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  • Louisvillekid1
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    • 10-17-07
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    #246
    I agree gl
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    • Louisvillekid1
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      • 10-17-07
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      #247
      I think the #6 Qian (shipping 200 miles east from river , is up your alley)



      Saturday

      I think you might be interested in a few:

      R1: 5-2-3
      R4: honestly don’t think the #3 can loose galloping backwards
      R13: 5-2-7

      But the maidens on Travers day , feel chalky
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      • JBEX
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        • 01-02-12
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        #248
        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
        I think the #6 Qian (shipping 200 miles east from river , is up your alley)



        Saturday

        I think you might be interested in a few:

        R1: 5-2-3
        R4: honestly don’t think the #3 can loose galloping backwards
        R13: 5-2-7

        But the maidens on Travers day , feel chalky
        going to look at travers day tomorrow but realize the big outfits save their big guns (maidens) for travers under card which often times means underlays


        tough to beat those stonewall farm homebreds..they have kentucky pedigrees and are running mostly against much lesser company..my only other would be #3 pipes who actually cost a lot of money relative to his breeding..bred for turf and win early..but no value on either of these..you'll get a nice price with yours and that trainer can get them to win 1st out..but I looked at it earlier and decided to pass
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        • JBEX
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          #249
          Originally posted by JBEX
          going to look at travers day tomorrow but realize the big outfits save their big guns (maidens) for travers under card which often times means underlays


          tough to beat those stonewall farm homebreds..they have kentucky pedigrees and are running mostly against much lesser company..my only other would be #3 pipes who actually cost a lot of money relative to his breeding..bred for turf and win early..but no value on either of these..you'll get a nice price with yours and that trainer can get them to win 1st out..but I looked at it earlier and decided to pass
          barry k schwartz is stonewall farms
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          • Louisvillekid1
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            • 10-17-07
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            #250
            JBEX

            What is your drink?

            Scotch or whiskey?

            Neat or rocks?
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            • JBEX
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              #251
              outside of a beer here and there not a drinker..I know that's probably uncommon in here lol
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              • JBEX
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                #252
                added R11 post 245
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                • JBEX
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                  #253
                  del mar


                  R1 #6 don'teatmycookies (7-2)

                  useful debut at 1 level above showed speed and a fairly even fade.. could see better effort here vs lesser with that under her belt.. no problem with this up for 40k with her pedigree


                  R8 #9 my midnight affair (15-1)

                  like at a price with another drop and stretching out and surface switch.. trainer10-4-1-1 at the meet so far
                  Last edited by JBEX; 08-24-18, 08:34 PM.
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                  • JBEX
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                    #254
                    Originally posted by JBEX
                    saratoga friday

                    R4 #5 seven jewels (8-1)

                    "off a beat slow, greenly" was the chart callers comment.. I think the resulting running line is a great set up race to stretch out off.. the winners figure in that race (2yof sb msw) was above the par for a 2yof sb stakes so that was a fast race she exited..she went off 3-1 in that race and the winner went on to repeat in her next start

                    some trainer stats.. brad cox

                    356/29%.. 46-90 days off
                    85/34%.. first race on grass
                    91/29%..first try route

                    big brown/too much bling mare... above avg turf but below avg class ..cost 10k and dam was a minor stakes winner at a small circuit track ..this to me about neutral info but other stuff like very much


                    #4 tiztinabella (12-1) half unit

                    gleaves has won with a big price debuter on turf according to the trainer stats and I believe (but not sure) it was at this meet.. sire and dam sire above avg turf influences


                    R11 #5 good old boy (12-1)

                    really feel this one a hidden gem..4 career starts beginning as a 2yo

                    no blinkers broke slow debut...

                    adds them breaks from 11 post ,shows speed beyond the eighth pole on a very fast pace..

