who I alreaDy bet

          Daytona ans talladega are basically crapshoots. Not like a regular week when handicapping 25 hrs a week actually helps. This track u need more luck than skill to win the race. But I bet just as much money on this race as any other. I can't help myself. Plus I've been rather lucky at restrictor plate races. I hit 150-1 at dega last season so that proves any1 can win on those 2 racetracks
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          • leetreaper
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            #6
            From the first look i like: Johnson, Harvick or Kenseth. All are at +1200 currently.
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            • leetreaper
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              #7
              Boyer and Biffle got some good odds as well.
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              • 5mike5
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                • 09-21-11
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                #8
                Originally posted by leetreaper
                From the first look i like: Johnson, Harvick or Kenseth. All are at +1200 currently.
                Well those are the basic 3 favorites. Rough to bet those here but gotta have a few. Just hate betting any favs at plate tracks besides kennseth here and harvick at dega
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                • 5mike5
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                  • 09-21-11
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by leetreaper
                  Boyer and Biffle got some good odds as well.
                  If it was talladega id already be all over bowyer.

                  Biff is ok. He won here forever ago but always around usually for when it counts
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                  • Optional
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                    #10
                    Anyone think the RCR single car pace will mean much in the 500?
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                    • 5mike5
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                      • 09-21-11
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                      #11
                      But more favorites win here than Daytona because it isn't as wide as talladega. I like dega about 100x better than Daytona because passing is so easy there compared to here. But I was pleasantly surprised by the passing at the unlimited race on Saturday.
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                      • 5mike5
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                        • 09-21-11
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Optional
                        Anyone think the RCR single car pace will mean much in the 500?
                        I don't. But hell who knows.

                        Besides last 1/2 lap single car speed ain't gonna mean much. Who is this optional? Oh u already know this.
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                        • 5mike5
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                          #13
                          Most all us regular NASCAR handicappers can't wait for the 500 to get here because the season is starting, but are glad when Daytona is over with honestly. Because the regular oval racetracks we have the advantage of knowledge compared to Daytona where it'a basically a crapshoot. U can still have the best plate drivers to have a small advantage, but nothing like regular race weekend. But it sure is fun as hell
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                          • sweep
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                            #14
                            Cheers to a good season mike5

                            Just joined Carolina' s fantasy contest so Im planning on following the circuit closely this year
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                            • 5mike5
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by sweep
                              Cheers to a good season mike5

                              Just joined Carolina' s fantasy contest so Im planning on following the circuit closely this year
                              Thanks u my friend. Also need good wishes on a good season. If not I might need a couch to sleep on. Lol

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                              • onlooker
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                                • shaunovery
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                                  #17
                                  Finally season is here
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                                  • Vegas39
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Optional
                                    Anyone think the RCR single car pace will mean much in the 500?
                                    Should have a good idea in Duel 1 Thursday as Dillion and Newman near front
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                                    • JayHorne3
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                                      #19
                                      I took Dillon +3500 and Biffle +2350 about a week ago. I really like those odds on Biffle as he is an under rated plate racer.

                                      For anyone not extremely familiar with NASCAR betting, like Mike said these retrictor plate races are a crapshoot. Its all about getting the best odds at restrictor plate races. I will almost never take some at 10-1 odds or worse at these races because the playing field is so level in the draft. Yes there are a few guys that run really well at restrictor plate tracks but finishing well and winning is a big difference in the betting world. I personally think Dale Jr is the best at this racing but he has not won in nearly a decade at Daytona or Talladega (points races). Jr has finished 2nd in what 3 of the last 4 Daytona 500s? One of the next best restrictor plate racers IMO Tony Stewart has never won the 500. So just make sure you are getting great odds with your picks because even the best at this style racing can struggle to find victory lane.
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                                      • packerd_00
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                                        #20
                                        Ive got Harvick,Kenseth,Logano,Ambrose,Dillon,Bi ffle,Hamlin and McMurray
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                                        • shaunovery
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                                          #21
                                          Lots of choices to be made. As already said not worth taking anyone in single figures doubt if jimmie goes off at 18-1 like last yr .

                                          Of course junior,harvick,kenseth worth a look but definately value elsewhere
                                          Logano,mcmurray and newman as outsiders
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                                          • 5mike5
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by JayHorne3
                                            I took Dillon +3500 and Biffle +2350 about a week ago. I really like those odds on Biffle as he is an under rated plate racer.

                                            For anyone not extremely familiar with NASCAR betting, like Mike said these retrictor plate races are a crapshoot. Its all about getting the best odds at restrictor plate races. I will almost never take some at 10-1 odds or worse at these races because the playing field is so level in the draft. Yes there are a few guys that run really well at restrictor plate tracks but finishing well and winning is a big difference in the betting world. I personally think Dale Jr is the best at this racing but he has not won in nearly a decade at Daytona or Talladega (points races). Jr has finished 2nd in what 3 of the last 4 Daytona 500s? One of the next best restrictor plate racers IMO Tony Stewart has never won the 500. So just make sure you are getting great odds with your picks because even the best at this style racing can struggle to find victory lane.
                                            this is the post of the year. I honestly haven't read a more one point post in this forum. Besides mine of course. Lmao. And this fukker even spells good!

                                            Well said buddy well said
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                                            • 5mike5
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by chase hardy
                                              What's you're early leans mike? I took Dillon Khane and hamlin a couple weeks ago.
                                              I like those depending on the odds of course. I usually pick a guy and might bet him 4-5 times as odds shift and depending on the max bet I'm allowed.

