Breeders cup what are your thoughts?

**joeyp1222** · 11-02-09, 02:22 PM

Well, i been capping the ladies card all day for fridays breeders cup races and hers what i come up with so far if they run in these races. Yhings may change by thursday but here what i got so far:

Breeders cup maathon---purse $500,000
mastery
nite light
eldaafer
gangbuster

juvenile fillies turf----purse $1,000,000
tapitfly
lillie langtry
house of grace
rose catherine

sentiment jet filly and mare sprint s--$1,000,000
informed decision
ventura
free fling soul
seventh street

grey goose juvenile fillies purse--$2,000,000
negligee-----maybe best
she be wild
blind luck
beautician

emirates airlines filly and mare turf--$2,000,000
rainbow view
magical fantasy
forever together
maram

breeders cup ladies classic
music note--got hunch zenyetta looses
careless jewel
zenyetta
life is sweet

these picks could change but i kinda like them
i really dont want zenyetta to loose but im covering my thoughts both ways here

**Mike_79** · 11-03-09, 01:30 AM

Einstein in the Classic is easily the best bet of the 2 days.

Justenuffhumor and Zacinto deserve a look in the Mile as an alternative to Goldikova.

**joeyp1222** · 11-03-09, 10:02 AM

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Here are a few more i looked at for saturday but things can change with the draws

juvenile turf purse $1,000,000
gallant gent
interactif
vale of york keras kitten

turf sprint purse- $1,000,000
california flag----maybe best solid play all day
lethal heat
gotta have her
diamonddrella

dirt mile purse 1,000,000
girolamo
cherokee artist
furthest land
mastercraftsman

grey goose juvenille purse $2,000,000
lookin at lucky-------------another solid play
d'funnybone
gallant gent
buzzwood

tvg mile purse $2,000,000
goldikova-----------may dominate here
cowboy cal--up against 3 euros his spot?
Fernely
gladitotus

still have 3 races to look at before the draws

**joeyp1222** · 11-03-09, 10:51 AM

Think i might have 2 solid winners what do you guys think? In the breeders cup turf sprint i think california flag is a stand out hes in great form and loves the poly and i think his competion will come from lethal heat but he should still win the other horse is in the grey goose juvenile where gomez will get lookin at lucky home for the 5th time. Hes another horse that loves the poly, 4 for 4 in california and i think he wins this one what are your thoughts on these?

**aggieshawn** · 11-03-09, 02:11 PM

when will friday form be available for capping?

**Mike_79** · 11-03-09, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by aggieshawn

when will friday form be available for capping?

Entries are drawn in a little over an hour. Past performances will be available tonight probably around 7:00 EST at DRF. I'm sure Brisnet, Equibase, and any other providers will have them out around the same time give or take a bit. Both Friday and Saturday races will be drawn and pps available this evening.

Joey, good luck with California Flag, but I think there's a bit too much pace in that race for a wire job.

In the Distaff/Ladies' Classic, I'd give a strong look to Cocoa Beach. Should be cycling forward again and her latest workout was phenomenal from a visual persepctive.

**Mike_79** · 11-03-09, 02:40 PM

One other thing Joey, I think you're spot on with Lookin at Lucky. He's a nice horse for Baffert and has been a bit lazy in his races only doing what he's had to. Likes to play and let others come up to him and then draw off again. He was another with a phenomenal workout in his latest. He was in company and drew off late - a good sign that maybe he's starting to mature a bit rather than goofing around with the competition.

**BGboothA** · 11-03-09, 04:06 PM

Now that Zenyetta is confirmed in the classic?

I don't see Zen cashing in the Classic, but I think it really opens the door for Careless Jewel in the ladies....

**joeyp1222** · 11-03-09, 06:56 PM

In the ladies classic it looks like this to me
music note,careless jewel, life is sweet,cocoa beach

**Mike_79** · 11-03-09, 07:22 PM

The Sprint may offer some promise. With Zensational drawing the rail and Fatal Bullet in the 3 hole, the probability of those two getting in a speed duel has greatly increased. With Capt. Candyman Can in the 8 hole at 15/1 ml, as a one run closer with a potential dream setup in front of him, he may be a great bet. My advice would be to watch how Oak Tree plays the next few days. The early part of the meet, one run closers dominated all sprint races.