                    breaks slow from rail and looks like a rough trip

                    1 start as a 3yo in january (dirt)and did nothing

                    5.5f turf dropping to mcl seems like a good move..dam sire nashwan who's strictly euro turf..
                    gets irad whose 2/3 riding for maker last 60..sure at least one,maybe both at saratoga

                    #4... 2 mtp
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                    • JBEX
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                      #255
                      Originally posted by JBEX
                      #4... 2 mtp

                      didn't matter
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                      • JBEX
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                        #256
                        saratoga ... saturday

                        R1.. triple 256/1/7 and 256/7/1 smaller

                        trying to beat chad brown firster (#1) with the 3 most likely ones to do it.. #7 STRONG UNION (12-1) is a lukas first time starter and to say he's dreadful with them is an understatement . how about 1/97 going back 3 years.. but the horse he has cost $650k and was the most expensive yearling of 66 sold by union rags last year.. works are slow as hell at saratoga and most of them at churchill the same with a couple of 3f bullets from small tab the exception.. just hard to imagine they'd run just for the heck on the travers undercard and lukas has come in 2nd 9 times in 28 starts at the meet..going to try and get him underneath


                        R4 #7 social paranoia (9-2)

                        dont normally like to go with horses with good dirt form in maiden turf races because it's too obvious.. going to break that rule here due to the above average turf pedigree and what looks like a nice slightly off the pace running style...post a positive also


                        R11 #10 uncle larry (8-1)

                        pletcher msw to mcl 132/36% wow.. not an ultra expensive horse making first turf attempt. and the drop should really help.. think he'll be below 5-1


                        dmr

                        R4 #7 untouched elegance (6-1)
                        R5 #2 springtime dance (20-1)
                        R10 #4 paladar (5-1)
                        Last edited by JBEX; 08-25-18, 07:05 PM.
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                        • JBEX
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                          #257
                          added dmr 8
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                          • JBEX
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                            #258
                            added last saratoga
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                            • JBEX
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                              #259
                              added dmr 4 5
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                              • JBEX
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                                #260
                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                saratoga ... saturday

                                R1.. triple 256/1/7 and 256/7/1 smaller

                                trying to beat chad brown firster (#1) with the 3 most likely ones to do it.. #7 STRONG UNION (12-1) is a lukas first time starter and to say he's dreadful with them is an understatement . how about 1/97 going back 3 years.. but the horse he has cost $650k and was the most expensive yearling of 66 sold by union rags last year.. works are slow as hell at saratoga and most of them at churchill the same with a couple of 3f bullets from small tab the exception.. just hard to imagine they'd run just for the heck on the travers undercard and lukas has come in 2nd 9 times in 28 starts at the meet..going to try and get him underneath


                                R4 #7 social paranoia (9-2)

                                dont normally like to go with horses with good dirt form in maiden turf races because it's too obvious.. going to break that rule here due to the above average turf pedigree and what looks like a nice slightly off the pace running style...post a positive also


                                R11 #10 uncle larry (8-1)

                                pletcher msw to mcl 132/36% wow.. not an ultra expensive horse making first turf attempt. and the drop should really help.. think he'll be below 5-1


                                dmr

                                R4 #7 untouched elegance (6-1)
                                R5 #2 springtime dance (20-1)
                                no uncle larry didn't run in the travers ...R13
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                                • JBEX
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                                  #261
                                  added R10 dmr
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                                  • JBEX
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                                    #262
                                    saratoga

                                    R2 #10 choate bridge... first time starter (fts)

                                    home bred with a very nice pedigree top and bottom.. dam stakes placed, 4 winners from as many starters and 3 of those won on turf including 1 stakes winner . trainer avg and below avg stats in this category ..that's good imo as it helps with the price


                                    #2 trish the dish (8-1) half unit


                                    R5 #6 wheedle (12-1) (fts)

                                    not going to go over the whole thing but just say big time specs along the lines of what I look for
                                    in fts


                                    R10 #2 spa jazz (5-1)


