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  • ngates815
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 12-01-09
    • 13845

    #71
    Originally posted by iceminers26
    Yes, I'm actually going to get all my lines from SBR Odds using the odds from 5dimes, that way you can verify lines with the line history and the time of posts to ensure the lines are entered correctly, its all documented; this is why we are using 5dimes (from SBR Odds) as opposed to using the SBR Book as previously agreed upon.

    Comprehension is a motherfukka
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    • thebayareabeast
      SBR MVP
      • 04-22-10
      • 1475

      #72
      I have been logging in and using the lines from 5dimes website, and anyways there are even discrepencies between what he posted and what is up there now

      and where did he go
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      • Goat Milk
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 03-24-10
        • 25850

        #73
        Ice has work bro he can't post til he gets home.....
        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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        • thebayareabeast
          SBR MVP
          • 04-22-10
          • 1475

          #74
          he just posted he said he cant post until after work, so work should be over
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          • ngates815
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 12-01-09
            • 13845

            #75
            Originally posted by thebayareabeast

            IN ANY CASE IM NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND BE A BABYSITTER THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE THREAD, I MIGHT NOT ALWAYS BE AROUND

            EVEN IF IT WAS HONEST FUK THAT SHIT ALL HONEST MISTAKES IN HIS FAVOR THROUGHOUT THE CONTEST

            I AM BEYOND DISGUSTED RIGHT NOW I DONT TAKE BEING CHEATED LIGHTLY

            Babysit thru a 2 page thread...took me 2 minutes to find it....first page...post 5ish. Really tough...I'm not trying to start shit, but it's pretty obvious he just took them straight off of SBRodds/5Dimes section, like he stated he was doing. It's obvious you're a joker bayarea and this is the only personal attack I will throw your way, since you went off on a tangent complaining, when he specified where he was getting his odds from the get go. You just know you'll be taken out in any type of competition, and trying to back out after day 1.
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            • thebayareabeast
              SBR MVP
              • 04-22-10
              • 1475

              #76
              Originally posted by ngates815
              Babysit thru a 2 page thread...took me 2 minutes to find it....first page...post 5ish. Really tough...I'm not trying to start shit, but it's pretty obvious he just took them straight off of SBRodds/5Dimes section, like he stated he was doing. It's obvious you're a joker bayarea and this is the only personal attack I will throw your way, since you went off on a tangent complaining, when he specified where he was getting his odds from the get go. You just know you'll be taken out in any type of competition, and trying to back out after day 1.
              Im ahead you fukkin moron

              Go crawl back into your hole

              Theres even some discrepencies between what he posted and whats up there now so you still gonna blindly lick his dick?
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              • thebayareabeast
                SBR MVP
                • 04-22-10
                • 1475

                #77
                He said last night that he was logging into the site and getting the lines off the website...

                so basically he is giving himself a choice of the better of the two at his discretion
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                • 2daBank
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 01-26-09
                  • 88966

                  #78
                  every one of the lines ice posted matches up EXACTLY with what sbr odds has for 5 dimes at the time of the play....stop trying to go out of you rway to discredit solid, respected, posters......
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                  • thebayareabeast
                    SBR MVP
                    • 04-22-10
                    • 1475

                    #79
                    Ok I'll tell you what... we will just have to have a little talk about this later. In the meantime these allegations of me trying to back out are ludicrous and nothing more.

                    Very well.

                    We can continue the contest and he can have his odds but we need to set some things straight here.
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                    • thebayareabeast
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-22-10
                      • 1475

                      #80
                      Originally posted by 2daBank
                      every one of the lines ice posted matches up EXACTLY with what sbr odds has for 5 dimes at the time of the play....stop trying to go out of you rway to discredit solid, respected, posters......
                      How can you see what it was "at the time of the post"

                      A few are different now

                      Also last night he said he was using the site...

                      Every bet I have posted I have actually logged into 5dimes and posted those lines so who knows how much I have solomoned myself out of by not using "SBR ODDS"
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                      • ngates815
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 12-01-09
                        • 13845

                        #81
                        Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                        Im ahead you fukkin moron

                        Go crawl back into your hole

                        Theres even some discrepencies between what he posted and whats up there now so you still gonna blindly lick his dick?

                        I know you're ahead.

                        haha

                        The orioles is the only one...and it's changed NOT in his favor. Those SBRodds do change, just to let you know, it may not be every 10 seconds, but they do change, the Orioles is now at 152.

                        You don't have to be scared, your up after day 1. Why back out, he wasn't trying to cheat, you're just trying to back out.

