Pick six rules (horses)

**davidchong** · 01-25-10, 02:35 PM

horse players.... any opinions????

**Trident** · 01-25-10, 02:49 PM

You should get the pool minus the takeout if the track doesn't pay 5/6 when someone hits 6/6, if they do pay both 5/6 & 6/6 then you should get the pool minus takeout and 5/6 pool.

Why would you ever play the pick 6 at a offshore to begin with is the bigger question?

**Brewers in 7** · 01-25-10, 02:52 PM

Originally posted by Trident

You should get the pool minus the takeout if the track doesn't pay 5/6 when someone hits 6/6, if they do pay both 5/6 & 6/6 then you should get the pool minus takeout and 5/6 pool.

Why would you ever play the pick 6 at a offshore to begin with is the bigger question?

I think most offshore books have limits on large multirace payouts..

**ncat12** · 01-25-10, 02:56 PM

Why would you ever play the pick 6 at a offshore to begin with is the bigger question?
good question although sometimes cant get out to the track and it is a pretty e.z. alternattive

**davidchong** · 01-25-10, 02:57 PM

bookings take $1 pick six....

**smitch124** · 01-25-10, 03:00 PM

ya playing non pari-mutuel pick 6s is not a good idea. You can hit 6 when no one else does and get limited in a big way on the payout on any other score.

I really don't know what the rule of an online will be on this, I do know that whatever it is you will get screwed to some extent.

**davidchong** · 01-25-10, 03:02 PM

5dimes, betcris, carib sports take $1 pick six...... instead of $2 at host track.
limit payoff are in the average of pick six... (20k, 25k and 30k).

the big question is, what happend to my ticket hit 6 of 6 and the host track no one hits 6 of 6.
No rules are posted in the differents wagering sites.

Pinnacle has a clearly rule that they pay the amount minus takeout (that i remember they took only pick six on breeders cup).

**ncat12** · 01-25-10, 03:11 PM

heritage is also another well established book that will take horses, as far as the pick six not sure on there rules,...have been w/ them the better part of 9yrs and never have had a payout problem,...and yes I have collected,..at least twice a year , not much ( in terms of times) but the major money when it is time is a beautifull thing

**Trident** · 01-25-10, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by ncat12

Why would you ever play the pick 6 at a offshore to begin with is the bigger question?
good question although sometimes cant get out to the track and it is a pretty e.z. alternattive

You can bet with ADW's like YouBet, TVG etc and not run into problems or issues like this as long as you live in a state that it's legal.

**jlgarciaiii22** · 01-25-10, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by smitch124

ya playing non pari-mutuel pick 6s is not a good idea. You can hit 6 when no one else does and get limited in a big way on the payout on any other score.

I really don't know what the rule of an online will be on this, I do know that whatever it is you will get screwed to some extent.

I agree... Not a good idea, Limited payout for a wager like this is not a good deal!

**exstatman** · 01-25-10, 05:16 PM

What's the problem with 5Dimes for a pick 6? If you're betting a major track, they have no odds limit and pay 80% of the pool if nobody hits the pick 6 on track. Plus, you can bet it for a quarter and get much better coverage than on track. Yes it pays 1/8th the $2 price, but the ticket cost 1/8th the $2 price as well.

**Busterflywheel** · 01-25-10, 05:28 PM

Originally posted by exstatman

What's the problem with 5Dimes for a pick 6? If you're betting a major track, they have no odds limit and pay 80% of the pool if nobody hits the pick 6 on track. Plus, you can bet it for a quarter and get much better coverage than on track. Yes it pays 1/8th the $2 price, but the ticket cost 1/8th the $2 price as well.

They are making a extra buck somewhere..

**exstatman** · 01-25-10, 05:33 PM

I've hit a few for a quarter and been paid in full, 4 figures, every time.

**davidchong** · 01-25-10, 07:27 PM

Originally posted by exstatman

what's the problem with 5dimes for a pick 6? If you're betting a major track, they have no odds limit and pay 80% of the pool if nobody hits the pick 6 on track. Plus, you can bet it for a quarter and get much better coverage than on track. Yes it pays 1/8th the $2 price, but the ticket cost 1/8th the $2 price as well.

5 dimes is a recreational site....

**andywend** · 01-25-10, 10:33 PM

If you're going to play the pick 6 at an offshore site, simply read the rules before doing so.

If they say they pay out the pool minus the takeout percentage in the event you hit 6 out of 6 and nobody at the track does, then you can play the Pick 6 there as long as you can trust them involving a large payout.