                                    del mar


                                    R4

                                    there are 3 mega expensive horses (fts) in here and all of them besides being so pricey are also expensive relative to the specs.. don't remember ever seeing this situation

                                    #2 tale of the union (5-2) baffert/van dyke.. $925k
                                    #3 mucho gusto (8-1) baffert/talamo...$625k
                                    #5 harmon (6-1)gallagher/Smith.. $500k

                                    #2.. dam sire tale of the cat way above average fts
                                    #3.. going to give him a shot on top also
                                    #5.. gallagher horrible fts 1/42


                                    exacta 23/235 my stand will be no 3 horse box.. have a hunch at least one of these will be a big time runner


                                    R10 #8 fast cotton (6-1)
                                    Last edited by JBEX; 08-26-18, 04:14 PM.
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                                    • JBEX
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                                      #263
                                      added 5
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                                      • JBEX
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                                        #264
                                        Originally posted by JBEX
                                        saratoga

                                        R1 #10 choate bridge... first time starter (fts)

                                        home bred with a very nice pedigree top and bottom.. dam stakes placed, 4 winners from as many starters and 3 of those won on turf including 1 stakes winner . trainer avg and below avg stats in this category ..that's good imo as it helps with the price


                                        #2 trish the dish (8-1) half unit


                                        R5 #6 wheedle (12-1) (fts)

                                        not going to go over the whole thing but just say big time specs along the lines of what I look for
                                        in fts

                                        if these were older experienced horses the 9 (2nd)comes down for the start.. if the 9 broke straight ahead 10 probably wins @ 24-1(3rd)
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                                        • JBEX
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                                          #265
                                          added R10
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                                          • JBEX
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                                            #266
                                            added dmr 4
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                                            • JBEX
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                                              #267
                                              added dmr 10
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                                              • JBEX
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                                                #268
                                                saratoga monday

                                                R1 #2 brett's legacy (5-1)
                                                R2 #4 winter union (4-1)
                                                R3 #3 miss jackie g (15-1)

                                                nothing to do with capping.. 4 and the 5 this race are by the same sire and cost the same at auction.. that's like wearing a t shirt you haven't worn in 20 years and some one standing in front of you at the supermarket wearing the same one lol



                                                R9 #4 surge of pride (7-2) fts

                                                feel this a weak bunch of newbies.. homebred with a sire whose way above avg first turf and first out..dam unraced and this is first foal to race.. like the fact the dam sire is bernardini which usually
                                                means there's some quality in the female bloodline.. irad ortiz aboard
                                                Last edited by JBEX; 08-27-18, 02:10 PM.
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                                                • JBEX
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                                                  #269
                                                  added R9
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                                                  • JBEX
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                                                    #270
                                                    saratoga

                                                    R1 #1 ocean ready (8-1) steeplechase
                                                    R3 #6 anne dupree (3-1)
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                                                    • JBEX
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                                                      #271
                                                      saratoga

                                                      R2

                                                      #6 chantry flats (10-1) scratch
                                                      #8 carom (8-1) half unit scratch

                                                      both fit my ex/ped angle and both also ran halfway decent
                                                      last out on the turf..like that mine (6)was coming off a long layoff and was on the lead in a fast pace last out and held pretry well..should benefit from that effort..the others 2 tries were decent and jose ortiz rides..interesting that franco (6's jockey) rode the 8 in his only 2 starts and elects to ride the other..I think it's because he does a lot more business with that trainer than the lower volume trainer of the 8 ,ribauldo


                                                      R5 #3 fiveinthemorning (6-1)

                                                      5 career starts and 2 good sprint efforts..others without getting specific there are legit excuses..castellano jumps aboard and he's 2 for 3 with this trainer past 60 days



                                                      R7

                                                      #5 poppy's destiny (9-2) fts

                                                      pedex lol.. extremely expensive for pedigree.. dam was a stakes winner but it was at northland park..


