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  • suicidekings
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-23-09
    • 9962

    #1
    The Look Ahead Effect Quantified - NBA
    http://www.statfox.com/statfoxnews/news~articleid~4907.htm

    I was browsing through some online articles and I stumbled on this one from StatFox. Apologies if this topic has been covered in depth in the past (I didn't find anything in my quick search). IMO, it's worth a read.

    Essentially, it discusses the validity of the revenge factor and teams looking ahead to future games, and the effect they have on actual ATS performance. The study was based on 3 years of NBA data from 2005-2008.

    The results, briefly summarized:

    Revenge Games:
    The Myth:
    Teams perform better in games with the opportunity to get revenge on teams that embarrassed them previously in the same season (winning by 15+ points).

    The Trends:
    - ATS Rate for teams in revenge games: 46.6%
    - ATS Rate for teams in revenge games on the road: 44.7%
    - ATS Rate for teams in revenge games on the road when the game right before it was also on the road: 40.3%

    Look Ahead Games:
    The Myth:
    Teams are often assumed to look ahead to upcoming big matchups, leading to lower performance in the game directly before that revenge game (Look Ahead Game).

    The Trends:
    - ATS Rate in Look Ahead Games for teams with winning records: 43.3%
    - ATS Rate in Look Ahead Games for teams with losing records: 48.3%
    - ATS Rate in Look Ahead Games preceding revenge games against divisional rivals: 41.1%
    - ATS Rate in Look Ahead Games preceding revenge games against non-divisional teams from the same conference: 51.9%
    - ATS Rate in Non-Conference games Look Ahead Games: 52.2%
    - ATS Rate in Look Ahead Games vs strong opponents: 44.5%
    - ATS Rate in Look Ahead Games vs weak opponents before a revenge game against a strong opponent: 37.8%
    - ATS Rate in Look Ahead Games on the road before revenge games at home: 35.6%
    - When a strong team faces two weak teams in a row, there is no effect on the ATS Rate, but the Over Rate in the first game rises to 56.9%
    - ATS Rate in games preceding a 3 day break for the team: 42.1%
    - ATS Rate in games preceding a 3 day break for a team when their next game is also at home: 38.1%

    Combining Factors (Limited Sample Sizes):
    - ATS Rate for strong teams against weak non-conference teams, preceding a game against a strong team: 40.4%
    - ATS Rate for strong teams against weak non-conference teams at home, preceding a game against a strong team on the road: 26.3%
    Last edited by suicidekings; 03-29-09, 11:22 PM.
  • suicidekings
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 03-23-09
    • 9962

    #2
    I've always felt that the notion of revenge games is horribly over-used, and the above findings indicates that the effect is not what people commonly believe. At the same time, the effect of teams looking ahead to big match-ups is shown to be a legitimate trend under certain circumstances.

    I haven't actually put the trends to the test yet, but either way, it's an interesting bit of information.
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    • Peep
      SBR MVP
      • 06-23-08
      • 2295

      #3
      Another thing about "revenge games" is that the team got beat by 15 + for a reason. Maybe they just don't matchup well with the team they want revenge against.
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      • sofos
        SBR High Roller
        • 04-28-07
        • 107

        #4
        Nice info, Suicide. Do you have sample sizes?
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        • suicidekings
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 03-23-09
          • 9962

          #5
          Sample sizes aren't given for all the stats, but for those that are, all but a couple of them are based on at least 125 games spanning the 3 seasons studied.
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          • suicidekings
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 03-23-09
            • 9962

            #6
            Peep: I totally agree. However, I still think the data has some value, particularly in showing trends towards poor ATS performance when playing a weak team before a strong one and when a team plays their last game before a few days break.

            i'll start comparing the trends to team-specific data from this season and see if anything pops up as notable.
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            • pico
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 04-05-07
              • 27321

              #7
              very nice thread. i always wondered about these myths cuz that is all my gambling buddies talks about.
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              • Wrecktangle
                SBR MVP
                • 03-01-09
                • 1524

                #8
                Old news actually, for both NBA and NFL. In the 80s, a number of folks had drilled out the "revenge/look ahead" factors. Actually, almost every "angle play" falls apart when examined.

                Shows the value of maintaining long dbs to check things out.
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                • Dark Horse
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 12-14-05
                  • 13764

                  #9
                  The definition of 'revenge' in this case is either unorthodox or ignorant. A loss by 15+ points in the long NBA season means nothing. It would be different if a favorite was upset, and met that dog again within a reasonable amount of time. Example: the Suns were upset last night in Sacramento, and play the Kings again within a week. The Suns were embarrassed, the game is still fresh in their minds. I could see 'revenge' there.

                  But you can't really isolate one motivational angle without weighing it against others. A DD favorite, as the Suns will probably be, almost by definition is under-motivated in the NBA.
                  Last edited by Dark Horse; 03-30-09, 09:29 AM.
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                  • joesdql
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 03-30-09
                    • 1

                    #10
                    To see how the revenge factor works in 5 point increments use the SDQL:
                    P:margin<0,-5,-10,-15,-20,-25,-30,-35,-40,-45


                    It doesn't look like there is much juice there.

                    cheers,

                    Joe
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                    • suicidekings
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-23-09
                      • 9962

                      #11
                      Neat website. I like it.

                      However it does show a poor SU performance in the revenge games, further taking away from the myth that teams will perform better in the game after losing to a rival.
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