caldera parlay

[JBEX]

try a weds and thursday parlay to possibly add to the bet ..he will be running friday at churchill in R5 @ 3:14 (#6 @ 8-1)

if I were betting 10 WP on caldera .. my weds bet would be 2WP and then roll forward to thursday's play if at least a place finish .. be a lot of fun alive into thursday even if it's only a place hit on weds

sizing is important..I feel about 20% of the friday bet is the right amount (2WP)..if there's any return from the parlay it's added to the 10WP bet on Friday


avg 2-1 odds on both factoring the place bet would be around +400 (double your 10WP) ..avg around 5-1 close to +2000 .. 90WP including original 10WP
..with the extra boost could even just bet place on him

if you're not playing caldera you could use it for breeders cup bankroll on saturday..not touting him here

[BOA12]

try a weds and thursday parlay to possibly add to the bet ..he will be running friday at churchill in R5 @ 3:14 (#6 @ 8-1)

if I were betting 10 WP on caldera .. my weds bet would be 2WP and then roll forward to thursday's play if at least a place finish .. be a lot of fun alive into thursday even if it's only a place hit on weds

sizing is important..I feel about 20% of the friday bet is the right amount (2WP)..if there's any return from the parlay it's added to the 10WP bet on Friday


avg 2-1 odds on both factoring the place bet would be around +400 (double your 10WP) ..avg around 5-1 close to +2000 .. 90WP including original 10WP
..with the extra boost could even just bet place on him

if you're not playing caldera you could use it for breeders cup bankroll on saturday..not touting him here

I will join you in this game.

[BOA12]

12:22 cst


Mvr R2 #4 Appalachian Spirit 3-1 2WP - 2nd X-$4.40


BOL2ALL

[JBEX]

12:22 cst


Mvr R2 #4 Appalachian Spirit 3-1 2WP


BOL2ALL

good luck

[JBEX]

cd

going 2 horses to win instead

R4 @ 2:27

#9 judy's flyer (6-1) 2W
#11 huixtla (8-1) 2W

[BOA12]

cd

going 2 horses to win instead

R4 @ 2:27

#9 judy's flyer (6-1) 2W
#11 huixtla (8-1) 2W

Avg odds lucky 7.

DH would be mind blowing.

[batt33]

Good Luck JBEX! It will be interesting to see what the final odds are on Caldera. I expect him to open as the favorite with all the"owners'" involved and the way he has been training. I expect he will go off way under 8-1.....

[JBEX]

Avg odds lucky 7.

DH would be mind blowing.

at ml odds would be around the return I was aiming for but of course not why I'm playing

[JBEX]

12:22 cst


Mvr R2 #4 Appalachian Spirit 3-1 2WP - 2nd X-$4.40


BOL2ALL

another shot tomorrow

[JBEX]

Good Luck JBEX! It will be interesting to see what the final odds are on Caldera. I expect him to open as the favorite with all the"owners'" involved and the way he has been training. I expect he will go off way under 8-1.....

thanks batt .. I think 3-1 to 4-1 range and ml might be high because of lukas not being a first out trainer


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[batt33]

thanks batt .. I think 3-1 to 4-1 range and ml might be high because of lukas not being a first out trainer
true. Interesting Video talking about Caldera.

https://youtu.be/ArUrjWQ5etM

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https://youtu.be/ArUrjWQ5etM

[BOA12]

another shot tomorrow

10-4.

[JBEX]

cd

going 2 horses to win instead

R4 @ 2:27

#9 judy's flyer (6-1) 2W
#11 huixtla (8-1) 2W

2nd #9 @ 10-1..done

[BOA12]

12:22 cst


Mvr R2 #4 Appalachian Spirit 3-1 2WP - 2nd X-$4.40


BOL2ALL

2:49 cst

Baq R7 #10 Tide of the Sea 8-1 2WP Out.