If the site doesn't reference it, then I would not play any Pick 6's at the site until they add clarification to their rules.

**davidchong** · 01-25-10, 11:01 PM

Originally posted by andywend

If you're going to play the pick 6 at an offshore site, simply read the rules before doing so. If they say they pay out the pool minus the takeout percentage in the event you hit 6 out of 6 and nobody at the track does, then you can play the Pick 6 there as long as you can trust them involving a large payout. If the site doesn't reference it, then I would not play any Pick 6's at the site until they add clarification to their rules.

ONLY 5 dimes have the rules clearly posted.... but they dont want pro players.... they lock me the racebook,

any other book with similar rules ?

**Busterflywheel** · 01-26-10, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by davidchong

ONLY 5 dimes have the rules clearly posted.... but they dont want pro players.... they lock me the racebook,

any other book with similar rules ?

They locked you out at racebook?

**madmaxx** · 01-26-10, 03:30 PM

If you hit 6 of 6 and no one on track has it you'll be more concerned about all the money you lost out on. only play pick6 at youbet,tvg,twinspires,etc...the same can be said for a large pick4 ticket. Even if you get the capped amount (20-25k) that is small compared to what 6 of 6 will pay at some of the larger tracks if only one person hits it

**Busterflywheel** · 01-26-10, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by madmaxx

If you hit 6 of 6 and no one on track has it you'll be more concerned about all the money you lost out on. only play pick6 at youbet,tvg,twinspires,etc...the same can be said for a large pick4 ticket. Even if you get the capped amount (20-25k) that is small compared to what 6 of 6 will pay at some of the larger tracks if only one person hits it

So why again only youbet, twinspires etc?

**madmaxx** · 01-27-10, 12:10 AM

Originally posted by Busterflywheel

So why again only youbet, twinspires etc?

These sites (horse racing only) will not limit your payouts..hitting something for over 100k and only getting 20k would suck

**aznguy777** · 01-27-10, 03:29 AM

well,i play at xpressbet.com right now.
it has a ok bonus.
i usually get the one that hits firtst or 2nd.
gut shot?
or if you know the potential?
i dont know.
gambling is gambling guys am right?
lol

**davidchong** · 02-27-10, 04:04 PM

Originally posted by Busterflywheel

They locked you out at racebook?

yes, my account is enable for sports, casino and poker. no racebook for me.

**davidchong** · 02-27-10, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by madmaxx

If you hit 6 of 6 and no one on track has it you'll be more concerned about all the money you lost out on. only play pick6 at youbet,tvg,twinspires,etc...the same can be said for a large pick4 ticket. Even if you get the capped amount (20-25k) that is small compared to what 6 of 6 will pay at some of the larger tracks if only one person hits it

differences its not too much, track pays based on $2... 25k for $1 means 50k for $2.
if i bet on youbet or tvg, i have to pay taxes. so around 33%-35%... my conclusion 20 or 25k for $1, its Ok.. stil a good idea to bet offshore...

**robmpink** · 02-27-10, 05:46 PM

Ok, here is my 2 cents. I will reply to other posts as well that caught my eye. Like one guy said READ THE RULES. It is a MUST. Some books will pay you if no one hits the mutual. Others won't.

It isn't that silly in playing pick 6's offshore if you know your surroundings. If your book has a 20k profit limit per race and you hit a pick 6 say at Belmont for 16k, you get 16k. If you did this at the track, you get 25% taken out in taxes. Same with TwinSpires. There are pros and cons to playing offshore.

BetJam offers pick 6's but they have a $600 cap? Now that is stupid to even play unless you play chalk and don't expect it to exceed the $600.

**robmpink** · 02-27-10, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by madmaxx

These sites (horse racing only) will not limit your payouts..hitting something for over 100k and only getting 20k would suck

I agree with what you say 100k and only getting 20K but this is where it is important to understand your surroundings. If your throwing bombs in your ticket at a major track it isn't worth it.

If you play mid level tracks and the pick 6 usually doesn't exceed 10-15K, why not?

**robmpink** · 02-27-10, 05:56 PM

There have been 2 times where I was the only one who had a winning ticket. I did play it at the track, thank godness. In 2004 I hit a $1 pick 3 at Tampa which paid 8k. The horses went off 23-1, 9-2, and 7-2. I played the pick 4 which started the previous race and lost the first leg. This prompted me to play the pick3. I still got about $600 for 3/4 on the pick4.

I hit a pick 4 at Buelah once for $3,200 and I was the only winner.

The book where I play now, if this happened, I would get a refund of my ticket. I keep variables such as this in mind when putting together a ticket.