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  • Otters27
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 07-14-07
    • 30750

    #2836
    Red Sox to beat Yankees tonight
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65433

      #2837
      Originally posted by Otters27
      Red Sox to beat Yankees tonight

      Yeah, I think so too.
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      • JAKEPEAVY21
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 03-11-11
        • 29259

        #2838
        I wanted to the the Bluejays in the playoffs...they are a dangerous team
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 65433

          #2839
          Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
          I wanted to the the Bluejays in the playoffs...they are a dangerous team
          Blue Jays are a fun watch.
          Boston/Blue Jays would be just as good as this one tonight.
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          • mr. leisure
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-29-08
            • 17507

            #2840
            Going with Cole and the Yanks .
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            • JMobile
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-21-10
              • 19074

              #2841
              Originally posted by mr. leisure
              Going with Cole and the Yanks .
              Same thing here. Yankees stronger team here
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              • Chi_archie
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-22-08
                • 63165

                #2842
                Originally posted by JMobile
                Same thing here. Yankees stronger team here

                good luck
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                • BigSpoon
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-04-10
                  • 4113

                  #2843
                  Regardless of who advances tonight I will be rooting for TB to beat them in the ALDS.
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                  • Stallion
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-21-10
                    • 3616

                    #2844
                    Go Red Sox!!! Yankees suck.
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                    • mr. leisure
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 01-29-08
                      • 17507

                      #2845
                      Originally posted by mr. leisure
                      Going with Cole and the Yanks .
                      Congrats Sox betters .
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                      • EmpireMaker
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 06-18-09
                        • 15578

                        #2846
                        The Rockies announced this afternoon they’ve agreed to a five-year contract extension with right-hander Antonio Senzatela. He’ll be guaranteed $50.5MM, and the deal also contains a club option for the 2027 season. Senzatela, a client of Republik Sports, was headed into his second trip through the arbitration process and had previously been under club control through the 2023 season.