**joeyp1222** · 11-03-09, 08:11 PM

baffert, sherriffs, jerry moss, chip woolleyBreeders' Cup Post Position Draw, 2009

FRIDAY RACES

BC Marathon
1 Black Astor, Alex Solis, 12-1
2 Muhannak (IRE), Ryan Moore, 12-1
3 Nite Light, John Velazquez, 4-1
4 Cloudy's Knight, R. Homeister, 8-1
5 Father Time (GB), Eddie Ahern, 3-1
6 Mastery (GB), L. Dettori, 9/5
7 Sir Dave, Joel Rosario, 20-1
8 Eldaafer, R. Bejarano, 30-1
9 Man of Iron, John Murtagh, 8-1
10 Gangbuster, Kent Desormeaux, 30-1

Juvenile Fillies Turf
1 Potosina, J. Velazquez, 20-1
2 Elusive Galaxy (IRE), R. Bejarano, 12-1
3 Smart Seattle, 8-1
4 Rose Catherine, J. Castellano, 8-1
5 La Nez, Mike Smith, 20-1
6 Jungle Tale, S. Bridgmohan, 15-1
7 House of Grace, Michael Luzzi, 4-1
8 Lillie Langtry, J. Murtagh, 3-1
9 Hatheer, Alan Garcia, 10-1
10 Tapitsfly, Robby Albarado, 8-1
11 Junia Tepzia (IRE), K. Fallon, 8-1
12 Lisa's Kitten, J. Leparoux, 12-1

Juvenile Fillies
1 Zilva, Jeremy Rose, 30-1
2 Ms Vanenzza, Joseph Rocco, 30-1
3 Blind Luck, T. Baze, 3-1
4 Beautician, R. Albarado, 6-1
5 Bickersons, Joel Rosario, 20-1
6 Connie and Michael, K. Desormeaux, 4-1
7 Devil May Care, J. Velazquez, 8-1
8 She Be Wild, J. Leparoux, 8-1
9 Champagne d'Oro, Martin Garcia, 50-1
10 Negligee, Rajiv Maragh, 6-1
11 Always a Princess, G. Gomez, 6-1
12 Biofuel, E. Da Silva, 15-1

Filly & Mare Sprint
1 Free Flying Soul, Mike Smith, 50-1
2 Sara Louise, L. Dettori, 9/2
3 Game Face, E. Prado, 10-1
4 Only Green (IRE), O. Peslier, 20-1
5 Silver Swallow, Alex Solis, 30-1
6 Evita Argentina, J. Rosario, 20-1
7 Informed Decision, J. Leparous, 5/2
8 Seventh Street, Rajiv Maragh, 4-1
9 Ventura, Garret Gomez, 8/5

Filly & Mare Turf
1 Visit (GB), 10-1
2 Forever Together, J. Leparoux, 5/2
3 Rutherienne, Alan Garcia, 8-1
4 Magical Fantasy, Alex Solis, 3-1
5 Pure Clan, 5-1
6 Midday (GB), T. Queally, 4-1
7 Dynaforce, K. Desormeaux, 8-1
8 Maram, J. Lezcano, 15-1

Ladies' Classic
1 Careless Jewel, Robert Landry, 2-1
2 Life Is Sweet, Garret Gomez, 8-1
3 Mushka, K. Desormeaux, 12-1
4 Lethal Heat, Alex Solis, 20-1
5 Proviso (GB), J. Velazquez, 8-1
6 Cocoa Beach (CHI), R. Migliore, 8-1
7 Music Note, J. Castellano, 9/5
8 Rainbow View, J. Leparoux, 6-1

SATURDAY RACES

Juvenile Turf
1 Zip Quik, Mike Smith, 50-1
2 Viscount Nelson, John Murtagh, 6-1
3 Codoy, G. Gomez, 15-1
4 Pounced, L. Dettori, 9/2
5 Gallant Gent, J. Rosario, 30-1
6 Awesome Act, Ryan Moore, 20-1
7 Bridgetown, R. Landry, 8-1
8 King Ledley, R. Bejarano, 20-1
9 Kera's Kittne, R. Maragh, 12-1
10 Becky's Kitten, J. Leparoux, 12-1
11 Interactif, K. Desormeaux, 4-1
12 Buzzword (GB), Ahmed Ajtebi, 6-1

Turf Sprint
1 Noble Court, J. Rosario, 8-1
2 Silver Timber, J. Leparoux, 8-1
3 California Flag, J. Talamo, 7/2
4 Lord Shanakill, Jim Crowley, 8-1
5 Get Funky, R. Bejarano, 20-1
6 Cannonball, R. Dominguez, 8-1
7 Gotta Have Her, T. Baze, 15-1
8 Square Eddie, L. Dettori, 20-1
9 Diamondrella (GB), R. Maragh, 4-1
10 Canadian Ballet, A. Garcia, 20-1
11 El Gato Malo, David Flores, 30-1
12 Strike the Deal, Kieren Fallon, 15-1
13 Desert Code, R. Migliore, 20-1
14 Delta Storm, G. Gomez, 10-1

