Down Under Racing

[kopite]

I will be posting all my bets here for Aussie racing for the next 4 to 5 months (how long depends how it goes I guess!) to keep a formal "public" record of my new methods.

The bets will be posted by approx 11.45am EST (that is EST in Aus of course).
All race times are also EST

My current strike rate is over 25% (of total races bet that is as sometimes have more than 1 in a race) with a decent ROI

I will track using 1 unit bets per selection. The odds used will be official IASBET.COM Super Price Win/Place odds

I will also post Hong Kong bets and they will be included in overall record.

Like all betting methods there will be losing streaks but here's hoping the overall picture is

Today : 6 May - Gosford R2 - 14 Ausbred Royal @ 12.38pm

[jw]

Excellent - been looking for someone who knows something about Australian racing Good Luck.

[gtkid911]

Australian races are freaking awesome. Totally different spin on racing

[joemc44]

try ( unitab.com) it has aussie charts.

[singgooner]

Americans do have their own site for Australian Racing for the live 2 cards going into Las Vegas and other casinos.

Check out this web-site

http://www.australianracing.com/

All the info you need to gamble on the 2 Aussie cards that are sent via satellite to USA

[singgooner]

[COLOR=#000000 !important]Australian Racing going into Las Vegas and casinos - online free replays -

http://www.australianracing.com/pages/replay/9.php[/COLOR]

[kopite]

Australian races are freaking awesome. Totally different spin on racing

Definitely different to USA racing. The only time I was in the States I went to Hollywood Park and met this great old couple who told me all Aussies know nothing about their own racing because when they visited Aus they saw we get so many big priced winners

Their theory was if we knew how to cap properly the winners would end up much shorter. First I laughed now I often wonder if they were right

[jw]

Americans do have their own site for Australian Racing for the live 2 cards going into Las Vegas and other casinos.

Check out this web-site

http://www.australianracing.com/

All the info you need to gamble on the 2 Aussie cards that are sent via satellite to USA

Nice - hadn't seen that before - thanks

[kopite]

Excellent - been looking for someone who knows something about Australian racing Good Luck.

Thanks jw. If you do follow make sure you have a bank. There are millions of cash mgnt theories and each to their own to suit personalities. My longest run of outs this year has been 18 so draw downs are to be expected. I use a bank of 100 units.

Record 0-1 -1 unit

[jw]

Thanks jw. If you do follow make sure you have a bank. There are millions of cash mgnt theories and each to their own to suit personalities. My longest run of outs this year has been 18 so draw downs are to be expected. I use a bank of 100 units.

Record 0-1 -1 unit

I have had some success in Australian racing using speed ratings in the non-maiden races .. unfortunately the only decent speed ratings I could find were quite expensive - so I could not really justify the spend each day while i fine tuned the selection method. Do you know of any sites that provide basic speed ratings for free or for a reasonable price?

[trytrytry]

please cap the USA pooled Australian races and give us a shout when you see something u like as well! BOL...

[singgooner]

Guys - the schedule for the Casino Australian 2 live cards going into USA :-

http://www.australianracing.com/pages/schedule/5.php

Friday 7th May - Gold Coast & Rosehill
Saturday 8th May - Sale & Geelong
Sunday 9th May - Grafton & Goulburn

[kopite]

Nothing so far today. Had 2 really strong picks for Sunshine Coast but both scratched

[kopite]

please cap the USA pooled Australian races and give us a shout when you see something u like as well! BOL...

i see you have Bendigo racing today (and Wagga which is a track I have never looked at).

For Bendigo I have a method which since 1 Jan 2009 has had 103 bets for 35 wins (SR of approx 34%). The ROI is approx 24% of this period. The longest run of outs has been 10. The last 5 bets have all run 2nd or 3rd so currently at 5 outs.

Can be bet aggressively for place only (2nd or 3rd in fields of 8 or more - not sure what you can get over there). Level stakes place betting has returned a profit approx 9% ROI over the same number of bets at a strike rate of approx 63%.

These aren't going to be included in my plays but bearing the above in mind here are the picks using this method :

Race 1 - 1 Bel Shandy 12.21 pm
Race 2 - 13 Super Swell 12.57pm
Race 3 - 1 Anudjawun 1.32pm
Race 4 - 7 Unbendable 1.55pm
Race 7 - 2 Mr Testa 3.55pm

[kopite]

i see you have Bendigo racing today (and Wagga which is a track I have never looked at).