                        It’s a rather surprising first move for newly minted general manager Bill Schmidt, who shed the “interim” tag from his title over the weekend. Senzatela has, at times, looked the part of a durable innings eater with a grounder-heavy approach, but he also possesses one of Major League Baseball’s lowest strikeout rates and was only in line for a modest raise on this season’s $3MM salary in arbitration. He’ll now earn $7.25MM in both 2022 and 2023 before taking home $12MM annually from 2024-26. The 2027 option is valued at $14MM.
                        Senzatela, 26, has been a durable rotation cog for Colorado over the past few seasons, although it’s worth noting that as recently as 2019, he was optioned to Triple-A and finished the season with an ERA just shy of 7.00. The right-hander was hammered for a 10.34 ERA from July through September that season but has enjoyed much more success since returning.
                        In 40 starts and 230 frames dating back to Opening Day 2020, he’s worked to a combined 4.11 earned run average — albeit with a 15% strikeout rate that ranks 188th of the 198 starting pitchers to have thrown at least 100 innings in that time. Senzatela ranks on the opposite end of the pendulum with the 15th-best walk rate in that time (5.1%) and the 22nd-ranked ground-ball percentage (51.1%).
                        Clearly, the Rockies are betting that he’ll be able to continue to suppress runs at a roughly average rate, leaning heavily on his blend of strong control and knack for inducing grounders. The challenge for Senzatela will lie partly in his ability to reduce the rate at which he allows hard contact. Of the 98 qualified pitchers in Major League Baseball this season, Senzatela’s 90.6 mph average opponents’ exit velocity was sixth-highest. That’s driven in part by a propensity to allow hard contact on the ground; his exit velocity on ground-balls is fourth-highest in MLB, whereas on balls in the air it’s a slightly less-alarming 27th.
                        Historically speaking, there’s ample precedent for pitchers in Senzatela’s service bracket — more than four years, less than five — signing a deal in this range. Kyle Hendricks’ 2019 extension with the Cubs, a five-year deal worth a guaranteed $55.5MM, is the most recent and closest parallel.
                        Notably, Hendricks also largely goes against today’s archetypical strikeout machine. He relies more on weak contact and pinpoint command to offset one of the game’s slowest fastballs, however, whereas Senzatela’s power sinker hovers in the 95 mph range but simply doesn’t miss many bats.
                        While both pitchers are grounder-heavy command artists, Hendricks had a vastly superior track record that included a prior third-place finish in NL Cy Young balloting. He’d already agreed to a $7.405MM salary for the forthcoming 2019 season, and Senzatela would’ve been hard-pressed to earn a second-time arbitration salary in that range. If Hendricks was indeed cited as a point of comparison in negotiations, it’s a strong deal for Senzatela’s camp to have come close to that same guarantee with a demonstrably worse statistical platform.
                        That said, while the price point may be a bit of a surprise, the Rockies surely place extra value on pitchers who’ve shown the ability — and the desire or willingness — to pitch effectively at Coors Field. Persuading any free-agent starting pitcher to sign on for multiple years pitching at altitude is a difficult endeavor. Beyond that, the Rockies have a fairly weak farm system, so trading for a controllable pitcher is easier said than done. Senzatela has had his share of success in recent seasons and, if he can continue on the same trajectory he showed from 2020-21, the deal will look reasonable enough.
                        From a payroll vantage point, the Rox can certainly afford the deal as structured. Colorado had just under $47MM in guaranteed salary on the 2022 books, and Senzatela’s salary bumps them to a bit more than $54MM. Charlie Blackmon will tack on another $21MM when he exercises a player option for the 2022 campaign, but even that subsequent $75-76MM is nowhere near the franchise-record $145MM payroll. Colorado is reported to be in agreement on an extension with first baseman C.J. Cron as well, but that shouldn’t drive up the bottom-line payroll in 2022 by too much.
                        Moreover, by the time Senzatela’s salary jumps to the $12MM range, the Blackmon contract will be off the books. The Rockies didn’t have a single guaranteed salary on the 2024 payroll prior to this long-term deal, though a $16MM club option on top pitcher German Marquez appears likely to be exercised, barring a significant injury or decline. An annual $12MM salary for an innings eater of Senzatela’s nature isn’t an egregious price to pay, although the downside with him is greater than with other arms who’ve signed in this price range — and it’s a bit surprising to see that price tag agreed upon so far in advance.
                        At the end of the day, the Senzatela extension serves as another reminder that the Rockies don’t view themselves nearly as far from contending as their 74-win season and -57 run differential would suggest. Colorado bucked conventional wisdom at the deadline when opting to hang onto Trevor Story, Jon Gray, Daniel Bard, Cron and other trade candidates, ultimately only moving Mychal Givens despite being buried in the division and lacking long-term control of those players.
                        Owner Dick Monfort has repeatedly stated in the past that he believes the current Rockies core is capable of contending, although that core will likely be turning over at least to an extent with the expected departure of Story. Competing in a division with the two best teams of 2021, plus a flawed-but-talented Padres squad in win-now mode would appear a daunting task for most teams, but the Rockies operate on an island and, in many ways, prefer their own unorthodox methodologies to more popular industry trends. The group of Marquez, Senzatela, Kyle Freeland, Gray (if he’s re-signed) and Austin Gomber certainly could form the nucleus of a competitive pitching staff, but the Rox are thin on depth behind that quintet and will need another year of uncanny health in the rotation just to repeat their 2021 output. Some additional roster augmentation will be needed this offseason.
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                        • Cross
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 04-15-11
                          • 5777

                          #2847
                          Eovaldi with another clutch performance.
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                          • jrgum3
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-21-17
                            • 7005

                            #2848
                            Originally posted by Cross
                            Eovaldi with another clutch performance.
                            Eovaldi is a big game pitcher. He had an okay regular season but he turned in another masterful postseason start. A lot of people questioned taking him out but it turned out to be the right button to push as the Red Sox bullpen held up this game.
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                            • Checkerboard
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 05-15-06
                              • 7799

                              #2849
                              Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                              I wanted to the the Bluejays in the playoffs...they are a dangerous team
                              Me too Jake, would've been a nice ride!
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                              • Otters27
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 07-14-07
                                • 30750