BOL2ALL

[JBEX]

2:49 cst

Baq R7 #10 Tide of the Sea 8-1 2WP

BOL2ALL

considering throwing a deuce (total) on something..not 4 ..wouldn't be right


bol

[JBEX]

considering throwing a deuce (total) on something..not 4 ..wouldn't be right


bol

go with me(t)a(l)thead

cd

R9 #7 (10-1) 1WP
@ 4:57


problem with that ..stifle



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[batt33]

go with me(t)a(l)thead

cd

R9 #7 (10-1) 1WP
@ 4:57


problem with that ..stifle


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talk about the ultimate hunch bet" Count Dracula" on Halloween! go figure lol!

[JBEX]

talk about the ultimate hunch bet" Count Dracula" on Halloween! go figure lol!

good point

[JBEX]

I'm surprised smartier ml wasn't a little lower .. had excuse after the start and really bred to go long

[batt33]

good point

unfortunately I didn't even have 2 on the nose....

[JBEX]

how about a caldera/chancer parlay

cd R5
msw
#6 caldera (8-1)
@ 3:14

dmr R8
bc juvenile
#10 chancer mcpatrick (3-1)
@ 7:45

no place on caldera and if he wins then win/place on CM

if CM stays around ml (3-1) then a win comes in at around +200 factoring place ..at least get your money back if he finishes 2nd

caldera

$2 about $36 @ 5-1
$2 about $54 @ 8-1




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[JBEX]

how about a caldera/chancer parlay

cd R5
msw
#6 caldera (8-1)
@ 3:14

dmr R8
bc juvenile
#10 chancer mcpatrick (3-1)
@ 7:45

no place on caldera and if he wins then win/place on CM

if CM stays around ml (3-1) then a win comes in at around +200 factoring place ..at least get your money back if he finishes 2nd

caldera

$2 about $36 @ 5-1
$2 about $54 @ 8-1




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another way to go would be place only on caldera and then straight win on CM..could see that returning $25-30 for $2

[batt33]

Well you knew that 1/9 was going to happen opening up!

[batt33]

another way to go would be place only on caldera and then straight win on CM..could see that returning $25-30 for $2

hmmm to much "MRH" money involved.... for those prices

[batt33]

No excuses for Caldera...... clean break..... just broke slow..... rushed up in between horses..... and got tired.

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Caldera Race Recap
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Caldera checked in sixth today on debut after an eventful and educational trip. Click for the chart and replay (available later this evening).
Last away, he showed good speed and determination to move up in between horses. He grabbed a rail spot not far off the pace heading into the turn, but had to tap on the brakes in traffic and lost a bit of momentum. Jockey Ramon Vazquez was able to guide him off the inside to find running room approaching the stretch, and he responded willingly to put himself back in contention. He looked like he might level off and start picking them off at the top of the lane, but he ran out of gas in the late stages while continuing to try to the wire.
While we all of course were dreaming of that blowout debut victory, we knew going in that Lukas trainees typically need at least one race before showing their best and that’s exactly how Caldera ran. He made multiple runs, showed some gears and handled the kickback and traffic trouble bravely. Caldera ran like a horse with some ability—which we still believe he has—who just wasn’t cut out to win going six furlongs on debut. He’ll gain a ton of fitness from that effort and plenty of mental maturity as well.
Both trainer D. Wayne Lukas and Vazquez were encouraged by the effort and had similar takes—they felt that was a great first experience, and believe Caldera will be better once he stretches out in distance.
A win today would’ve been great, but a six-furlong maiden special weight was not the goal or main objective when we acquired him. The Coach still seems to believe strongly that Caldera’s future is bright, and nothing Caldera did today would have us doubting the Hall of Famer’s assessment.
He seemed to come back in fine order immediately after the race. We’ll let him bounce out of this one and pick out a longer spot for next time.
We hope everyone enjoyed the excitement of today’s unveiling and remains optimistic about Caldera moving forward.