PHOENIX--5mike5

[5mike5]

PHOENIX

To Win The Race:
Harvick (+1600)
Gordon (+1500)
Kahne (+1400)
Keslowski (+1200)

Cover wagers:
Kyle (+600)
Jimmie (+500)

H2H LONGSHOT parlay:
keslowski over Kyle B (+130)
truex Jr Over M.Martin (+185)
Dinger over Kurt B. (+150)
(+1750)

Well GL today everybody...still trying to see what these new cars do on a regular oval today so hope we get some good insight, but my feeling is wont change as much as we previously thought it would...didnt like any H2H for single bets to max out, so just bet 1 longshot parlay just for extra fun to watch during the race..after this race and next race in Vegas, ill know all i need to know about all the car and how odds ect have changed to be back on my usual betting methods every week....

GOODLUCK guys, hope we all bring home a winner today!!!

[Vegas39]

Gl Mike

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Just catching up on thread. Seems a lot of people on Denny from the rear.

That put me off him. Am I too concerned about it being hard to pass here?

[shaunovery]

Just catching up on thread. Seems a lot of people on Denny from the rear.

That put me off him. Am I too concerned about it being hard to pass here?

im more worried about the engine concerns starting at the back doesnt bother me look at kyle yesterday he went from 23rd to the front in no time

[cwbuff44]

basically if your cover wins its covers your stakes its not your main wagers but like a safety net

Ahh got it! Makes perfect sense now. Thanks a ton for the help!

[5mike5]

im more worried about the engine concerns starting at the back doesnt bother me look at kyle yesterday he went from 23rd to the front in no time

as u know already, HUGE difference in nationwide and cup though coming from back to front....i dont think either has a good chance.....but i could be wrong and hope i am if i lose my profit bets and either of those 2 has a chance...

im a team player!!!

[5mike5]

just hope it wont be too hard to make passes today

i dont think it will be though...that was 1 of the main focuses of this new Gen6 car so i think it will be fine

[DiggityDaggityDo]

To Win The Race:
Harvick (+1600)
Gordon (+1500)
Kahne (+1400)
Keslowski (+1200)

Cover wagers:
Kyle (+600)
Jimmie (+500)

In!

Except I did not bet Kyle. I only have Jimmie as my cover.

Thanks for your plays Mike.

Good luck to Everybody in this beautiful thread!

[5mike5]

Hey guys. I'm new here. Can someone help me understand what is meant by cover wagers? I understand head to heads and betting on someone to win. But what's a cover wager?

Thanks for helping out the ignorant lol. And good luck today!

i wouldnt really waste money betting covers every race unless ur betting a substancial amount of money.....becuase it can cost u extra money in the long run of the season usually, unless ur winning alot of the races then doesnt really matter

[5mike5]

In!

Except I did not bet Kyle. I only have Jimmie as my cover.

Thanks for your plays Mike.

Good luck to Everybody in this beautiful thread!

GL buddy!!!

hope we can make it 2 in a row after yesterday's race!!!

[JackalLion]

We're thinking just alike on the covers..I thought you might make Martin a cover too..although I know you said you weren't confident he can still win..but with the possibility of rain he may be up front at just the right time..

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I have

Jimmie +525
Kahne +1200
Harvick +1800


8002 Danica Patrick #10 +800* vs Kyle Busch #18

7558 Marcos Ambrose #9 +100* vs Paul Menard #27

[5mike5]

We're thinking just alike on the covers..I thought you might make Martin a cover too..although I know you said you weren't confident he can still win..but with the possibility of rain he may be up front at just the right time..

i was but changed my mind

0% chance of anything meaningful rain wise (least on weather.com but never know)

maybe a quick sprinkle or shower but wont shorten the race

if he wins it u called it early in the week

[5mike5]

1 reason i wasnt convinced on mark martin is he NEVER took a 10 consecutive lap run

i know hes fast as hell, but i like to see that 1 lap stuff backed up on long runs

[5mike5]

GOODLUCK guys!!!!

GREEN FLAG!!!!!

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Just realized that I bet Jeff Gordon twice by accident instead of just once.

Well... Now I know who I am REALLY rooting for today as he would be my biggest score.

[5mike5]

Just realized that I bet Jeff Gordon twice by accident instead of just once.

Well... Now I know who I am REALLY rooting for today as he would be my biggest score.

dont feel bad, i usually bet them all severl times...LOL...but on purpose

go GORDON!!!

[JackalLion]

That totally makes sense..I remember an interview a few years back where the King said that is one of the most important stats in practice..

[5mike5]

That totally makes sense..I remember an interview a few years back where the King said that is one of the most important stats in practice..

thats the ONLY stat i even basicallylook at from practice sessions...really the only meaningful stat from practices (just IMO)..other bettors may find things that help them so not saying that works for everybodu....thats why i dont base 90% of my bets on sessions...i mainly focus on past performance at a track, and also current form...but this early in season really isnt any current form to tell from yet

everybody figures out their own way to handicap nascar though...no right or wrong anwsers

[MatI]

im late to the party today so no bets for myself, but gl guys, hope you have a winner.

[yisman]

sportsline used to do a leaderboard that was nice and simple

no annoying chat or vids like ESPN.

But a few months ago they did away with their NASCAR section and just redirected to NASCAR.com

[5mike5]

well M.Martin isnt losing any speed on the medium long runs, so id say hes got a ricketship no matter what.....

still earlt but id be happy had i bet him

[5mike5]

KYLE spins and wrecks into the wall

[5mike5]

truex out, kyle no way he can win now (thnk god i didnt have time to bet more on him for a profit winner), and now bowyer with problems on pit road

lot of action early

[yisman]

KYLE spins and wrecks into the wall

Too easy

[5mike5]

well that caution and pit stops sure did shake some things up

[5mike5]

Too easy

i changed him out this morning when i saw he was having to start in the back (engine change) or i would have had him too

[5mike5]

there goes mark martin chances to WIN today

flat tire?

dont think its worse than that

[5mike5]

there goes mark martin chances to WIN today

flat tire?

dont think its worse than that

think hes fine now

[yisman]

i changed him out this morning when i saw he was having to start in the back (engine change) or i would have had him too

odd for someone starting at back to be co-fave

[5mike5]

odd for someone starting at back to be co-fave

books never adjust to that for whatever reason....

some tracks its not a big deal, but any non-plate track any driver shouldnt be close to a fav starting at the rear of any field imo

[yisman]

mike sometimes the odds get adjusted a lot depending on where a driver is starting, no? polesitter has inflated odds, and they usually penalize for starting at rear, I don't remember seeing this last year (rear driver so high on board)

[yisman]

I found ole Candy Ass at +700 at a book so I bet 50 on that bum

-50 bucks is a good raceday for me

[shaunovery]

looks open at the minute anyone can win this although kasey has a fast car but very poor on the restarts

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