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  • m3vr6
    SBR High Roller
    • 09-16-07
    • 233

    #1
    Siding/Middling -diverted-
    Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.


    you mean Sided the bet? Middles is when you when both wagers.. Over 2 and Under 2.5 and the total landed on 2 you sided the bet and Middle is when you give them the "DOUBLE PENETRATION" eg. NFL playing -6.5 and +7.5 and the game landed on a 7
  • Ganchrow
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-28-05
    • 5011

    #2
    Originally posted by m3vr6
    http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-diverted.html

    you mean Sided the bet? Middles is when you when both wagers.. Over 2 and Under 2.5 and the total landed on 2 you sided the bet and Middle is when you give them the "DOUBLE PENETRATION" eg. NFL playing -6.5 and +7.5 and the game landed on a 7
    I've always used the term "middle" to describe both. In this case it would be a "half-point middle".

    The fact is that even if you insist on calling it "siding" it's nevertheless a weak form of you middling, and the mathematics of the two are equivalent for the purposes of the original post.

    Anyway, whatever you choose to call it, I think the point is clear.
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    • m3vr6
      SBR High Roller
      • 09-16-07
      • 233

      #3
      for general term yes, but if you tell someone you middled a game. it wouldn't be that general, if you playing for $10k per side. The term can be a difference of winning $10k or $20k
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      • Ganchrow
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 08-28-05
        • 5011

        #4
        Originally posted by m3vr6
        for general term yes, but if you tell someone you middled a game. it wouldn't be that general, if you playing for $10k per side. The term can be a difference of winning $10k or $20k
        Then I guess the trick is this: don't brag about your bets.
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        • m3vr6
          SBR High Roller
          • 09-16-07
          • 233

          #5
          if someone hits a $20k middle.. they have all the rights to bragg.
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          • Ganchrow
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 08-28-05
            • 5011

            #6
            Originally posted by m3vr6
            if someone hits a $20k middle.. they have all the rights to bragg.
            That's just where we'll have to differ.

            Personally, I think players should just shut up, do their thing, and not worry so much about crowing to to the world about how much money they've made.
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            • betplom
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 09-20-06
              • 13444

              #7
              Originally posted by m3vr6
              if someone hits a $20k middle.. they have all the rights to bragg.
              Around here a certain someone has been known brag after a large loss.
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              • raiders72002
                SBR MVP
                • 03-06-07
                • 3368

                #8
                All depends on who you are posting with on whether you brag or not. Here, I'm an attention whore when I win. Elsewhere, I keep my mouth shut.
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                • m3vr6
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 09-16-07
                  • 233

                  #9
                  i am sure you guys have hit a big 'side/middle' in the past.. so you can't blame the person from sharing it .
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                  • raiders72002
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-06-07
                    • 3368

                    #10
                    Looks like I'm missing something here. What middle or side did you hit?
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                    • Ganchrow
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-28-05
                      • 5011

                      #11
                      Originally posted by raiders72002
                      Looks like I'm missing something here. What middle or side did you hit?
                      m3vr6 is saying that it's important to distinguish between siding and middling so that if you win $20,000 on a middle you can brag about it without having to worry that other people might think you only made $10,000.
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                      • Thremp
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-23-07
                        • 2067

                        #12
                        But how much did you lose?
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                        • HedgeHog
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 09-11-07
                          • 10128

                          #13
                          Originally posted by m3vr6
                          http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...-diverted.html

                          you mean Sided the bet? Middles is when you when both wagers.. Over 2 and Under 2.5 and the total landed on 2 you sided the bet and Middle is when you give them the "DOUBLE PENETRATION" eg. NFL playing -6.5 and +7.5 and the game landed on a 7
                          How often has anyone hit both sides of a soccer game--side or total.? You're splitting hairs, when you know exactly what the poster is talking about.

                          Thanks for explaining the proper usage of middling to me (and Ganch). Now we all know.
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                          • m3vr6
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 09-16-07
                            • 233

                            #14
                            usually when people go for sides/middles they go large. so when someone say 'i middled a game' i always assumed they won both sides. and when i ask them what was the line,. said 3 and 3.5pts in NFL, with this number you can only side and not middled.
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                            • Thremp
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-23-07
                              • 2067

                              #15
                              I personally use side and middle to indicate the difference.. This does create an interesting circumstance where you have a double side (u180/o179), or a middle/side (o180/u181.5) or some combination.

                              It makes it somewhat clearer, but its really immaterial since you need to lines and prices to explain what you got the side on. The part about "right to bragg" is really horrible and makes like no sense.
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                              • HedgeHog
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-11-07
                                • 10128

                                #16
                                M3:

                                Still semantics. If I get a win and a push on a middle, I'll say I hit a partial middle and my betting buds will get the general idea. If I say I "sided", they would have no idea what I meant. And if I used your term of "double penetration", they would think I was watching a porno. Let's keep it simple; we're not all as smart as you.
                                Last edited by HedgeHog; 10-28-07, 07:10 PM.
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                                • m3vr6
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 09-16-07
                                  • 233

                                  #17
                                  books get really pissed off when you beat them to the number especially if they know you're goin for middles.
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                                  • Ganchrow
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 08-28-05
                                    • 5011

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Thremp
                                    I personally use side and middle to indicate the difference.. This does create an interesting circumstance where you have a double side (u180/o179), or a middle/side (o180/u181.5) or some combination.
                                    I'll typically refer to a 2 or a 1½ or a ½ point middle, and then just as HedgeHog, I might say I pushed and won on a middle.

                                    I consider a middle the general case and a side a special case.
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                                    • HedgeHog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 10128

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by m3vr6
                                      books get really pissed off when you beat them to the number especially if they know you're goin for middles.
                                      Betmania will void your second bet on opposing sides, but the bigger Books will take their chances--figuring they'll make the vig. Most middlers will bet at different outlets, so the Books that do care are never the wiser to what you're doing.
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                                      • Thremp
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-23-07
                                        • 2067

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Ganchrow
                                        I'll typically refer to a 2 or a 1½ or a ½ point middle, and then just as HedgeHog, I might say I pushed and won on a middle.

                                        I consider a middle the general case and a side a special case.
                                        Word. This makes sense to me. I like the last part.
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                                        • bigboydan
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-10-05
                                          • 55420

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                          Betmania will void your second bet on opposing sides
                                          Sportbet and BetOnline won't allow it either.
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