Blackhawks +150, biggest NHL edge in a while

inflames · 04-25-11, 03:43 PM

And canucks has the other 50% to win easily?

Inkwell77 · 04-25-11, 04:00 PM

Yeah, don't really see how an 8 seed who made the playoffs on the last day of the regular season and couldn't even clinch the playoff spot (Dallas had to lose for the Hawks to get in) versus the best team in hockey all year at +150 is some amazing value. Yes, the Hawks are Stanley Cup champs and have played well in the past 3 games, I just don't see the crazy value in this line.

Rich Boy · 04-25-11, 04:12 PM

Originally posted by Inkwell77

Yeah, don't really see how an 8 seed who made the playoffs on the last day of the regular season and couldn't even clinch the playoff spot (Dallas had to lose for the Hawks to get in) versus the best team in hockey all year at +150 is some amazing value. Yes, the Hawks are Stanley Cup champs and have played well in the past 3 games, I just don't see the crazy value in this line.

Thats the same logic thats getting me +150

Dharmonize · 04-25-11, 04:26 PM

GL man, you´re absolutely right, the chances are 50/50, + 150 is a textbook example of VALUE. It doesn´t matter who wins this game, but if some people don´t see value in this line, they should reconsider whether betting is the right hobby for them

. No hard feelings, guys... Let the better team win

Inkwell77 · 04-25-11, 04:37 PM

Of course there is value, but +150 being the biggest NHL edge in a while?!

You're acting like this is some sort of anomaly, the "books are afraid of this game"

Come on.... There were many +210 MLs during the year or -130 +1.5 PLs.

Pride · 04-25-11, 05:50 PM

you will lose your bet and there is no value in that.

canucks fukk the blackhawks in the ass tomorrow night

Rich Boy · 04-25-11, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Pride

you will lose your bet and there is no value in that.

canucks fukk the blackhawks in the ass tomorrow night

Just like they did in games 4, 5, and 6?

Canucks are not the same team in the first 3 games, Blackhawks are not the same team in the first 3 games, yet the line is the same.

Value on Chicago, no doubt about it.

Pride · 04-25-11, 08:24 PM

i will be sure to come in here once the canucks win and see how your value is doing

Rich Boy · 04-25-11, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Pride

i will be sure to come in here once the canucks win and see how your value is doing

Go ahead, guaranteed the Canucks choke. With Luongo in net, I feel really comfortable.

Yungmef · 04-25-11, 08:59 PM

gary bettman won't let a canadian team win the cup, he's got the refs on the payroll. if they don't go down this round, bet against the canucks in the next, trust yo

Pride · 04-25-11, 09:21 PM

this wont happen two games in a row

Pride · 04-25-11, 09:22 PM

double

Rich Boy · 04-25-11, 09:29 PM

It doesnt matter who refs the game, as long as Luongo is in net, the Blackhawks will have the advantange.

They will throw every crap shot on net and they will know that Luongo will blow it, I know it, they know it, the whole world knows it.

Luongo will blow it like he did in the Olympics with 30 seconds left, he will blow it against the Hawks like he has in the past 2 years, and he will blow it tomorrow night.

The only chance the Canucks have is to play Schneider, but no way that happens in a game 7.

bigsmitty · 04-25-11, 09:58 PM

I disagree RB, I think AV is simply putting out a guise to throw off CHI and will indeed start Schneider. That took huge guts (and the backing of GM Gillis) to bench Lou in game six so I'm sure he has the green light to do what's best for the club game seven. Howver, Scheider showed that he is an excellent goalie but not yet comfortable with this type of game. At this point in time VAN's skill on paper is diminished and CHI's sense of confidence makes this a reasonable toss up. Good luck.

Rich Boy · 04-25-11, 10:04 PM

Its already been confirmed that Luongo is starting, unless coach AV is lying to everyone again. Possible, but I dont see how the Canucks bench their 10 million dollar goalie in game 7.

What happens if they win, "Sorry about benching you Luongo in of the biggest games in Canucks history, go back out their and play round 2 for us". Unless they bench him for the rest of the year, which would be really interesting.

bigsmitty · 04-26-11, 12:07 AM

Originally posted by Rich Boy

Its already been confirmed that Luongo is starting, unless coach AV is lying to everyone again. Possible, but I dont see how the Canucks bench their 10 million dollar goalie in game 7.

What happens if they win, "Sorry about benching you Luongo in of the biggest games in Canucks history, go back out their and play round 2 for us". Unless they bench him for the rest of the year, which would be really interesting.

