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  • Chance Harper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-20-07
    • 788

    #1
    More misery for the Montreal Canadiens
    More misery for the Montreal Canadiens

    Could things get any worse for the Canadiens, their backers and their fans? Montreal will now have to make a go at it without Mathieu Schneider for the rest of the season and Andrei Markov for a few weeks after the defensive duo suffered injuries last Saturday in a win over the Maple Leafs. The Habs have two more regular season games to go and hold a slim lead over the Rangers in the 7-slot of the Eastern Conference.

    Supporters of the Montreal Canadiens have seen this movie before.

    A bad season got worse for the Canadiens on Monday when they lost their top two defensemen: Mathieu Schneider (shoulder) for the rest of the season and Andrei Markov (left knee) for the next three weeks. Markov was tied with Alexei Kovalev for the team lead with 64 points; Schneider has 16 points in 21 games – 13 points on the power play – since coming over from Atlanta in a trade.

    Even premium offensive defensemen like Markov and Schneider tend to get overlooked by the betting public, but the impact of their absence was obvious in Tuesday’s 3-1 loss to the New York Rangers (-180) at Madison Square Garden. Montreal’s decimated blueline (Francis Bouillon is still out with a groin injury) allowed 44 shots and the power play went 0-for-3 with Roman Hamrlik and Patrice Brisebois manning the point. They were also 0-for-3 the night before in a 3-2 loss to the visiting Ottawa Senators (+143) during their first game without Markov and Schneider.

    There is a glimmer of hope for Habs fans. Schneider traveled with the team to New York, fueling speculation that he might not require the season-ending surgery reported in Monday’s papers. And with just two games left to go before the postseason, Montreal remained a point ahead of the Rangers for seventh place in the East and three points up on the No. 9 Florida Panthers. But the Habs have a pair of tough matchups to close out the campaign: Thursday at first-place Boston, then Saturday at home against the Penguins. There will be no breathing easy in La Belle Province this week.

    At press time, Montreal was 25-1 on the Stanley Cup futures market, the longest betting odds of the current Top 8 in the East. New York was 22-1.

    Nashville at Detroit

    The 51-19-9 Red Wings (28-51 ATS, minus-12.71 units) remain the Cup favorites at 3-1 despite sitting in second place in the Western Conference, four points behind San Jose at 7-2 odds. Each team has three games left to play, so Detroit still has a shot at the top seed. Times are more desperate in Nashville, where the 39-33-8 Predators (41-39 ATS, minus-3.5 units) are in ninth place, two points behind Anaheim and St. Louis with two games to go for all involved.

    The Preds are trying to scrape their way into the postseason without two of their major contributors: center David Legwand (cheekbone) and winger Martin Erat (leg). They have 37 goals between the two of them on a team that sits No. 24 in the league with 198 goals, or 2.51 per game. Detroit, in stark contrast, is first in scoring at 3.59 goals per game. The Red Wings have four players with at least 30 goals apiece, led by Marian Hossa’s 40. Nashville’s top scorer is Jason Arnott with 29.

    Picking Detroit may look like a no-brainer, but it would have cost you 3.15 units last week. The Predators skated into Joe Louis Arena on Mar. 29 and left with a 4-3 victory, as Chris Osgood (.887 save percentage) continued his lurch to the playoffs. Pekka Rinne (.921 SV%) got the win for Nashville; he’s started the last 12 games in a row at 6-3-3 to improve to 28-13-4 in his rookie campaign. The difference between the two goalies and their teams can be seen against the total. The over is 45-34 for Detroit and 34-46 for Nashville.

    Rinne and the Preds (+135 at home) also beat the Wings 8-0 back on Feb. 28 with Ty Conklin (.910 SV%) between the pipes for Detroit. They split a pair of games earlier in the year. Detroit is expected to have key defenseman Brian Rafalski (57 points in 75 games) back in the lineup after missing a week with a groin injury. Fellow blueliner Andreas Lilja is still out due to a concussion.
  • DennisGreen
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-08
    • 18369

    #2
    MTL looked terrible tonight and were outplayed badly by the Pens. First round exit vs the Bruins in 5 coming.
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    • Slim
      SBR MVP
      • 11-13-08
      • 4722

      #3
      They shouldn't have fired their coach.
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      • Tsoprano
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 04-14-08
        • 26374

        #4
        Where's Nicky @?
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        • Axis
          SBR MVP
          • 01-08-09
          • 1255

          #5
          ^^
          He realized that his franchise if falling down the toilet. The best team since '78 or w/e he claims just finished 8th in the east. Doesn't say much good about the past 30 years
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          • Hells Kitchen
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-11-09
            • 383

            #6
            Frogs have no chance in this series now.
            Hate the B`s too.