                                #2850
                                Originally posted by Cross
                                Eovaldi with another clutch performance.
                                Maybe Cole not as good without the sticky stuff
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                                • JAKEPEAVY21
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 03-11-11
                                  • 29259

                                  #2851
                                  Originally posted by Otters27
                                  Maybe Cole not as good without the sticky stuff
                                  Maybe? There is no question he is not as dominant without it. He's still pretty damn good though.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65433

                                    #2852
                                    Originally posted by jrgum3
                                    Eovaldi is a big game pitcher. He had an okay regular season but he turned in another masterful postseason start. A lot of people questioned taking him out but it turned out to be the right button to push as the Red Sox bullpen held up this game.
                                    He had better than an OK regular season.
                                    In some areas better than Cole.
                                    And the most important area, he beat Cole last night.
                                    Even though Nate's Red Sox beat Cole's NYY would be more accurate you get my point.
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                                    • JMobile
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 08-21-10
                                      • 19074

                                      #2853
                                      Will Cole go to the Angels next year?
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                                      • jrgum3
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 07-21-17
                                        • 7005

                                        #2854
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        He had better than an OK regular season.
                                        In some areas better than Cole.
                                        And the most important area, he beat Cole last night.
                                        Even though Nate's Red Sox beat Cole's NYY would be more accurate you get my point.
                                        All right I'll give you that he was better than just ok this season. It's just that he was outstanding last night even though Cora only let him go 5.1 innings and throw 71 pitches. I think if you look at his career he's established himself as a big game pitcher in the postseason where he's been even better than the regular season which was my point.
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65433

                                          #2855
                                          Originally posted by jrgum3
                                          All right I'll give you that he was better than just ok this season. It's just that he was outstanding last night even though Cora only let him go 5.1 innings and throw 71 pitches. I think if you look at his career he's established himself as a big game pitcher in the postseason where he's been even better than the regular season which was my point.
                                          Got cha

                                          I still love you dude.
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                                          • Stallion
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-21-10
                                            • 3616

                                            #2856
                                            Yankees lose!!!
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                                            • EmpireMaker
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-18-09
                                              • 15578

                                              #2857
                                              Veteran starting pitching will be a focus of the Padres’ offseason, and the team appears prepared to shop in the high end of the free agent market. Kevin Acee of The San Diego Union-Tribune writes that Marcus Stroman has been “mentioned” as part of the Padres’ “preliminary deliberations” about targets this winter.
                                              To be clear, it would be surprising if Stroman wasn’t at least on the radar for any pitching-needy team, and it is too early in the Padres’ offseason to tell if these in-house deliberations will result in concrete interest. That said, Stroman would be a logical upgrade for a San Diego team looking to bolster its pitching corps.
                                              On paper, the Padres have a full rotation of Yu Darvish, Blake Snell, Joe Musgrove, Chris Paddack, and (returning from Tommy John surgery) Mike Clevinger, plus Dinelson Lamet and Ryan Weathers as further depth and Adrian Morejon as a midseason reinforcement once he completes his own TJ rehab. However, given all the injury concerns and lack of overall performance from this group down the stretch, it isn’t surprising that San Diego’s front office is looking for reinforcements. Stroman has had his share of injuries, though for the most part has been a durable arm, tossing at least 179 innings in four of his last five seasons.
                                              After opting out of the 2020 season and then accepting the Mets’ qualifying offer for 2021, Stroman delivered one of the best campaigns of his seven-year career. Stroman posted a 3.02 ERA/3.95 SIERA over 179 IP with a 50.8% grounder rate and a 5.9% walk rate that was both well above league average and Stroman’s best walk rate since his 2014 rookie season. The right-hander’s 21.7% strikeout rate was a career best, if still a below average figure overall, though a very strong 31.6% chase rate is indication that Stroman left his share of batters guessing.
                                              Stroman turns 31 in May, but between his track record and his 2021 success, it seems quite likely that he’ll land at least a four-year contract this winter, and maybe as many as five years. (His market is also helped by the fact that he is ineligible for another QO.) Signing Stroman would represent yet another major contract on the Padres’ books, and between the pre-existing commitments and a big arbitration class, the Padres might not have a ton of room to operate underneath the next Competitive Balance Tax threshold.
                                              Both Cot’s Baseball Contracts and Roster Resource calculate that the Padres managed to stay under the $210MM luxury tax threshold in 2021, though the margin is close enough that we’ll have to wait for the official league accounting to be certain. Then again, Padres ownership has indicated a willingness to pay the tax under the right circumstances, and it is possible the current CBT system is overhauled in collective bargaining talks. The club could also explore moving some other salary to free up payroll and tax space, such as how the Padres has looked into trading the likes of Eric Hosmer and Wil Myers in recent years.
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                                              • Checkerboard
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-15-06
                                                • 7799