For Bendigo I have a method which since 1 Jan 2009 has had 103 bets for 35 wins (SR of approx 34%). The ROI is approx 24% of this period. The longest run of outs has been 10. The last 5 bets have all run 2nd or 3rd so currently at 5 outs.

Can be bet aggressively for place only (2nd or 3rd in fields of 8 or more - not sure what you can get over there). Level stakes place betting has returned a profit approx 9% ROI over the same number of bets at a strike rate of approx 63%.

These aren't going to be included in my plays but bearing the above in mind here are the picks using this method :

Race 1 - 1 Bel Shandy 12.21 pm WON $10.41, Place $2.96
Race 2 - 13 Super Swell 12.57pm 2nd Place $2.93
Race 3 - 1 Anudjawun 1.32pm WON $3.98 Place $1.62
Race 4 - 7 Unbendable 1.55pm 2nd Place $1.21
Race 7 - 2 Mr Testa 3.55pm WON $2.64 Place $1.51

Good day if you followed these over your way - or even here for that matter

I had a half unit on each. They weren't my recorded bets as I haven't finalised some of my approaches yet but will take the profit nonetheless.

One unit each bet for the win = +12.03 Units

[kopite]

I have had some success in Australian racing using speed ratings in the non-maiden races .. unfortunately the only decent speed ratings I could find were quite expensive - so I could not really justify the spend each day while i fine tuned the selection method. Do you know of any sites that provide basic speed ratings for free or for a reasonable price?

Sorry I don't. Good speed rating services for our racing are few. The best I ever saw was a guy who modified an American program but he doesn't sell the ratings.

[mtneer1212]

There are three classes of tracks in Australia:

M = Metro tracks (i.e. Belmont, Santa Anita, Churchill)
P = Provential (i.e. Fairgrounds, Oaklawn, Philadelphia, Golden Gate/Bay Meadows)
C - Country (i.e. Evangeline, Finger Lakes, Penn National, Turfway, Hoosier)

It helps when evaluating past performances.....

[kopite]

Saturday 8 May

Rosehill : R5 - 5 Informality

Gold Coast : R1 - 4 Teary Eyed
R6 - 6 Stryker
R7 - 13 Gold Water

Ipswich : R3 - 1 Cardio
R5 - 2 Puccini

Flemington : R2 - 6 Miss Octopussy
R7 - 1 Star Scream
R8 - 9 Two Hills

Saturdays are always the biggest days. More to follow later when all scratchings are in plus Hong Kong tonight

[kopite]

There are three classes of tracks in Australia:

M = Metro tracks (i.e. Belmont, Santa Anita, Churchill)
P = Provential (i.e. Fairgrounds, Oaklawn, Philadelphia, Golden Gate/Bay Meadows)
C - Country (i.e. Evangeline, Finger Lakes, Penn National, Turfway, Hoosier)

It helps when evaluating past performances.....

Ur right but the revamped race class figures which have been around for a while help bring it all together. All my methods include race class evaluation.

[jw]

Saturday 8 May

Rosehill : R5 - 5 Informality

Gold Coast : R1 - 4 Teary Eyed
R6 - 6 Stryker
R7 - 13 Gold Water

Ipswich : R3 - 1 Cardio
R5 - 2 Puccini

Flemington : R2 - 6 Miss Octopussy
R7 - 1 Star Scream
R8 - 9 Two Hills

Good Luck !

was with you on the first .. R1 - 4 Teary Eyed ...



another winner "Rosehill : R5 - 5 Informality"

[shari91]

Saturday 8 May Rosehill : R5 - 5 Informality Gold Coast : R1 - 4 Teary Eyed R6 - 6 Stryker R7 - 13 Gold Water Ipswich : R3 - 1 Cardio R5 - 2 Puccini Flemington : R2 - 6 Miss Octopussy R7 - 1 Star Scream R8 - 9 Two Hills Saturdays are always the biggest days. More to follow later when all scratchings are in plus Hong Kong tonight

Best of luck!! May be heading to Flemington later in the day for a Member's late lunch so if I do, I'll be sure to check in here to see your picks.

