hell yeah! nice run by deterministic !!!
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Oh my!!
Look whose relaxing and finishing i
Clean right eye . Race was over into the first turn when he settled.
Man that is so fun to see a horse mature .
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thanks guys..at this point i think we are just as much fans as concerned about the mutuels but nothing wrong with hitting at 9-2 .. as you said str was able to settle just off the lone speed and had plenty left for the stretch..kendrick rode him great
was a win and you're in race for the breeders cup and likely have one more race before that..need a little luck but I think he'll be a serious contender in the bc mileComment -
amazing how 2 turns on the dirt threw him for a loop in starts 3 and 4 but nothing but good things ever since putting him on the turf .. know it's not happening but I think he could possibly be a graded stakes horse on the dirt going 2 turns.. would love to see him try that if he runs next year .. my memory is horrible but seems like something you don't see much, if at all, in recent years or even further backComment -
Hey STR: the track in question is CT. The Rider is Arnaldo Bocachica. Every time I look at that track Bocachica is riding one of the favs in the race about 80% of the time. It gets old. Wanted your thoughts on the matter. thx in advance.Comment -
ah the ups and downs of horse racing....Comment -
put up sunday AM ..11063Comment -
He was still getting the hang of things and remember that long race where the rider lost his iron leaving the gate. That had him running scared and upset early not having a clear idea what all was going on.
It took him several months to figure that out. Clement giving him the time to mentally grow and develop made this horse what he now is.
Thats the thing about the Ky. Derby. It’s always such hype leading up to it and everything these young horses are trying to cram in mentally, you see the back end effect on horses that then put it together and learn to breath, relax, understand, etc. it’s really something to see isn’t it. All the crazy hype from babies up to the race. Then, it’s all gone and it’s off to the Preakness and Belmont.
It happens every year. Never changes it doesn’t seem.
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Hi EZ. Thanks for checking in. Yeah, he gets the best mounts, and he is the best rider. I do not know him at all. Never met him. I know he rides a lot for Runco who has all the ties with Md. trainers, owners etc. and those horses are always even money it seems. Jeff started out as a jockey. A bug boy for Bud Delp. He was before Ronnie Franklin .
That rider is very good especially against the other riders there. He is simply better. But he has a lock on the best horses. It does get old sometimes and he’s hard to beat but.. it’s not, IMO, that his talent alone is making those horses win. It’s not a Chris McCarron in Md. thing. It’s a very solid rider that is fed a pipeline of better horses and does very well keeping them out of trouble and making smart choices . He can pick and choose his mounts .
I remember talking about Runco before in here. I’ve know him for 45 years +. Let’s just say , not a fan at all.
I saw what he did time and again while establishing himself there waaay back. A back stabber and I’ll say IMO. But it’s not an opinion , it’s a fact that was repeated multiple times.
Not my kind of guy. At all.
I would not even acknowledge him if we passed each other.
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Again, I do think he is the best rider there. I don’t necessarily think he makes horses win that often, but it is rare to see him get one in a bad spot, stopped, or him screw up. Fans do over bet him which can create an opportunity to play against but he is very consistent from what I’ve seen.
Gotta give props for that. He seems ultra consistent.Comment -
oh yeah I forgot (and I shouldn't have) about the circumstances in those races and that was a good catch by you to see that ..if I remember correctly it was the left iron which you can only tell by how the jockey appears on the mount..that was the 2nd leg which I believe is the withers and then with that bad experience went on to the wood ..not an ideal sequence at all
can definitely see what you mean about the rush to the triple crown races not being the ideal learning environment for them..starting a horse off in the spring of his 3yo year when it's more mature and developed physically might lead to a better career long haul but will mostly be a secondary option with all the glitz and money of running early
definitely have more appreciation of the process of getting these young horses ready from you and certainly the clement's did a great job with deterministicComment -
previous weeks
10959/10994/10999/11026/11063
week 6 .. 8/4-8/10
opening day sar to last day dmr (mid sept)
army mule progeny at ...
