Del Mar/Saratoga Contest Hart vs. Rider

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-08-16, 02:16 PM

Play 83: Spa Race 5: 4 Baronet. Tough field with a lot of evenly matched horses. Taking a shot with the 4 as the Jock/Trainer combo last 60 days hitting at +11.49. Has run a lot better since switched to the turf last 3 races with one of them good enough to win here. Going to throw out last sub par effort as I will play that to be a bounce off 3 weeks rest. Early speed with an inside draw so should be up close early. Now at 22/1 two minutes out.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-08-16, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Play 83: Spa Race 5: 4 Baronet. Tough field with a lot of evenly matched horses. Taking a shot with the 4 as the Jock/Trainer combo last 60 days hitting at +11.49. Has run a lot better since switched to the turf last 3 races with one of them good enough to win here. Going to throw out last sub par effort as I will play that to be a bounce off 3 weeks rest. Early speed with an inside draw so should be up close early. Now at 22/1 two minutes out.

Out of money

**harthebar** · 08-08-16, 03:13 PM

66 harbour king 7th spa

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-08-16, 03:30 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

66 harbour king 7th spa

Thought he might hold on. Out of the money

**JBEX** · 08-08-16, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

The numbers. Where did you get them from

384....64 plays x 6 (2 wps)
60...384-324 (your loss so far)

**harthebar** · 08-08-16, 04:40 PM

67 Bapu 10th spa

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-08-16, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

67 Bapu 10th spa

Out of Money

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-08-16, 04:46 PM

Hart: 67 Plays: $324.10

Rider: 83 Plays: $437.30

**JBEX** · 08-08-16, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Maybe Jbex could explain it. Not sure how to come up with the numbers especially if we are in positive territory.

when you divide the profit or loss by the total amount invested you get roi (return on investment).. If you added the overages in to the numbers you have you'd get your actual roi.. this to me is a valuable thing to know since you're going through all the record keeping for this contest... In the end we are all shooting for a positive roi or at least a small negative one playing this game.. it ain't easy as you guys well know

**harthebar** · 08-08-16, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by JBEX

384....64 plays x 6 (2 wps)
60...384-324 (your loss so far)

Ok. Jbex. It get the 64 x6 comes to 384. But what about the 60/384: where is the 60 coming from. It's probably right in front of me

**JBEX** · 08-08-16, 08:11 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

Ok. Jbex. It get the 64 x6 comes to 384. But what about the 60/384: where is the 60 coming from. It's probably right in front of me

60 is your loss ..

384 invested
324 returned

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-09-16, 05:10 AM

Going to Take Jbex's idea and keep a running total on overages. Hart 2 of your horses were capped, as well as 2 of mine.

Hart: 67 Plays: $324.10 Overage $5.00

Rider 83 Plays: $437.30 Overage $35.20

The overages do not count for the contest, but like Jbex stated it will provide a more accurate ROI at the end.

**JBEX** · 08-09-16, 07:00 AM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Going to Take Jbex's idea and keep a running total on overages. Hart 2 of your horses were capped, as well as 2 of mine.

Hart: 67 Plays: $324.10 Overage $5.00

Rider 83 Plays: $437.30 Overage $35.20

The overages do not count for the contest, but like Jbex stated it will provide a more accurate ROI at the end.

roi(%)... contest/actual
m (-) p (+)

hart .. m19.4/m18.2
ride .. m12.2/m5.2

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 06:44 AM

68 Risky Sour is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 10 at Saratoga Race Course.

69 Da Wildcat Girl is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 2 at Saratoga Race Course

70 Show Giant is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 3 at Saratoga Race Course.

71 Sea Pebble is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 3 at Saratoga Race Course.

72 Irish Goodbye on 8/10/2016 in Race 6 at Del Mar.

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 06:45 AM

Originally posted by JBEX

roi(%)... contest/actual
m (-) p (+)

hart .. m19.4/m18.2
ride .. m12.2/m5.2

Ok I get it now. Thanks

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 08:09 AM

Hart: 67 Plays: $324.10 Overage $5.00

Rider 83 Plays: $437.30 Overage $35.20

**JBEX** · 08-10-16, 08:48 AM

Originally posted by harthebar

Ok I get it now. Thanks

no problem..I'll do it every 3-4 days

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by harthebar

68 Risky Sour is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 10 at Saratoga Race Course.

69 Da Wildcat Girl is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 2 at Saratoga Race Course

70 Show Giant is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 3 at Saratoga Race Course.

71 Sea Pebble is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 3 at Saratoga Race Course.

72 Irish Goodbye on 8/10/2016 in Race 6 at Del Mar.

Scratched

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 10:47 AM

Hart if you make any more plays today start with #72 assuming no more scratched horses.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 12:20 PM

Play 84: Spa Race 1: 6 Miss Amalita

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 12:29 PM

^Play 84 is Race #2

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 12:37 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Play 84: Spa Race 1: 6 Miss Amalita

Out of money

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 12:58 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Hart if you make any more plays today start with #72 assuming no more scratched horses.

Ok.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 01:01 PM

Took Show Giant and Risky Sour in a HT Contest trying to win $650. Like the improved effort by Show Giant in the slop last race where he held on pretty well in a fast pace. Gets to cut back 1/2 panel here.

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 01:12 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

68 Risky Sour is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 10 at Saratoga Race Course.

69 Da Wildcat Girl is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 2 at Saratoga Race Course

70 Show Giant is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 3 at Saratoga Race Course.

71 Sea Pebble is scheduled to run on 8/10/2016 in Race 3 at Saratoga Race Course.

72 Irish Goodbye on 8/10/2016 in Race 6 at Del Mar.

Show Giant: Winner Pays $ 17.20
Sea Pebble: 2nd Pays $ 5.10 Now at $346.40

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 01:17 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Show Giant: Winner Pays $ 17.20
Sea Pebble: 2nd Pays $ 5.10 Now at $346.40

I should get exacta price too. ...right....
Ha ha. Sounds good

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 02:11 PM

72. I'mbetterthangood spa 5th

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 02:12 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Took Show Giant and Risky Sour in a HT Contest trying to win $650. Like the improved effort by Show Giant in the slop last race where he held on pretty well in a fast pace. Gets to cut back 1/2 panel here.

Got show giant ...doing good in contest

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 02:21 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

72. I'mbetterthangood spa 5th

Out of money

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 02:22 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

Got show giant ...doing good in contest

Yeah doing OK. In 6th right now out of 139. Hit last race. Will update later on.

**harthebar** · 08-10-16, 03:56 PM

73 storytotell 8th
Toga

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 04:00 PM

Play 85. Spa race 8: 4 West hills Giant

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by harthebar

73 storytotell 8th
Toga

Out of money

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Easy-Rider 66

Play 85. Spa race 8: 4 West hills Giant

Out of money

**Easy-Rider 66** · 08-10-16, 04:27 PM

Play 86: DM Race 2: 1 This Cat's Leavin