                                                #2858
                                                Bellinger walk starts a classic bottom of the 9th, 2 out rally, Dodgers winner!

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                                                • Cross
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 04-15-11
                                                  • 5777

                                                  #2859
                                                  See ya Cardinals, NL West and AL East set to dominate.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65433

                                                    #2860
                                                    Originally posted by Checkerboard
                                                    Bellinger walk starts a classic bottom of the 9th, 2 out rally, Dodgers winner!

                                                    Would love to see SF roll them
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                                                    • jrgum3
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 07-21-17
                                                      • 7005

                                                      #2861
                                                      Originally posted by stevenash
                                                      Would love to see SF roll them
                                                      Man I sure hope so. Even though I was rooting for the Cards to do the dirty work for us I kind of knew somehow it was going to come down to Giants vs Dodgers for the right to go to the NLCS. Just seemed inevitable that we hadn't seen the last of the Dodgers. I just hope my Giants are up for the challenge against the Dodgers because it will literally make me sick to my stomach if they lose to the Dodgers in the playoffs.
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                                                      • Otters27
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 07-14-07
                                                        • 30750

                                                        #2862
                                                        Originally posted by Cross
                                                        See ya Cardinals, NL West and AL East set to dominate.
                                                        Cardinals probably needed a series to continue their hot streak.

                                                        Give sherzerr some credit. Got out of that first inning
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                                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 03-11-11
                                                          • 29259

                                                          #2863
                                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                                          Would love to see SF roll them
                                                          Couldn't agree more.

                                                          Then I want to see that series winner get rolled by the next opponent.
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                                                          • stevenash
                                                            Moderator
                                                            • 01-17-11
                                                            • 65433

                                                            #2864
                                                            Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                            Couldn't agree more.

                                                            Then I want to see that series winner get rolled by the next opponent.
                                                            That would be the fancy Milwaukee Brewers
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                                                            • BigSpoon
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-04-10
                                                              • 4113

                                                              #2865
                                                              The trash cans chased Lance Lynn early tonight.
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                                                              • JMobile
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 08-21-10
                                                                • 19074

                                                                #2866
                                                                Astros stomping on the Sox. Crazy...
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                                                                • Stallion
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-21-10
                                                                  • 3616

                                                                  #2867
                                                                  Giants vs Tampa Bay world series!!!
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                                                                  • jrgum3
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 07-21-17
                                                                    • 7005

                                                                    #2868
                                                                    Originally posted by Stallion
                                                                    Giants vs Tampa Bay world series!!!
                                                                    That would be interesting for sure and not just because I'm a Giants fan. I think both those teams are similarly built and have the same approach to winning baseball games which is solid pitching, good defense and timely hitting.
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                                                                    • stevenash
                                                                      Moderator
                                                                      • 01-17-11
                                                                      • 65433

                                                                      #2869
                                                                      Originally posted by Stallion
                                                                      Giants vs Tampa Bay world series!!!
                                                                      I would enjoy that, here's who would not enjoy that.
                                                                      The empty suited MLB muckity-mucks in their Park Ave. offices.

                                                                      If it's SF/TB and if you're not a fan of the game, a Giants fan or Rays fan everyone with a TV on the same time the World Series in on will be saying this " where's the remote, what else is on"?
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                                                                      • Cross
                                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                        • 04-15-11
                                                                        • 5777

                                                                        #2870
                                                                        Just gotta find a way to speed up these games.
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