Sprint
1 Zensational, V. Espinoza, 7/5
2 Cost of Freedom, T. Baze, 20-1
3 Fatal Bullet, E. Da Silva, 9/2
4 Crown of Thorns, R. Bejarano, 12-1
5 Gayego, G. Gomez, 5/2
6 Dancing in Silks, J. Rosario, 12-1
7 Join in the Dance, J. Velazquez, 30-1
8 Capt. Candyman Can, J. Castellano, 15-1
9 Fleeting Spirit (IRE), L. Dettori, 8-1

Juvenile
1 Alfred Nobel (IRE), J. Murtagh, 20-1
2 Piscitelli, K. Desormeaux, 50-1
3 Beethoven (IRE), R. Moore, 20-1
4 Noble's Promise, Willie Martinez, 8-1
5 D'Funnybone, E. Prado, 5/2
6 Pulsion, Mike Smith, 20-1
7 Vale of York (IRE), A. Ajtebi, 20-1
8 Eskendereya, J. Castellano, 10-1
9 Aikenite, Alan Garcia, 8-1
10 Aspire, J. Leparoux, 30-1
11 Radiohead (GB), Martin Dwyer, 15-1
12 William's Kitten, R. Dominguez, 30-1
13 Lookin At Lucky, G. Gomez, 8/5

BC Mile
1 Court Vision, R. Albarado, 12-1
2 Whatsthescript (IRE), K. Desormeaux, 15-1
3 Cowboy Cal, J. Velazquez, 6-1
4 Delegator (GB), L. Dettori, 3-1
5 Karelian, R. Maragh, 20-1
6 Courageous Cat, G. Gomez, 20-1
7 Ferneley (IRE), R. Bejarano, 20-1
8 Zacinto (GB), Ryan Moore, 8-1
9 Gladiatorus, Ahmed Ajtebi, 20-1
10 Justenuffhumor, A. Garcia, 10-1
11 Goldikova (IRE), O. Peslier, 8/5

Dirt Mile
1 Mastercraftsman (IRE), John Murtagh, 6/5
2 Furthest Land, J. Leparoux, 20-1
3 Midshipman, G. Gomez, 6-1
4 Bullsbay, J. Rose, 3-1
5 Neko Bay, Mike Smith, 20-1
6 Mambo Meister, M. Cruz, 30-1
7 Pyro, J. Velazquez, 10-1
8 Mr. Sidney, K. Desormeaux, 12-1
9 Chocolate Candy, J. Rosario, 15-1
10 Ready's Echo, Calvin Borel, 20-1

BC Turf
1 Telling, J. Castellano, 20-1
2 Conduit (IRE), Ryan Moore, 7/5
3 Red Rocks (IRE), J. Leparoux, 20-1
4 Allegre, J. Velazquez, 50-1
5 Dar Re Mi (GB), L. Dettori, 3-1
6 Presious Passion, Elvis Trujillo, 4-1
7 Spanish Moon, K. Fallon, 5/2
8 Monzante, R. Bejarano, 30-1

BC Classic
1 Mine That Bird, Calvin Borel, 12-1
2 Colonel John, G. Gomez, 12-1
3 Summer Bird, K. Desormeaux, 9/2
4 Zenyatta, Mike Smith, 5/2
5 Twice Over (GB), T. Queally, 20-1
6 Richard's Kid, Alex Solis, 12-1
7 Gio Ponti, R. Dominguez, 12-1
8 Einstein (BRZ), J. Leparoux, 12-1
9 Girolamo, Alan Garcia, 20-1
10 Rip Van Winkle (IRE), J. Murtagh, 7/2
11 Regal Ransom, R. Migliore, 20-1
12 Quality Road, J. Velazquez, 12-1
13 Awesome Gem, David Flores, 30-1

**The General** · 11-03-09, 08:25 PM

Going to a fun couple days as usual and here's to you guys cashing some tickets, preferably winners.

**Mike_79** · 11-04-09, 02:46 AM

After further review, Capt. Candyman Can is more likely to finish a late running 2nd. Fatal Bullet may drill this field. His pace figures and form cycle is way better than I had thought.

Einstein is still my best bet of the 2 days. Not often that you get a horse at 12/1 ml that should be 4/1 imo. I'm anti Zenyatta, Rip Van Winkle, and horses without prior synthetic experience.

**Chi_archie** · 11-04-09, 02:48 AM

I'm starting to really love horse racing...

no opinions at this point though

although I've grown partial to nite lite Rose Catherine and she be wild if they are going off this weekend

**Mike_79** · 11-04-09, 02:49 AM

Also, Radiohead has some buzz about him and is bred to at least go this far. At 15/1 ml and the addition of Lasix, he deserves a bit of a look as an alternative to Lookin At Lucky.

