NE division odds

Vegas39 · 01-14-13, 07:02 PM

Do like Buffalos chances

Redman3693 · 01-14-13, 08:30 PM

Boston should win the division (IMO) but with no sign of Thomas, this could easily change.

I don't think Montreal or Toronto have a chance. Way too many changes & inconsistencies for these two, but with a short season, anything is possible.

That leaves Buffalo & Ottawa. Being a Sens fan, I am biased and have to favor Ottawa. Lots of offensive talent, 2nd year coach that grew up in the Detroit system, and what I believe to be quality goaltending. My biggest fear is the 'D'... They could really funk thing up - but I'm hoping that Murray will plug that hole before taking on too much water.

ColdBeerHere · 01-14-13, 11:38 PM

I don't know bro...Sabres fan here too but what if Grigorenko doesn't make the team....And say what if Ennis or Hodgson (who really still has to prove himself to be a 1 or 2C) gets hurt then we are screwed at the center position....Then we have Hecht, Ellis, and McCormick ? Perhaps Ott will play C as well....

I don't know guess I am more pessimistic that most......They may finish high in the standings...they may not even make the playoffs......

Just don't think I would bet them to win the divison at +350.....Would have to be +1000 or higher for me.

lunchbawks · 01-15-13, 04:09 AM

bet the field

a4u2fear · 01-15-13, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by ColdBeerHere

I don't know bro...Sabres fan here too but what if Grigorenko doesn't make the team....And say what if Ennis or Hodgson (who really still has to prove himself to be a 1 or 2C) gets hurt then we are screwed at the center position....Then we have Hecht, Ellis, and McCormick ? Perhaps Ott will play C as well....

I don't know guess I am more pessimistic that most......They may finish high in the standings...they may not even make the playoffs......

Just don't think I would bet them to win the divison at +350.....Would have to be +1000 or higher for me.

I know I know. But they are much deeper than the team last year who made a run towards 8 at the end. Even if someone goes down thy have Hecht, Ott, Leino, Hodgson, Ennis, Grigorenko all who have played center before.

With Ehrhoff and Myers both in lineup th Sabres were 30-17-x. Impressive, just need to keep those guys healthy

bruins35 · 01-15-13, 12:45 PM

check tukka rasks save percentage for every game he has played in the nhl and compare it to any goalie ever who played that many games and get back to me with what you find.I think you might have to edit your thread.

DennisGreen · 01-15-13, 01:46 PM

Rask is solid. I still think the B's take the division, but it is a short season so you never know. Buffalo or Ottawa could pull it off.

SCS · 01-15-13, 01:50 PM

Don't think there's much value to it. Boston is clearly a step or two above all four other teams. Buffalo might have a shot in a 48-game season, but I wouldn't bet on it.

vaas187 · 01-15-13, 04:11 PM

Ottawa will take it and I'm a leafs fan. Boston in second if they don't win. Sabers have no top end talent outside of miller.

a4u2fear · 01-15-13, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by bruins35

check tukka rasks save percentage for every game he has played in the nhl and compare it to any goalie ever who played that many games and get back to me with what you find.I think you might have to edit your thread.

Did you use this same psychology when betting Manning vs Flacco this past weekend? No.

If you don't understand odds then you're not a good gambler. In a shortened season with many unknowns, betting the Bruins at even money is silly. They very well may take the division, but at +350 for Buffalo who missed the playoffs by 1-2 games and were 30-17 with their top 2 defenseman healthy; and +600 for Ottawa, a playoff team who fell one game short of the second round, you wouldn't be making a good move to ignore these two bets.

Gambling is making smart decisions on bets where you think you have at least a slight edge. At even money the Bruins are hardly that.

k13 · 01-16-13, 02:55 PM

pinnacle has Ottawa +700 and Buffalo +450

Leafs are actually lower than Ottawa....

a4u2fear · 01-16-13, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by k13

pinnacle has Ottawa +700 and Buffalo +450

Leafs are actually lower than Ottawa....

Thanks but too bad I'm only on DSI/5Dimes/Bovada.

CupWanted · 01-16-13, 08:03 PM

I will preface this by saying I'm a Sabres fan.
Northeast

The pick: Boston Bruins -115

Their travel schedule is great. Second fewest miles in the division and the fewest back to back games.

They have the same coach, same system, and return almost all of their roster. They have depth amongst their forward lines and their defensive pairings. The condensed season will lead to increased injuries so depth will be key.

They dominate the Northeast division. In the last 3 years the Bruins are 49-17-6 (19-4-1 last year) against the northeast division. That's a 68% win percentage. In a regular 82 game schedule division games make up 29% of the schedule. In this 48 game schedule divisional games make up 37.5% of the schedule.

Their biggest question mark over the season will be whether Tukka Rask can replace Tim Thomas. Rask has gotten a good ammount of work over the last 3 years having started 22, 27, and 39 games. In those three years he posted a combined save percantage of .926%. Tim Thomas posted a save percentage of .926% over the same 3 year period. One of those seasons was a Vezina winning campaign. Over the same 3 year period Ryan Miller posted a .921 save percentage. One of those seasons was also a Vezina winning campaign. Tukka can play. Just ask Leafs fans if they'd like him back. Finally, Tukka signed a 1 year contract extension this offseason. I'm guessing his agent knows he can play and is going to get paid well more that the 3 mil he'll make this year come July 1.

The fear factor: Age. This is an older roster that could fall apart under the stress of a condensed season.

PuckIt · 01-16-13, 08:22 PM

Projections:

Northeast	WIN	LOSS	WIN	LOSS	WIN DIV	PLAYOFF
Buffalo Sabres	0	0	25.6	18.6	32.2%	68.5%
Boston Bruins	0	0	25.5	18.3	35.4%	70.9%
Toronto Maple Leafs	0	0	24.2	19.8	17.1%	51.7%
Ottawa Senators	0	0	23.1	20.6	12.2%	41.6%
Montreal Canadiens	0	0	20.0	22.8	3.1%	17.3%

Lots of value on the Sabres for sure at +400!

a4u2fear · 01-17-13, 04:46 PM

Originally posted by PuckIt

Projections:

Northeast	WIN	LOSS	WIN	LOSS	WIN DIV	PLAYOFF
Buffalo Sabres	0	0	25.6	18.6	32.2%	68.5%
Boston Bruins	0	0	25.5	18.3	35.4%	70.9%
Toronto Maple Leafs	0	0	24.2	19.8	17.1%	51.7%
Ottawa Senators	0	0	23.1	20.6	12.2%	41.6%
Montreal Canadiens	0	0	20.0	22.8	3.1%	17.3%

Lots of value on the Sabres for sure at +400!

Yea,

Bovada has Bruins +100, Sabres +350 for the division
Bovada also has Bruins o/u 57.5, Sabres o/u 54.5. You tell me what the smart pick is here.

Are 3 pts in this 48 game season and say 5.5 (stretched to 82 games) worth the extra juice?

face · 01-17-13, 06:25 PM

bet them both and push if bruins win and make +250 if sabres win

k13 · 01-24-13, 02:54 PM

5dimes has Ottawa +850 to win division now.