                                                      #1 wild boar (12-1) fts half unit

                                                      pedex with a way above average first out sire.. above avg dam sire and dam was a winner.. if other too low this one a nice bet at a price



                                                      R10 #8 lem me tell ya (15-1)this is a decent field of maidens .. his lines are not bad at all and wouldn't be shocked at all if he took it scratch


                                                      del mar

                                                      R4 #1 irish spirit (12-1) scratch

                                                      a $310k curlin stretching out for his 2nd start..even with how expensive curlin is as a sire that's a lot of money..this horse was bought as a yearling in 2016 and his fee was lower than making the price more meaningful.. the stud fee they paid in 2015 was $25k and his current fee is $150k..obviously curlin's done well (I am bad at remembering specific horses).. trainer mccarthy good in many applicable categories today.. rail is excellent in routes at dmr


                                                      R8 #4 dislitleaglecanfly (5-1) also #6 grecian fort (20-1) half unit
                                                      Last edited by JBEX; 08-30-18, 06:39 PM.
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                                                      • JBEX
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                                                        #272
                                                        added R5
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                                                        • JBEX
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                                                          #273
                                                          added R8.. still gonna look at last 2
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                                                          • JBEX
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                                                            #274
                                                            Originally posted by JBEX
                                                            added R8.. still gonna look at last 2

                                                            it is R7... corrected sorry
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                                                            • Louisvillekid1
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                                                              #275
                                                              R7

                                                              i like the #3 & #7

                                                              Gl

                                                              pt thread not linked yet
                                                              Last edited by Louisvillekid1; 08-30-18, 01:46 PM.
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                                                              • JBEX
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                                                                #276
                                                                Originally posted by JBEX
                                                                saratoga

                                                                R2

                                                                #6 chantry flats (10-1) scratch
                                                                #8 carom (8-1) half unit scratch

                                                                both fit my ex/ped angle and both also ran halfway decent
                                                                last out on the turf..like that mine (6)was coming off a long layoff and was on the lead in a fast pace last out and held pretry well..should benefit from that effort..the others 2 tries were decent and jose ortiz rides..interesting that franco (6's jockey) rode the 8 in his only 2 starts and elects to ride the other..I think it's because he does a lot more business with that trainer than the lower volume trainer of the 8 ,ribauldo


                                                                R5 #3 fiveinthemorning (6-1)

                                                                5 career starts and 2 good sprint efforts..others without getting specific there are legit excuses..castellano jumps aboard and he's 2 for 3 with this trainer past 60 days



                                                                R7

                                                                #5 poppy's destiny (9-2) fts

                                                                pedex lol.. extremely expensive for pedigree.. dam was a stakes winner but it was at northland park..


                                                                #1 wild boar (12-1) fts half unit

                                                                pedex with a way above average first out sire.. above avg dam sire and dam was a winner.. if other too low this one a nice bet at a price

                                                                R7 poppy's destiny is #5 not #4.. corrected above.. always check my numbers if you play as I'm naturally careless
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                                                                • JBEX
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                                                                  #277
                                                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                  R7

                                                                  i like the #3 & #7

                                                                  Gl

                                                                  pt thread not linked yet

                                                                  can see both of those lkid.. very competitive race gl
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                                                                  • JBEX
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                                                                    #278
                                                                    finished saratoga
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                                                                    • Louisvillekid1
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                                                                      #279
                                                                      Nice man

                                                                      my #3 just missed ,

                                                                      nice call brother

                                                                      one miss step ,

                                                                      the #3 better going forward
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                                                                      • JBEX
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                                                                        #280
                                                                        Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                        Nice man

                                                                        my #3 just missed ,

                                                                        nice call brother

                                                                        one miss step ,

                                                                        the #3 better going forward
                                                                        thanks kid..really thought you got me at the wire and didn't see the photo but the slow mo ...man was that close..I got no skin in the game other than the time I put in so would've like to see you get it
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