                                              I havent bet any of the guys u would think yet til odds post again. I took just a few. Great plate drivers that are huge underdogs. Like David ragan and David gilliland. Don't laugh either, remember ragan paid me and and lot of people that tailed him off me @150-1 just last year at the other plate track talladega. More longshots win there but Dayton any1 can do it too just it's just not near as easily do e at because its a narrow track.

                                              For me, the real handicapping season starts next week after Daytona because luck doesn't play a big role. And I feel when I study for25- 30 hours for it I have the edge. As much as possible anyways. I don't do all that same intense hard work for Daytona. Ita a crapshoot. I use a list of drivers and swap a few guys depending on odds mostly. Maye 1 guy 12-1 or under only usually.

                                              Now when the 2nd race starts the real season starts for guys like me. But damn Daytona is so exciting I bet just as damn much on it too.
                                              Last edited by 5mike5; 02-17-14, 05:56 PM.
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                                              • WolverineFan
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                                                #24
                                                I know u gotta scratch that itch cause its been so long since bet nascar even tho mind tells ya not to bet as much but makes this race even more exciting..GL hope we all hit it this weekend
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                                                • JayHorne3
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                  this is the post of the year. I honestly haven't read a more one point post in this forum. Besides mine of course. Lmao. And this fukker even spells good!

                                                  Well said buddy well said
                                                  Thanks bud
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                                                  • 5mike5
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                                                    • 09-21-11
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by WolverineFan
                                                    I know u gotta scratch that itch cause its been so long since bet nascar even tho mind tells ya not to bet as much but makes this race even more exciting..GL hope we all hit it this weekend
                                                    Ur exactly right WF. R u gonna throw a few darts pal?
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                                                    • Slimpickens
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                                                      #27
                                                      Best of luck this Nascar season Mike!!! I will stick my head in here more often when the handicappable racing begins in Arizona.
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                                                      • 5mike5
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                                                        #28
                                                        they will probably put up the duel odds for those 2 races tomorrow

                                                        last tear i didnt even bet but 1 of them the odds were so bad imo for a plate race, hopefully they will be a little better this year

                                                        at least a few good longshots...if not i might just wat til the 500

                                                        but i ould love to see some parlable wins, but doubt that happens....might start a longshot Open parlay though....
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                                                        • 5mike5
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Slimpickens
                                                          Best of luck this Nascar season Mike!!! I will stick my head in here more often when the handicappable racing begins in Arizona.
                                                          whats up Slim!



                                                          yeah i dont blame u for sitting out ther crapshoot race this weekend, i just cant do it

                                                          see u in PHOENIX for week #2, when the handicapping really starts
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                                                          • DDT
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                                                            #30
                                                            I can't wait to watch the duals on Thursday in Prime Time!
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                                                            • SubjectMatterExp
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                                                              #31
                                                              My luck paid off in the first crapshoot with Denny we'll see what this weekend brings
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                                                              • 5mike5
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by DDT
                                                                I can't wait to watch the duals on Thursday in Prime Time!
                                                                I can't either. Gotta decide how I'm gonna approach them. Nope fully some good longshot parlay options or to start some opens.

                                                                But being a triple header weekend open parlays are not gonna be a problem!!! I might have several .

                                                                I Always say I'm gonna get my bets on this crapshoot risking less but always bet a lot as usual. Is be better of laying my rent for 6 months instead. LOL. But my luck is usually above average on the plate tracks so I never can. But I'm a freakin
                                                                monster at dega much more than here.

                                                                Guess ill just see about duels when odds post. Duels thurs, trucks fri night, nationwide Saturday , and the Daytona 500 Sunday. God damn it WHAT A WEEK!!!!! Lots of CASH to load up on my $$$ hauler!!!
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                                                                • DiggityDaggityDo
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by 5mike5

                                                                  Guess ill just see about duels when odds post. Duels thurs, trucks fri night, nationwide Saturday , and the Daytona 500 Sunday. God damn it WHAT A WEEK!!!!! Lots of CASH to load up on my $$$ hauler!!!
                                                                  And then UFC Saturday night
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                                                                  • leetreaper
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by 5mike5
                                                                    I can't either. Gotta decide how I'm gonna approach them. Nope fully some good longshot parlay options or to start some opens.

                                                                    But being a triple header weekend open parlays are not gonna be a problem!!! I might have several .

                                                                    I Always say I'm gonna get my bets on this crapshoot risking less but always bet a lot as usual. Is be better of laying my rent for 6 months instead. LOL. But my luck is usually above average on the plate tracks so I never can. But I'm a freakin
                                                                    monster at dega much more than here.

                                                                    Guess ill just see about duels when odds post. Duels thurs, trucks fri night, nationwide Saturday , and the Daytona 500 Sunday. God damn it WHAT A WEEK!!!!! Lots of CASH to load up on my $$$ hauler!!!
                                                                    When the first duals start?
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                                                                    • Optional
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      THURSDAY, FEB. 20:
                                                                      -- 7 p.m. ET, Budweiser Duels (60 laps, 150 miles each race), FOX Sports 1 (Follow live) (Cup Qualifying)

                                                                      FRIDAY, FEB. 21:
                                                                      -- 7:30 p.m. ET, NextEra Energy Resources 250 (100 laps, 250 miles), FOX Sports 1 (Follow live) (Truck Race)

                                                                      SATURDAY, FEB. 22:
                                                                      -- 1:15 p.m. ET, DRIVE4COPD 300 (120 laps, 300 miles), ESPN (Follow live) (Nationwide Race)

                                                                      SUNDAY, FEB. 23:
                                                                      -- 1 p.m. ET, Daytona 500 (200 laps, 500 miles), FOX (Follow live) (Cup Race)
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