            By the by who do my Sabres play in the first round
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            • Nicky Santoro
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 04-08-08
              • 16103

              #7
              now it's time for all you boys to see why this team is the best habs team since 77.. watch now as they face the bruins and you will see why i was right. they've been cruising all along.. now they start. fasten your seatbelts..
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              • DennisGreen
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 11-27-08
                • 18369

                #8
                I admire your loyalty Nicky but face it the Habs are out in round 1 without a doubt. They have no edge on Boston in any aspect. Price will have to play like a hero and stop 45 shots a night.
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                • yisman
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-01-08
                  • 75682

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                  now it's time for all you boys to see why this team is the best habs team since 77.. watch now as they face the bruins and you will see why i was right. they've been cruising all along.. now they start. fasten your seatbelts..


                  Nicky, you already told us a few times that the Canadiens would finish "nowhere near" the 8th seed.



                  They aren't making the Eastern Conference Finals and a first round exit is likely.
                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                  [/quote]

                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                  • Nicky Santoro
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-08-08
                    • 16103

                    #10
                    habs will beat BOS in the 1st round.. remember where you heard this.. i guarantee you they beat them.. watch and see..

                    This is where you start to see the real habs shine..

                    best habs team since 1976-77 season.
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                    • betplom
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 09-20-06
                      • 13444

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                      habs will beat BOS in the 1st round.. remember where you heard this.. i guarantee you they beat them.. watch and see..

                      This is where you start to see the real habs shine..

                      best habs team since 1976-77 season.
                      Remember where you heard this:
                      I guarantee that the Bruins will beat Montreal in the 1st round.

                      The habs will be sodomized by the Bruins, the "B's" are big tough mean team that will hurt the habs every chance they get, paybacks are a bitch Nicky, Boston gets its revenge this year in a big way.

                      Big bad Boston Bruins vs the Europansy habs.
                      Nicky, I'm going to enjoy watching the habs get hurt.

                      Go Boston.
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                      • tullamore
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-17-07
                        • 3586

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                        habs will beat BOS in the 1st round.. remember where you heard this.. i guarantee you they beat them.. watch and see..

                        This is where you start to see the real habs shine..

                        best habs team since 1976-77 season.
                        This Boston team is going to push Montreal around. Boston will win this series because they will throw their weight around on the forecheck. Nicky the french canadiens and russians dont like to be pushed around, they are good with the cheap shots, but they will never stand up man to man. Boston wins in 6, and the Boston fans will have a parade in Montreal, you are welcome to attend Nicky, I know you have your cameras ready.
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                        • betplom
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-20-06
                          • 13444

                          #13
                          I agree Tully, Boston will be too physical for the petite little habitants and their Europussy & French Canadien pansy players.

                          Habs will likely answer Bostons legit toughness with cheap shots and retaliation from being frustrated.

                          Habs are going to get knocked around in a big way, life is good.
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                          • Nicky Santoro
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-08-08
                            • 16103

                            #14
                            i will laugh at you guys when habs beat BOS.. mtl has been waiting for this all year. they wanted bos. if you think bos is not nervous, you are dreaming.. we've owned bos now for 32 yrs, and the real habs will come and play now.. watch and see..

                            my batteries are charging for my camera still.. they should be fully charged just in time for the parade on ste catherines street.

                            i cant wait..
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                            • pico
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 04-05-07
                              • 27321

                              #15
                              bruins would probably sweep the habs.
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                              • betplom
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-20-06
                                • 13444

                                #16
                                Originally posted by pico
                                bruins would probably sweep the habs.
                                The 4th game is hardest to win, I think MTL wins one game, probably when they are down 3-0 in the series.

                                Boston WILL lay a beating on the petite habs, this is the only possible outcome.

                                Should Price let in a bad goal he'll likely implode and the habs won't put up much of a fight.
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                                • tullamore
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-17-07
                                  • 3586

                                  #17
                                  This series is a physical mismatch, the Habs will get punched in the face and turtle up.
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                                  • betplom
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-20-06
                                    • 13444

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by tullamore
                                    This series is a physical mismatch, the Habs will get punched in the face and turtle up.
                                    Isn't that what the Frenchies and Europussies do best?
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                                    • yisman
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 09-01-08
                                      • 75682

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                      habs will beat BOS in the 1st round.. remember where you heard this.. i guarantee you they beat them.. watch and see..

                                      This is where you start to see the real habs shine..

                                      best habs team since 1976-77 season.
                                      Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                      i will laugh at you guys when habs beat BOS.. mtl has been waiting for this all year. they wanted bos. if you think bos is not nervous, you are dreaming.. we've owned bos now for 32 yrs, and the real habs will come and play now.. watch and see..

                                      my batteries are charging for my camera still.. they should be fully charged just in time for the parade on ste catherines street.

                                      i cant wait..

                                      Nicky, since you don't want to bet money, how about a friendly forum wager?

                                      The real habs will come and play now? You mean they've been waiting all season to start playing for real?
                                      [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                      [/quote]

                                      [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                      • Nicky Santoro
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-08-08
                                        • 16103

                                        #20
                                        no problem, but dont waste your time. habs are winning the series. playoffs is a totally diff season,and you hockey guys know this too..

