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  • Miz
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 08-30-09
    • 695

    #71
    Originally posted by Kaps
    sia kicked me out .....fukkkers
    Me too and confiscated part of my account balance. Good luck ever cashing out.
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    • Justin7
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 07-31-06
      • 8577

      #72
      Originally posted by Miz
      Me too and confiscated part of my account balance. Good luck ever cashing out.
      Please do tell. I've had a lot of luck working with SIA. If they mugged you unfairly, we should deal with this.
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      • Miz
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 08-30-09
        • 695

        #73
        they considered my account and another players account part of the "same computer environment". It wasn't a lot of money but I was a winning player there, long term. I learned that "the same computer environment" could be applied in a broad fashion to almost any situation. I should have known that those lines were too good to be true.
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        • Miz
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 08-30-09
          • 695

          #74
          I had a friend who ended up opening an account with them about 6 months ago (mine was open for about 3 years). I used them mostly for NFL and CFB dogs, so my account was dormant in the football offseason. My friend ended up having some dispute with them over some funds. The details are still sketchy. In any event, they had both of our ID's, addresses, copies of credit cards etc. It was pretty obvious we weren't trying to pull a fast one together, and that we are two separate individuals... especially considering the duration of my account being open. They considered the accounts linked, and that was pretty much the end of it. So the lesson here is that you shouldn't let your buddy bet on his account at your IP address or vice versa. It says it buried in the rules... so technically I should have been more aware of this. Had I known they would do this, I would've taken more steps to make sure I didn't bet at any IP address outside of my own.

          Sports Interaction reserves the right to close all related accounts and retain any account balances without notice.... Other players from the same household or computer environment will become liable for any funds that have been returned, and the balance of their accounts will reflect this.
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          • Miz
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 08-30-09
            • 695

            #75
            Last post on this...

            They initially froze just under 1k and told me i couldn't cash anything out until the other player's account was no longer associated with a dispute. I convinced them to at least let me bet the remainder of my balance minus the amount in dispute at the other player's account. Fortunately I was able to hedge that amount over to my matchbook account via moneyline bets on large favs at match, while betting the dog at SIA. I was lucky, and the favs won (over about 3 bets), thus freeing up most of my balance over to my matchbook account. It was fortuitous. The rest of my balance they still have ~$250. It is a lesson learned.

            The lines can be sweet, but if you use that to your advantage, they will try to find a way to consider you in violation. If they can't find you in violation they will likely just pay you out and ban you.
            Last edited by Miz; 09-06-10, 12:13 AM.
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            • PRC
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 10-22-09
              • 576

              #76
              Sometimes sbr odds has a big delay (5 mins or so) on certain books, Tomato.
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              • Pokerjoe
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-17-09
                • 704

                #77
                Originally posted by Miz
                I had a friend ... So the lesson here is that you shouldn't let your buddy bet on his account at your IP address or vice versa.
                This is true of EVERY book, not just SIA. And with good reason.
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                • Miz
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 08-30-09
                  • 695

                  #78
                  Yep, friends. Most people on sports betting forums only have "internet friends" so it usually isn't a concern.

                  I haven't had problems with other books in the past in the same situation. I would let friends access the computer at my house and place their bets freely at my house. Wsex, bookmaker, and bodog never had a problem cashing me out.

                  I am not saying SIA wasn't working within their rules. But, let the buyer beware. If you use more than one IP address (common to any other account) for your bets, or if anyone else uses your IP address even once, linkage is established, and you will probably not get your money out. This includes hotels. So, if you're on business travel like I am quite a bit, you're at risk if anyone ever placed a bet at that hotel on that site. They told me that directly over the phone.

                  I don't normally take the time to post anything outside of technical betting content. Do what you please, use them, I don't care. I'd rather take a worse line at a place I know will pay, than build up phantom funds at a place that won't.
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                  • 20Four7
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 04-08-07
                    • 6703

                    #79
                    Originally posted by IrishTim
                    SIA is a great book to have in your arsenal if you can (a) get paid and (b) not get kicked out.
                    a) they are a lot better than they were, I do get paid out 5 figures

                    b) After they do a) they limit you then boot you......
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                    • MadTiger
                      SBR MVP
                      • 04-19-09
                      • 2724

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Miz
                      Fortunately I was able to hedge that amount over to my matchbook account via moneyline bets on large favs at match, while betting the dog at SIA.
                      I gave this the name

                      Bustout Transfer

                      a few years ago.
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                      • tat1980
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 11-28-09
                        • 636

                        #81
                        Originally posted by Tomato

                        9-1 playing on teams that had +EV at SIA vs Pinnnacle (5Dimes used for FCS).

                        You don't need to bet these teams at SIA.

                        EDIT - TOMATO screwed up FCS games. SIA had -6.5 on WILLIAM AND MARY while 5Dimes had -10. SIA had 3 on RICHMOND while 5dimes had -4. NEW HAMPSHIRE was not a bad line as 5Dimes had -2. Record doesn't change though.
                        Can someone explain to me why he bet UL Monroe, S. Illinois, Montana, or Stephen Austin I don't see the edge when betting -115 line. Thanks in advance for your time.
                        Last edited by SBR Jonelyn; 04-16-15, 02:20 PM. Reason: image does not exist
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                        • Peregrine Stoop
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 10-23-09
                          • 869

                          #82
                          isn't this old news by this point?
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                          • tat1980
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-28-09
                            • 636

                            #83
                            Originally posted by Peregrine Stoop
                            isn't this old news by this point?
                            You are correct but still wondering i'm not that smart when it comes to gambling to be honest.
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                            • goblue12
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-08-09
                              • 1316

                              #84
                              Most of the Covers recommended books have lines tilted towards square action and offer ample +EV wagers to Pinnacle's number.
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