[mtneer1212]

My two favorite races in the world are the 6 1/2 furlong race at Santa Anita down the hill, and the 6 furlong straightaway at Flemington.

[kopite]

So far 2 winners, a couple of 2nds and a 4th. Informality in Sydney was heavily backed so hope you got on at decent odds. I got over $4.40 for it but it only paid $2.92 at IASBET city super price.

Hong Kong picks :

R3 -1 Fresh Air
R4 - 11 Metro Rider
R6 -5 Central Role
R7 -12 Invinciblekindness
R9 - 13 Mr Topaz
R10 - 6 Bouncer

Honk Kong races are awesome and while my strike rate their isn't always the greatest the end result is still a great ROI. Lot's of value and not uncommon to get $30+ winners which more than cover the outs.

[sq764]

yuk

[jw]

Not able to get on @ Hong Kong or the other Australian tracks .. just have the US feeds available to me for the next week or so. Looks like I'll be able to play via Betfair soon though - that should open up a few extra tracks to me.

[rumple]

australia 8b #4 Black Routine

[kopite]

Thx for points but not necessary jw.

Hong Kong - Brett Prebble on fire and rides first 4 winners. Great Aussie jockey doing a brilliant job

[kopite]

Saturday 8 May

Rosehill : R5 - 5 Informality WON $2.92

Gold Coast : R1 - 4 Teary Eyed WON $3.53
R6 - 6 Stryker UNPLACED - POOR RIDE
R7 - 13 Gold Water 3rd - AGAIN POOR RIDE

Ipswich : R3 - 1 Cardio 2nd
R5 - 2 Puccini UNPLACED

Flemington : R2 - 6 Miss Octopussy 2nd
R7 - 1 Star Scream UNPLACED - TERRIBLE RUN
R8 - 9 Two Hills WON $9.25

9 BETS FOR 3 WINNERS - PROFIT +6.7 units NB - could have been better if you had secured early odds for Informality but that's the way it goes sometimes

RECORD 10 BETS @ 3 - 7 FOR +5.7 UNITS - HONG KONG PENDING BUT SO FAR 1-1 AND UP A SMALL BIT
(this doesn't include the +12 or so units yesterday at Bendigo)

FYI - If you ever see D.Gauci on a potential leader (eg Two Hills) at any Melbourne track then don't be shy and have a little go. He is in his twilight years but can still rate a leader better than most for you Gauci - great ride

[kopite]

Hong Kong bit ordinary last night. One winner from 6 and very short. Lost 3.7 units

RECORD 16 BETS @ 4 - 12 FOR +2 UNITS

[kopite]

Sunday May 9

Sale : R1 - 8 Treasury Agent

Geelong :

R1 - 14 Like A Guest & 16 Lucky Angel
R2 - 6 Voile Rouge
R4 - 3 Curata's Gift & 6 Fiscalist
R6 - 5 Sastre
R8 - 10 Dashalot

[singgooner]

Top tip for Happy Valley races from 1000m (5f) upto 1650 (1m55y) - pnly back your horse if it's in stalls 1 to 5 - the track is so tight -the other horse are at a disadvantage

[kopite]

Top tip for Happy Valley races from 1000m (5f) upto 1650 (1m55y) - pnly back your horse if it's in stalls 1 to 5 - the track is so tight -the other horse are at a disadvantage

thx sing I'll look into that.

[singgooner]

The official web-site for The Hong Kong Jockey Club is http://www.hkjc.com/home/english/index.asp

[kopite]

Sunday May 9

Sale : R1 - 8 Treasury Agent UNPLACED

Geelong :

R1 - 14 Like A Guest WON $4.48 & 16 Lucky Angel 3rd
R2 - 6 Voile Rouge WON $1.21
R4 - 3 Curata's Gift UNPLACED & 6 Fiscalist 3rd
R6 - 5 Sastre UNPLACED
R8 - 10 Dashalot WON $5.74 (could have shopped better but anyway)

Winning Sunday +3.43 UNITS

RECORD 24 BETS @ 7 - 17 FOR +5.43 UNITS

[MdnSpecialist]

Here's a site you might find helpful when handicapping Australia races..

http://www.racenet.com.au/stats/WetSires.asp

I use this site when the turf course is slow. When a horse is trying a longer distance then ever before..I also use it for maiden races..