                                        what bet you want to make?
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                                        • tullamore
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 07-17-07
                                          • 3586

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by betplom
                                          Isn't that what the Frenchies and Europussies do best?
                                          And plan parades for an 8th seed.
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                                          • betplom
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-20-06
                                            • 13444

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                            no problem, but dont waste your time. habs are winning the series. playoffs is a totally diff season,and you hockey guys know this too..

                                            what bet you want to make?
                                            You make it sound like Boston won't be as good as they were in the regular season, typical mtl arrogance.

                                            Nicky, Boston is tenacious and never lets off the throttle, Montreal can't possibly keep up with Boston physically.

                                            Now if this were an all star game and their was no hitting, I'd like the habs a little bit, prepare for a beatdown.
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                                            • The General
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 08-10-05
                                              • 13279

                                              #23
                                              A trio or days ago, Boston just kicked the chit outta the Canadians I seen in game fighting.
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                                              • betplom
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-20-06
                                                • 13444

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The General
                                                A trio or days ago, Boston just kicked the chit outta the Canadians I seen in game fighting.
                                                That was just the warmup, now that the road to the Cup has started Boston won't be so gentle on the habs.

                                                Look for many more beatdowns from Boston on les petite habs.
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                                                • yisman
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 09-01-08
                                                  • 75682

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                  no problem, but dont waste your time. habs are winning the series. playoffs is a totally diff season,and you hockey guys know this too..

                                                  what bet you want to make?
                                                  Well, you made it clear you don't want to bet money. I don't care what you bet, but I want to bet something.

                                                  The rights to your signature?

                                                  If Montreal makes the Eastern Conference Finals, you have the rights to my signature for a month. If they do not, I get the rights to your signature for 10 days. Sound fair?
                                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                  [/quote]

                                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-08-08
                                                    • 16103

                                                    #26
                                                    are you crazy? they are about +1200 for that. i am going to make you a bet that is +1200 for me and it's even money.

                                                    this is fair..

                                                    1 month of sig for me.. 12 months for you. it works exactly fair.. 12x more than me you should get, since its 12-1.. fair..
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                                                    • betplom
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 09-20-06
                                                      • 13444

                                                      #27
                                                      You think Boston will open at -1500 to win the series?
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                                                      • Nicky Santoro
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 04-08-08
                                                        • 16103

                                                        #28
                                                        NO/ what makes you say that?
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                                                        • betplom
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-20-06
                                                          • 13444

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                          NO/ what makes you say that?
                                                          My mistake, I read it wrong, I thought you were talking about the series, not the Conference.

                                                          Nevermind.

                                                          No lines are posted yet, what do you think the series price will be for Bos/Mtl ?
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                                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-08-08
                                                            • 16103

                                                            #30
                                                            i see BOS as only about a -380 favorite for the series.
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                                                            • yisman
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 09-01-08
                                                              • 75682

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                              are you crazy? they are about +1200 for that. i am going to make you a bet that is +1200 for me and it's even money.

                                                              this is fair..

                                                              1 month of sig for me.. 12 months for you. it works exactly fair.. 12x more than me you should get, since its 12-1.. fair..
                                                              Nicky you guaranteed they'd win the Cup and you're insisting on 12/1 odds just to get to the Eastern Conference Finals?

                                                              We feel that our book would go out of business if we're forced to offer 12/1 odds for such things.

                                                              We cannot make that bet, but we are prepared to offer you +300 on Montreal advancing past Boston. One series. Since the bettor states that this is the best Canadiens team in over 30 years, it should be an easy bet for him to make at +300.

                                                              10 days vs. a month. Same bet offer, but this way they only have to win one series for you to cash in.

                                                              You keep saying that why should you take this bet if you can get better odds at a sportsbook. Well, The Greek is only offering +280 for a bet on Montreal over Boston. Additionally, since you cannot wager on my signature at The Greek, there is an incentive for you.
                                                              [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                              [/quote]

                                                              [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                              • Marigold HD
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 09-03-07
                                                                • 5053

                                                                #32
                                                                I acually put $400 on the Habs to win the Stanley cup at 36-1

                                                                also $300 on pittsburgh at 16-1
                                                                and $200 on calgary and $100 on anahiem which are both at 30.5-1
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                                                                • yisman
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 09-01-08
                                                                  • 75682

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Calgary is a much better bet than Anaheim. Lousy odds for Anaheim there.

                                                                  $400 on the Habs is lighting money on fire.

                                                                  Pittsburgh is worth it.
                                                                  [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                  [/quote]

                                                                  [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                  • yisman
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 09-01-08
                                                                    • 75682

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Nicky, do you accept the bet proposal?
                                                                    [quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
                                                                    [/quote]

                                                                    [quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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                                                                    • Nicky Santoro
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-08-08
                                                                      • 16103

                                                                      #35
                                                                      what is proposal again?? 10 days to 30 days of signature of winners choice?? if yes, that is fair.. cause bos is -300 which means you should pay 3x more, which is this here..

                                                                      agree?
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