I was debating this over the weekend with some friends. I think AV would start Luongo to have an out for his own job. It's justifiable to start Lou in that he's been your goalie for the year and paid as such-if the guy can't do the job in this game then it's on him and he's the sacrificial goat (in some terms). But-is it the correct hockey call? I would say no, Schneider at this time at least gives the team a chance (as was evident game six). If you start CS and he loses (or even wins) then AV is in the hot water as Roberto could be ruined as a Canuck or people will always wonder if he could have done the job. At any rate I would lie as the coach and state Lou as my starter and play CS, and pull a Bobby Knight at my press conference. Cheers

cutesauce · 04-26-11, 12:55 AM

i dont see how they can start sneider, its got to be luongo.
Also i dont think vancouver can keep up with chicagos intensity.
chi takes this in a close one.

Whippit · 04-26-11, 01:19 AM

time for chicago to finally roll over & die

crawford better bring backup

jcubs55 · 04-26-11, 01:50 AM

I am not betting this game but as a Chicago fan I can't wait for this game

Rich Boy · 04-26-11, 02:11 AM

Pretty ridiculous shit we are witnessing here, all I know is that Luongo will implode if he lets in an early goal or a soft goal. If Luongo lets in 1 bad goal I would pull him right then. We all know that Luongo IS capable of coming up with a big game/save. But all it takes is 1 softy and he will begin to doubt himself and the whole team will doubt him.

That is why I see value in Chi +150, even if the Canucks play a dominant game as a team, Luongo can still choke and cost them the game, no problem.

So the Canucks have to outplay the Blackhawks (75-80% chance) and hope that Luongo doesnt blow it (50% chance), pretty tough if you ask me.

CanuckG · 04-26-11, 02:13 AM

If the Canucks play anything like they did in Game 6 they should win but it's hard to rely on Luongo with his play of late.

avssakic · 04-26-11, 02:26 AM

is the canucks flop on again? 3 times in a row for the hawks?

nyplayer33 · 04-26-11, 04:21 AM

I don't see the value of taking an 8th seed vs a number one seed...esp when the one seed is home. If you were getting 2 to 1 perhaps....even if the goalie for Vanc is hurt or out...ive seen enough cases where a backup steps up for the big game

thespeculator · 04-26-11, 05:15 AM

i have to go with vancouver , i know it doesn't sound logical, but last game was a total toss up , freakin penalty shot saved chicago, no tonight

Z-Aces · 04-26-11, 05:59 AM

Chicago wins 5-3. Luango is not there mentally. Chicago plays well on the road. And Luango is beat up physically. Its very hard to come back from being down 3 games to win the series. But the Hawks have momentum right now and have OWNED Luango and Vancouver for the past years. My money is on Chicago. I still say they win by two goals.

Pride · 04-27-11, 01:31 AM

tons of "value" on this one.

you were three games too late.

CanuckG · 04-27-11, 01:32 AM

Originally posted by Z-Aces

Chicago wins 5-3. Luango is not there mentally. Chicago plays well on the road. And Luango is beat up physically. Its very hard to come back from being down 3 games to win the series. But the Hawks have momentum right now and have OWNED Luango and Vancouver for the past years. My money is on Chicago. I still say they win by two goals.

Guy can't even spell Luongo...hope you had no money on this game son.

Cicima6709 · 04-27-11, 01:39 AM

There was tons of value here...

Value bets dont always win, but if you play them enough, you are bound to be up in the end. Idk why the original poster made it sound like a lock, it was far from that...but i really believe it was a 50/50 game. +150 on 50/50 games...do the math...

And people who got CHI ML at lilke +340 in the 2nd intermission or +260 in the first could have easily hedged and gauranteed profit in OT.

Rich Boy · 04-27-11, 01:45 AM

Well Chi was around +110 going into OT and I was sitting pretty with my +150,

This was a coin flip game, all the way down to the wire.

Notice how Luongo managed to blow the lead late in the game AGAIN, this guy is great at doing that.

Inkwell77 · 04-27-11, 02:56 PM

lol, Lu did not blow the lead. The horrible execution on the powerplay blew the lead, that did show this team has a tremendous amount of trouble closing out games, but it may have been the Chicago/Van curse. Giving up that shorthanded goal in that situation was terrible coaching and execution.

Tough to bet on a team to win the cup or even win the next series that does that even though they have so much talent and skill.