Sports database design

[MidnightToker]

That's called scraping. There are tons of web sites, articles, books, etc. on how to do it. Do a google search for web scraping, pick a resource that uses a language you're familiar with, and go to town. It's not that hard if you know how to program.

For example:
Webbots, Spiders and Screen Scrapers
Web-Scraping in R
How to Scrape Web Pages with Node.js and jQuery
Screen Scraping with WWW::Mechanize
Web Scraping with Python and BeautifulSoup

[Maverick22]

Anyone here knows how to extract the data you want directly from a website and input into your database?

I know how to do it. I can help you get started if need be.

[hutennis]

Thanks People

Going to see some programmers tommorrow morning. Time to start building this machine.

Thanks again for all the advise.

I have a question. Most likely it is a stupid one. but none the less...

What do you think are the chances that someone somewhere already done exactly what you are trying to do?

[Maverick22]

lol, Extraordinarily high

[hutennis]

lol, Extraordinarily high

If that is the case, what would be a rational behind expectation to be paid, if getting paid is the goal, for "inventing a bicycle"?

[Maverick22]

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Inventing a bicycle is not analogous to inventing a wheel. Mostly due to the fact a bicycle does not inherit from a wheel. It leverages a wheel or a set of wheel.

I don't think I quite get your point.

[MidnightToker]

If that is the case, what would be a rational behind expectation to be paid, if getting paid is the goal, for "inventing a bicycle"?

Because the fact that someone invented a bicycle in no way means that anyone is going to give you the physical implementation for free, or that you magically have the tools, materials and knowledge to build one yourself.

[hutennis]

You are comparing apples to oranges.

Inventing a bicycle is not analogous to inventing a wheel. Mostly due to the fact a bicycle does not inherit from a wheel. It leverages a wheel or a set of wheel.

I don't think I quite get your point.

OK. I'll try to rephrase it.

If whatever OP is trying to do has an extraordinarily high chance of already been done then
what would be a rational behind expectation to get paid for discovering something that has already been discovered?

[Maverick22]

OK. I'll try to rephrase it.

If whatever OP is trying to do has an extraordinarily high chance of already been done then
what would be a rational behind expectation to get paid for discovering something that has already been discovered?

Run on sentence much?

Even your rephrasing makes no sense, and largely in part because you hardly rephrased it. I still don't understand your point.

I highly doubt the OP (no offense) is about to discover the golden key to sports database design. Anything he comes up with has been done before.

That doesn't mean he will not make money from it. The concept of making money from it has little to do with whatever is attempting to reinvent a currently existing construct.

I will ask again what your point is

[hutennis]

Run on sentence much?

That doesn't mean he will not make money from it. The concept of making money from it has little to do with whatever is attempting to reinvent a currently existing construct.

I will ask again what your point is

This is my question.
The data OP wants to analyse is widely available.
The methods to analyse it are well known and widely used. All relevant conclusions are already drawn and acted upon.
Even if OP will bring himself up to date and will be able to adapt those new for him but well known to many others methods,
what new information is he hopping to find?
And if no new information can he add to a price discovery process, what would be a rational for expectation to make money without
producing anything that he can exchange for the money?

Is not it concept of making money is all about? You have to have something people would want to pay for.
I, personally, know nobody who would want to pay for old information.

[Maverick22]

It is not the concept of 'being in possession old information'. It is the concept of 'How do you use this old information?'.

We are all using the same keyboards... assuming you are in the US. But I can plenty of things with this keyboard that can not, the reverse is also true.

Just because we all might use the same tools, does not mean we are not capable of creating two different products of varying qualities and craftmanship with these tools.

Does that answer your question?

[hutennis]

Just because we all might use the same tools, does not mean we are not capable of creating two different products of varying qualities and craftmanship with these tools.

Does that answer your question?

I understand your answer, but it raises another question.

What are the chances that someone who does not know the first thing about tools need to create a product will be able to compete and outperform qualities and craftmanship those who can use these tools in their sleep?

How much closer can he get to outperforming even after he learns the first, second or third thing about those tools?

[Maverick22]

Are you facing some insecurities over there? lol.

If someone wants to be the best at what they do, they make it happen. Not ask "What If I Am Not Good Enough".

All your questions sound like interview questions. Should I be wearing a shirt and tie?

[hutennis]

Are you facing some insecurities over there? lol.

If someone wants to be the best at what they do, they make it happen. Not ask "What If I Am Not Good Enough".

All your questions sound like interview questions. Should I be wearing a shirt and tie?

My questions simply constitute a rational approach.

If i have to spend a lot of time and effort on something and stand to lose if I'm wrong and win if I'm right,
would not it be reasonable and rational to determine my actual chances and expected value of my efforts?

If someone wants to be the best at what they do, they make it happen. Not ask "What If I Am Not Good Enough".

This does sound like Tony Robinson motivational speech from his infomercials.

When you stand to lose a lot if you are not good enough, asking "What are my chances not to be good enough?" is highly advisable and not asking it is suicidal.

[uva3021]

Forgive me for self-promoting, but here's an example

http://sportsobjective.com/wordpress/?p=4364

I basically do this for all sports, and link it with multiple sportsbooks