                        And I won't blindly lick anyones dick.
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                        • thebayareabeast
                          SBR MVP
                          • 04-22-10
                          • 1475

                          #82
                          Ok fine he wants to play this way fine... from now on I will log into the site and also check sbr odds and give myself the more beneficial of the 2 like he is doing

                          If I didnt think Ice was a respected poster I would not have agreed to this contest...
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                          • 2daBank
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-26-09
                            • 88966

                            #83
                            its easy to see the time, just go to the line you want from 5dimes and click on the box with the line in it..you will get a log of every time the line changed for totals, ml, and rl .....he played it absolutely fair as every line he played was exactly that at the time of his post.......
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                            • thebayareabeast
                              SBR MVP
                              • 04-22-10
                              • 1475

                              #84
                              We clearly have a couple issues in this contest we need to address...

                              for example what is stopping someone from just posting the same exact plays as the other person when they pull ahead?

                              There have been no rules stated that prohibit that...

                              I dont think he would do it and obviously I wouldnt but its just an example of how this contest is very flawed
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                              • thebayareabeast
                                SBR MVP
                                • 04-22-10
                                • 1475

                                #85
                                Last night when he posted his Cubs and over bets he clearly stated he was utilizing the 5dimes website itself...

                                we need to clear this up
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                                • ngates815
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-01-09
                                  • 13845

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                  We clearly have a couple issues in this contest we need to address...

                                  for example what is stopping someone from just posting the same exact plays as the other person when they pull ahead?

                                  There have been no rules stated that prohibit that...

                                  I dont think he would do it and obviously I wouldnt but its just an example of how this contest is very flawed

                                  No issues at all it would seem to me...Say you're up, and he posts his picks first you could copy him...Say you're up and you post first, and he copies you, wouldn't benefit him at all. So theres not really a need for you two to copy each other, just wait til game time to post your plays. I doubt both of you will be on at that same exact time.

                                  And you're stating he's been getting the best of the odds listed from sbrodds and from 5 dimes, when he clearly stated last night, that he used 5dimes because SBRodds was messed up. He also noted that, so it shouldn't be a big problem.

                                  You seem to keep making excuses. He said you should both be using SBRodds, then 5dimes part of that, so you can verify line history. SO if anything he could quit, and it could be justified because you aren't following the rules.
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                                  • 2daBank
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-26-09
                                    • 88966

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                    Last night when he posted his Cubs and over bets he clearly stated he was utilizing the 5dimes website itself...

                                    we need to clear this up

                                    he probably was right then as im pretty sure he bet that game so odds are he was just in the site,but in all honesty the line should be the same from the odds page and the shop (unless SBR odds is having malfunctions), and when you picking so many games for a tourney,competition, or whatever, it a lot easier to have sbr odds right there.........if yo got issues with this thing that fine that between you and him but i been talking to ice for a year and i can say he one of the best guys on this site and there was no need to start trashing him over a misunderstanding.....gl to you both..
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                                    • ngates815
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 12-01-09
                                      • 13845

                                      #88
                                      Originally posted by iceminers26
                                      Night Game

                                      Cubs +1.5 (110) 1.10 to 1

                                      Phills/Cubs Over 7.5 +100 1 to 1

                                      (sbr odds is all messed up for this game, it doesn't have any lines, these are directly from 5dimes site)...if you are around Beast and you want to confirm these that's cool, just wanted to state that these are from 5D since they're not listed on SBR Odds.


                                      Did you read the whole thing. He explained himself as to why he used that. It would seem like the honorable thing to do. I doubt he was trying to "cheat"
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                                      • iceminers26
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 10-13-08
                                        • 15600

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                        He said last night that he was logging into the site and getting the lines off the website... so basically he is giving himself a choice of the better of the two at his discretion
                                        what's going on here, guess I will start with this post. All my plays to this point, with the exception of two (Cubs game), have been taken exactly off of SBR Odds using 5dimes as the book. The only reason these 2 plays in the Cubs game were taken directly from 5dimes was because SBR Odds was all messed up for this game and did not even have lines up for it.
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                                        • thebayareabeast
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-22-10
                                          • 1475

                                          #90
                                          You never said that the SBR Odds were messed up...
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                                          • iceminers26
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-13-08
                                            • 15600

                                            #91
                                            And I clearly stated this when I posted the plays.

                                            You send me a PM asking me if I am trying to cheat, are you serious. If you read my post instead of throwing around accusations, you might figure it out on your own.
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                                            • iceminers26
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-13-08
                                              • 15600

                                              #92
                                              Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                              Astros/Cubs under 8 is at -120 Brewers/Pirates over 9.5 is +105 DBags -1.5 is +165 A's -1.5 is +173 KC +1.5 is -140 Orioles is +154 Orioles +1.5 is -115
                                              are you matching my plays, what a joke
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                                              • shari91
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-23-10
                                                • 32661

                                                #93
                                                Beast, I can understand your concern as the contest is for $500 and there are a lot of dodgy posters on SBR but Icer is definitely not one of them.

                                                The odds he posted are direct from SBR and are the correct 5Dimes odds listed at the time of his posting. The one time he veered from that (the Cubs game) he explained to you why and his explanation is more than valid. As for your concern that he will just copy your plays, well you both would increase your units if the plays won so you would always remain ahead. There is no incentive for him to do so.