saratoga/del mar/monmouth/ellis/colonial
monday and tuesday will look at all tracks ..weds to sunday the 5 above
everything for this week will be in this post
will be a notification when I post
8/4 monday ****
thistledown 4 @ 2:30
#1 sgt york (7-2)
out @ 5-1 .. 1-5 (odds) won the race
ellis 5 @ 2:44
#6 army girl (10-1)
3rd @ 5-1 .. photo for 2nd
presque isle 7 @ 6:12
#9 grade a (8-1) listed stakes
4th @ 5-1 .. photo for 3rd
all 3 off @ same odds
8/5 tuesday ****
nothing
8/6 wednesday ****
only 2 core tracks ..nothing
8/7 thursday ****
nothing
8/8 friday ****
nothing
8/9 saturday ****
nothing
8/10 sunday ****
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only because it's a listed stakes race an AM won at 10f on the turf at woodbine on saturday and paid $5.90..added to the week's results (11063) and mentioned it was posted after the raceComment -
The Saratoga yearling sales are going on this week. You will need to sit down to see the prices that these yearlings are selling for.
2.7 million is the high so far.
incredible !!
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Into Mischief colt goes for $4.1 million. He is quite the sire.Comment -
I saw the video of that on Bloodhorse YT channel. It sucks losing Aqueduct but it looks like the new Belmont and Pimilco are going to be catalysts.. I see more big money getting in. They don't know much but they can buy experience and insight because the disposition is to save the industry which took a beating from legal sports betting. With the right management in media and government I think horse racing can at least hold its own but more likely, even grow participation rates. If the purses are going up someday soon it would make a lot of sense to pay bigger money not just on inflation but higher stakes payouts. Hope I'm not being too optimistic but I doubt it because Saratoga is getting a lot of looks and Belmont opening will be major.Comment -
I went back to look a Into Mischief's first year at stud and the fee was $12,500 and we know what he demands now. Now, Army Mule is getting much better mares and if his babies keep doing this I will tip my hat to either JBEX or STR that had him pegged way before his youngsters started to race.Comment -
noticed AM cost a boatload relative to his pedigree .. crushed them his first race and kept an eye out for his next start ..me and str discussed before and after all 3 races in his career and off 3 brilliant performances (won by 22+ lengths cumulatively, none by less than 6L) thought he might make a good sire and he certainly has exceeded expectations
it will be interesting pigpen..next year will be the 1st increased fee crop and the following year his fee doubled from that .. be cool to see how his progeny does with better quality mares..if he peaked as a $40-50k sire that'd be a nice accomplishment but you never know ..into mischief is a good example that it is possible to climb all the way to the top starting as an inexpensive sireComment -
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big prices! of note
hip 139 a Violence colt of an Army Mule mare went for 400,000
Seize the Grey's half sister hip 209 went for 1,0025!
Hip 222 a Half sister to my horse"black tie affair" went for 285,000
Hip 165 a Into mischief filly was RNA'd at 3.9 million!! WTH???? reserve was at 4 million..... I think I would have let the filly go... so much can happen to them.....
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JBEX mentioned him to me in the beginning. He deserves the credit for finding him Since then, we have both had a great time watching him grow.
The things his offspring bring to the table is simply different than what most horses do across the board.
Consistency is always wished for but with these AM’s it’s part of the package. That is rare.
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also nice to see army mule as a dam sire ..first time I have
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I don’t think you are being overly optimistic. Anyone that likes the game is going to naturally feel that way.
I sure do. So good for you.
Because of no head commission in place, the game was dying. Along comes HISA and solid ground is established.
It’s a fact that the people that participated in the game, former riders, trainers, vets etc. gave their time to help congress conceive rules that would eradicate the garbage in the game. That’s harsh , and there will always be a situation or circumstance, that will be unfortunate for the very few, but highly effective For the vast majority of those that did everything in their power to destroy the game for self gain.
I think the future is bright and the money is coming in from everywhere.
Every race track in the United States is so much better off than they were with the exception of those in West Virginia, and Louisiana. Those two places cannot be anything but corrupt, because that is where every corrupt participant has traveled to so they can continue to use drugs, cheat, etc.
All that shows me is the list of names of people that know damn well they cannot compete unless they take an edge. I find that pathetic. You cannot condemn every single person that competes in those two states but….. Who would want to be an honest trainer and have to go to work every day, knowing that more than a couple of the surrounding trainers you compete against are not. I know I didn’t.Comment -
no army mule's at our tracks todayComment