**Mike_79** · 11-04-09, 02:54 AM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

I'm starting to really love horse racing...

no opinions at this point though

although I've grown partial to nite lite Rose Catherine and she be wild if they are going off this weekend

It's a great sport Archie. It's been going through some tough times, but progress is being made with track management finally recognizing that lower takeout could lead to greater revenue. The head of the NTRA acknowledging betting exchanges is a great 1st step as well.

Best of luck this weekend with your wagers!!!

**BarkingToad** · 11-04-09, 06:30 AM

Zacinto looks to be tough.

**floridagolfer** · 11-04-09, 10:37 AM

Originally posted by Mike_79

The early part of the meet, one run closers dominated all sprint races.

If you remember, this was how last year's BC races went: Speed didn't stand a chance, so when you're handicapping this year's cards, you more than likely will need to keep that in mind. I hope the track allows each horse to run to its tactical best.

**joeyp1222** · 11-05-09, 11:28 AM

Fridays breeder cup selections 11-06-09 by joeyp

race-1
#10 nobelty
#5 royal punisher
#1 green card
#7 on fire

race-2
#1 cherryblossommiss
#9 stunningly
#6 aromatherapy
#10 toro bonito

race-3-----marathon
#3 nite light
#4 cloudy's knight
#6 mastery
#1 black astor

race-4-----juvenile turf
#10 tapitsfly
#8 lillie langtry
#4 rose catherine
#7 house of grace

race-5-----filly and mare sprint
#2 sara louise
#9 ventura
#8 seventh street
#7 informed decision

race-6-----juvenille fillies
#6 connie and michael
#3 blind luck
#10 negligee
#8 she be wild

race-7-----filly and mare turf
#5 pure clan
#4 magical fantasy
#1 visit
#2 forever together

race-8-----ladies classic
#7 music note
#1 careless jewel
#2 life is sweet
#8 rainbow view

race-9
#2 captains lover
#6 teamgeist
#3 closeout
#13 tizaqueena

saturdays breeder cup races 11-07-09 by joeyp

race-1
#2 smart bid
#3 m one rifle
#1 coronet of a baron
#5 supreme summit

race-2-----juvenile turf
#11 interactif
#7 brigetown
#5 gallent gent
#1 zip quik

race-3-----bc turf sprint
#3 california flag---------best exbox 3-9
#9 diamonddrella
#1 noble court
#7 gotta have her

race-4-----bc sprint
#2 cost of freedom-----close on zensational
#1 zensational
#3 fatal bullet
#5 gayego--hangs on for 4th

race-5-----bc juveniles
#13 lookin at lucky
#1 alfred noble------price horse
#5 d,funnybone
#11 radiohead

race-6-----bc mile
#3 cowboy cal---his spot
#1 court vision-----denies the euros
#7 fernely
#11 goldikovia---not as good as they think

race-7-----bc dirt mile
#1 mastercraftsman---far the best here
#4 bullsbay
#2 furthest land
#6 mambo meister

race-8-----bc turf
#6 precious passion---have high numbers on this one
#1 telling --- caught this guy closing at big balloons before
#5 dar re mi--- euro invader can steal this
#2 conduit----think he will be the beaten favorite here

race-9--------the bc classic
#8 einstein------leperoux gets him home again here at sa
#4 zenyetta---toss up--she wins or gets 2nd
#7 gio ponti----will be in the hunt
#3 summer bird---may be another beaten favorite

race-10
#9 battle of hastings
#3 meteore
#6 massone
#11 gtetsky

good luck and enjoy breeders days

**joeyp1222** · 11-05-09, 11:54 AM

here i the corrected selections previous post had 3 races friday mixed up so call me wacho lol

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Fridays breeder cup selections 11-06-09 by joeyp

race-1
#10 nobelty
#5 royal punisher
#1 green card
#7 on fire

race-2
#1 cherryblossommiss
#9 stunningly
#6 aromatherapy
#10 toro bonito

race-3-----marathon
#3 nite light
#4 cloudy's knight
#6 mastery
#1 black astor

race-4-----juvenile turf
#10 tapitsfly
#8 lillie langtry
#4 rose catherine
#7 house of grace

race-5-----juvenile fillies
#6 connie and michael
#3 blind luck
#10 negligee
#8 she be wild

race-6-----filly and mare turf
#5 pure clan
#4 magical fantasy
#1 visit
#2 forever together