                                                Best of luck in this competition if you choose to continue with it but honestly, calling Icer out for any perceived dishonesty is just setting yourself up for a lot of grief.
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                                                • shari91
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 02-23-10
                                                  • 32661

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                                  You never said that the SBR Odds were messed up...
                                                  Look at Ngates post directly above the one of yours I just quoted. Icer did indeed explain why he was taking lines directly from 5Dimes. You just need to read a little more closely.
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                                                  • iceminers26
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 10-13-08
                                                    • 15600

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                    Night Game Cubs +1.5 (110) 1.10 to 1 Phills/Cubs Over 7.5 +100 1 to 1 (sbr odds is all messed up for this game, it doesn't have any lines, these are directly from 5dimes site)...if you are around Beast and you want to confirm these that's cool, just wanted to state that these are from 5D since they're not listed on SBR Odds.
                                                    oh really Beast, what's the above post
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                                                    • thebayareabeast
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-22-10
                                                      • 1475

                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                      are you matching my plays, what a joke
                                                      No, I posted my plays first

                                                      matching your plays??? what are you talking about???
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                                                      • iceminers26
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-13-08
                                                        • 15600

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                                        Ice? These lines are way off, I am checking 5dimes right now wtf man
                                                        just check the line history on SBR Odds, reason we are using it so we can verify these things, and match them with my post time and the lines at that time, then tell me I am off.
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                                                        • thebayareabeast
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-22-10
                                                          • 1475

                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                          oh really Beast, what's the above post
                                                          I was posting your plays with the odds as the actual 5dimes website was giving me...

                                                          Ok Ice lets clear this up right now... we are both permanently using the SBR ODDS?
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                                                          • iceminers26
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 10-13-08
                                                            • 15600

                                                            #99
                                                            You say that I am cheating and throw around all these acquistions, when in reality I am following the rules to a T by taking my plays with the lines from SBR Odds using 5dimes.
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                                                            • ngates815
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 12-01-09
                                                              • 13845

                                                              #100
                                                              It's clear bayarea, doesn't know how to "babysit" or read thru a thread...Every allegation he has towards ICER is ridiculous.

                                                              He states that Icer never mentioned SBRodds was messed up, yet 2 posts above that I posted Icers post CLEARLY stating that SBRodds was messed up, and that if Beast was on, he wanted to make sure it was ok. In Which case I'm sure if Beast said NO, Icer would of been ok with that and moved on since it was the first day.

                                                              He's trying to make every excuse in the book to try and dis-credit ICER, but it's obvious that he's trying to back out. Possibly because he doesn't have 500 bucks to his name.


                                                              ICER my question for you, did you both happen to paypal or whatever 500 each to someone trusworthy from this site? if not I'm guaranteeing someone gets stiffed here.
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                                                              • thebayareabeast
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-22-10
                                                                • 1475

                                                                #101
                                                                Ok I missed the part about Ice using the book last night because the "SBR ODDS" were malfunctioning... thats what led to this

                                                                Your post is fine, we can use those lines and from now on I will use nothing but SBR ODDS as well

                                                                no more logging into the site for me

                                                                Who knows how much my record is off from yesterday but oh well i will just eat it
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                                                                • iceminers26
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-13-08
                                                                  • 15600

                                                                  #102
                                                                  sorry I had an 8 hour work day and wanted to eat and take a shower before the games start after placing my plays, that's why I wasn't around. You are fuckin pissing me off and it takes a lot to do.
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                                                                  • thebayareabeast
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 04-22-10
                                                                    • 1475

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                                    You say that I am cheating and throw around all these acquistions, when in reality I am following the rules to a T by taking my plays with the lines from SBR Odds using 5dimes.
                                                                    Ok I can admit when its possible I made a mistake.

                                                                    Ice is a respected poster, Im still new here, Im been stiffed before also and Im only human.

                                                                    I missed the part about Ice using the book lines because the SBR ODDS were off, my mistake.

                                                                    I apologize to ICE.
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                                                                    • iceminers26
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-13-08
                                                                      • 15600

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by thebayareabeast
                                                                      Ok I missed the part about Ice using the book last night because the "SBR ODDS" were malfunctioning... thats what led to this Your post is fine, we can use those lines and from now on I will use nothing but SBR ODDS as well no more logging into the site for me Who knows how much my record is off from yesterday but oh well i will just eat it
                                                                      using only 5dimes as the book
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                                                                      • thebayareabeast
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 04-22-10
                                                                        • 1475

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by iceminers26
                                                                        sorry I had an 8 hour work day and wanted to eat and take a shower before the games start after placing my plays, that's why I wasn't around. You are fuckin pissing me off and it takes a lot to do.
                                                                        I can understand that, I am willing to admit it appears as though I made a mistake.

                                                                        My bad, I shouldn't have accused you without reading that post, (still don't know how I missed it )

                                                                        In any case my bad man
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