race-7-----filly and mare sprint
#2 sara louise
#9 ventura
#8 seventh street
#7 inforned decision

race-8-----ladies classic
#7 music note
#1 careless jewel
#2 life is sweet
#8 rainbow view

race-9
#2 captains lover
#6 teamgeist
#3 closeout
#13 tizaqueena

saturdays breeder cup races 11-07-09 by joeyp

race-1
#2 smart bid
#3 m one rifle
#1 coronet of a baron
#5 supreme summit

race-2-----juvenile turf
#11 interactif
#7 brigetown
#5 gallent gent
#1 zip quik

race-3-----bc turf sprint
#3 california flag---------best exbox 3-9
#9 diamonddrella
#1 noble court
#7 gotta have her

race-4-----bc sprint
#2 cost of freedom-----close on zensational
#1 zensational
#3 fatal bullet
#5 gayego--hangs on for 4th

race-5-----bc juveniles
#13 lookin at lucky
#1 alfred noble------price horse
#5 d,funnybone
#11 radiohead

race-6-----bc mile
#3 cowboy cal---his spot
#1 court vision-----denies the euros
#7 fernely
#11 goldikovia---not as good as they think

race-7-----bc dirt mile
#1 mastercraftsman---far the best here
#4 bullsbay
#2 furthest land
#6 mambo meister

race-8-----bc turf
#6 precious passion---have high numbers on this one
#1 telling --- caught this guy closing at big balloons before
#5 dar re mi--- euro invader can steal this
#2 conduit----think he will be the beaten favorite here

race-9--------the bc classic
#8 einstein------leperoux gets him home again here at sa
#4 zenyetta---toss up--she wins or gets 2nd
#7 gio ponti----will be in the hunt
#3 summer bird---may be another beaten favorite

race-10
#9 battle of hastings
#3 meteore
#6 massone
#11 gtetsky

good luck and enjoy breeders days

**Mike_79** · 11-06-09, 04:05 AM

Final single selections in selected races for me are the following:

Friday:

Only like 1 horse on the day and it's in the Ladies Classic. #8 Rainbow View. Thought I'd like Cocoa Beach, but I think the cutback as well as her class makes Rainbow View awfully tough at a hint of a price.

Saturday:

Juvenile - #4 Noble's Promise

Mile - Both #8 Zacinto and #10 Justenuffhumor deserve a look at a price.

Dirt Mile - #2 Furthest Land

Classic - #8 Einstein

Best of luck to all. Should be a couple of great days of racing.

**joeyp1222** · 11-06-09, 08:58 AM

good luck mike

**floridagolfer** · 11-06-09, 10:50 AM

Friday

Marathon: Keying 3-4-5-6 in my superfectas
Juv. Fillies Turf: 7 (House of Grace)
Juv. Filles: 3 (Blind Luck), 7 (Devil May Care), 10 (Negligee)
Filly & Mare Turf: Oh my God, is this a tough one! I'll try 4 (Magical Fantasy)
Filly & Mare Sprint: 9 (Ventura)
Ladies' Classic: 7 (Music Note). Don't care for Careless Jewel's front-running style.

Good luck to all!

**madmaxx** · 11-06-09, 12:57 PM

Friday's Card:
Race 1: #4 Headache W/P. Exbox #4 Headache - #9 Joshua's Dream - #11 Mr. Hot Stuff
Race 2: #1 Cherryblossommiss - #14 North Rodeo
Race 3: #7 Sir Dave W/P. Exacta box #5 Father Time - #6 Mastery - #7 Sir Dave
Race 4: #10 Tapitsfly - #4 Rose Catherine
Race 5: #6 Connie and Michael
Race 6: #2 Forever Together (Most probable winner) exacta with ALL. Exacta box #2 with #4 Magical Fantasy
Race 7: #6 Evita Argentina (20/1). Exacta ALL with #9 Ventura (she loves running second)
Race 8: BEST BET. #2 Life is Sweet W/P. #4 Lethal Heat Place/Show. Exacta box 2-4-6 (Cocoa Beach)
Race 9: #10 Tuscan Evening - #5 Zardana - #1 Bahama Mama (30/1)

**tblues2005** · 11-06-09, 01:09 PM

Breeders Cup Day #1 for me is this.

Race 1: #4 Headache.
Race 2: no choice I think this race is really hard.
Race 3: #6 Mastery
Race 4: #8 Lillie Langtry
Race 5: #10 Negligee
Race 6: #2 Forever Together
Race 7: #9 Ventura (Best Bet)
Race 8: #7 Music Note

Good Luck to all today and I hope all of us some $$$

**gman2114** · 05-26-10, 09:15 AM

my word that rocked